Shota Imanaga a Free Agent

[Ronnie Dobbs]

Apparently,, the Cubs had a team option for the 5th year of his contract. They declined it, which triggered a player option for this year, which he declined. So now he's a free agent. The team would have paid $20 million this year and next, and then $17 million in the 5th year of his contract.

Pretty weird. I mean, I know that the 5th year would cover his age 32-34 years and that his performance did slip from his year to last year. I'm guessing that the Cubs are betting that the league has adjusted to him and that it might get worse the next three years, because it wouldn't be a huge contract, but it would look a lot worse if he topped out as basically league average or worse.

Will be interesting to see what kind of contract he'll get this offseason.

[Ozziesfan41]

So that’s who the dodgers new starter will be

[WLTFE]

My thoughts exactly

[ramfandan]

Apparently,, the Cubs had a team option for the 5th year of his contract. They declined it, which triggered a player option for this year, which he declined. So now he's a free agent. The team would have paid $20 million this year and next, and then $17 million in the 5th year of his contract.

Pretty weird. I mean, I know that the 5th year would cover his age 32-34 years and that his performance did slip from his year to last year. I'm guessing that the Cubs are betting that the league has adjusted to him and that it might get worse the next three years, because it wouldn't be a huge contract, but it would look a lot worse if he topped out as basically league average or worse.

Will be interesting to see what kind of contract he'll get this offseason.

I read on Spotrac https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/player/_/id ... ta-imanaga contract details that if Cubs exercised either club option that Imanaga then a No Trade Clause would go into effect on his remaining deal. Wondering if that factored in the Cubs decision as then if the Cubs didn't like his performance in next year or two , they would be handcuffed in attempting to trade him . Just a thought

[rockondlouie]

He was my target all along when people were being delusional thinking we'd go after Yamamoto.

But at his age (32) he just doesn't fit the "plan".

[Ronnie Dobbs]

He was my target all along when people were being delusional thinking we'd go after Yamamoto.

But at his age (32) he just doesn't fit the "plan".

I liked him too. I thought he wouldn't get the size of a deal that he did, but it did have this option, so it could have been only really a two year deal. If the Cardinals did something like that and still we're not good the last two years, they could have done the same thing and still rebuild this year. I think it would have turned out pretty good for the Cardinals either way. Although I guess he could have sucked, they decline, but he picks it up.

Now, though, I wouldn't do it. Especially since he's 33 and looking for more than 3 years 57 million. And I am surprised the Cubs did this, but I'm not saying it's a bad move. I guess it also depends on what they do the rest of the offseason.

[rockondlouie]

He was my target all along when people were being delusional thinking we'd go after Yamamoto.

But at his age (32) he just doesn't fit the "plan".

I liked him too. I thought he wouldn't get the size of a deal that he did, but it did have this option, so it could have been only really a two year deal. If the Cardinals did something like that and still we're not good the last two years, they could have done the same thing and still rebuild this year. I think it would have turned out pretty good for the Cardinals either way. Although I guess he could have sucked, they decline, but he picks it up.

Now, though, I wouldn't do it. Especially since he's 33 and looking for more than 3 years 57 million. And I am surprised the Cubs did this, but I'm not saying it's a bad move. I guess it also depends on what they do the rest of the offseason.

Big miss by BDWJr/Mo ronnie, I remember starting multi threads pounding the table for them to get him.

[hugeCardfan]

He was my target all along when people were being delusional thinking we'd go after Yamamoto.

But at his age (32) he just doesn't fit the "plan".

I liked him too. I thought he wouldn't get the size of a deal that he did, but it did have this option, so it could have been only really a two year deal. If the Cardinals did something like that and still we're not good the last two years, they could have done the same thing and still rebuild this year. I think it would have turned out pretty good for the Cardinals either way. Although I guess he could have sucked, they decline, but he picks it up.

Now, though, I wouldn't do it. Especially since he's 33 and looking for more than 3 years 57 million. And I am surprised the Cubs did this, but I'm not saying it's a bad move. I guess it also depends on what they do the rest of the offseason.

Big miss by BDWJr/Mo ronnie, I remember starting multi threads pounding the table for them to get him.

BDW would have done it with your money...rock.

[rockondlouie]

He was my target all along when people were being delusional thinking we'd go after Yamamoto.

But at his age (32) he just doesn't fit the "plan".

I liked him too. I thought he wouldn't get the size of a deal that he did, but it did have this option, so it could have been only really a two year deal. If the Cardinals did something like that and still we're not good the last two years, they could have done the same thing and still rebuild this year. I think it would have turned out pretty good for the Cardinals either way. Although I guess he could have sucked, they decline, but he picks it up.

Now, though, I wouldn't do it. Especially since he's 33 and looking for more than 3 years 57 million. And I am surprised the Cubs did this, but I'm not saying it's a bad move. I guess it also depends on what they do the rest of the offseason.

Big miss by BDWJr/Mo ronnie, I remember starting multi threads pounding the table for them to get him.

BDW would have done it with your money...rock.

[ecleme22]

He was my target all along when people were being delusional thinking we'd go after Yamamoto.

But at his age (32) he just doesn't fit the "plan".

I liked him too. I thought he wouldn't get the size of a deal that he did, but it did have this option, so it could have been only really a two year deal. If the Cardinals did something like that and still we're not good the last two years, they could have done the same thing and still rebuild this year. I think it would have turned out pretty good for the Cardinals either way. Although I guess he could have sucked, they decline, but he picks it up.

Now, though, I wouldn't do it. Especially since he's 33 and looking for more than 3 years 57 million. And I am surprised the Cubs did this, but I'm not saying it's a bad move. I guess it also depends on what they do the rest of the offseason.

What we are seeing is a confident front office. Adding talent to a roster sometimes starts with removing talent, saving money, then going after something more ambitious and longer term. Maybe even tackling other roster areas.

Numerous CTers cannot understand why in the world Bloom would deal Donovan, Gray, etc. “aren’t we supposed to add talent!?”

But they can’t see the forest through the trees…

[Bad Lieutenant]

I think a Lefty w/his track record is worth a shot, only 33.

[ScotchMIrish]

Hamstring injury. When he came back his era was over 5 for the rest of the season.

[2ninr]

He was my target all along when people were being delusional thinking we'd go after Yamamoto.

But at hisees age (32) he just doesn't fit the "plan".

I liked him too. I thought he wouldn't get the size of a deal that he did, but it did have this option, so it could have been only really a two year deal. If the Cardinals did something like that and still we're not good the last two years, they could have done the same thing and still rebuild this year. I think it would have turned out pretty good for the Cardinals either way. Although I guess he could have sucked, they decline, but he picks it up.

Now, though, I wouldn't do it. Especially since he's 33 and looking for more than 3 years 57 million. And I am surprised the Cubs did this, but I'm not saying it's a bad move. I guess it also depends on what they do the rest of the offseason.

What we are seeing is a confident front office. Adding talent to a roster sometimes starts with removing talent, saving money, then going after something more ambitious and longer term. Maybe even tackling other roster areas.

Numerous CTers cannot understand why in the world Bloom would deal Donovan, Gray, etc. “aren’t we supposed to add talent!?”

But they can’t see the forest through the trees…

Exactly. We need talent. But it needs to be better talent. Or what's the point?

[Ronnie Dobbs]

What we are seeing is a confident front office. Adding talent to a roster sometimes starts with removing talent, saving money, then going after something more ambitious and longer term. Maybe even tackling other roster areas.

Numerous CTers cannot understand why in the world Bloom would deal Donovan, Gray, etc. “aren’t we supposed to add talent!?”

But they can’t see the forest through the trees…

I think this is a great take. Sometimes you gotta make decisions that some people might not expect and/or like. And if you sense that a guy may be on the decline, or like you said, maybe allocate your money elsewhere, sometimes you gotta cut bait.

We’ll see how it goes.

[Ozziesfan41]

Cubs are a dumb organization. They traded high level prospects for Tucker and now they are going to lose him for just a QO. Now letting Imanaga go for nothing

[Carp4Cy]

He was my target all along when people were being delusional thinking we'd go after Yamamoto.

But at his age (32) he just doesn't fit the "plan".

He’s younger than Gray. And if he’s good, he should keep pitching at a high level for a lot more years. 32 is irrelevant for a quality pitcher.