Ruh Roh....Ohtani beaten by Toronto? Look like Toronto came to play.

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Ruh Roh....Ohtani beaten by Toronto? Look like Toronto came to play.

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Ohtani is human after all. Toronto looks like they're not believing the hype. What I've learned in the playoffs so far? How important a very good bullpen can be. Very interesting game tomorrow. The Dodgers seldom have their backs to the wall, but tomorrow is almost a must win.
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CCard wrote: 28 Oct 2025 22:17 pm Ohtani is human after all. Toronto looks like they're not believing the hype. What I've learned in the playoffs so far? How important a very good bullpen can be. Very interesting game tomorrow. The Dodgers seldom have their backs to the wall, but tomorrow is almost a must win.
do you think Toronto has a 'very good bullpen' - it is actually their weakest link
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CCard wrote: 28 Oct 2025 22:17 pm Ohtani is human after all. Toronto looks like they're not believing the hype. What I've learned in the playoffs so far? How important a very good bullpen can be. Very interesting game tomorrow. The Dodgers seldom have their backs to the wall, but tomorrow is almost a must win.
Ohtani wasn't just human.
He was bad.
6 innings, 4 earned runs.
0-3, 2 K's.
That's baseball.
Great one night.
Doghouse the next.
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Melville wrote: 28 Oct 2025 22:23 pm
CCard wrote: 28 Oct 2025 22:17 pm Ohtani is human after all. Toronto looks like they're not believing the hype. What I've learned in the playoffs so far? How important a very good bullpen can be. Very interesting game tomorrow. The Dodgers seldom have their backs to the wall, but tomorrow is almost a must win.
Ohtani wasn't just human.
He was bad.
6 innings, 4 earned runs.
0-3, 2 K's.
That's baseball.
Great one night.
Doghouse the next.
This is true he the G.O.A.T. Last night tonight he was just the goat
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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 28 Oct 2025 22:25 pm
Melville wrote: 28 Oct 2025 22:23 pm
CCard wrote: 28 Oct 2025 22:17 pm Ohtani is human after all. Toronto looks like they're not believing the hype. What I've learned in the playoffs so far? How important a very good bullpen can be. Very interesting game tomorrow. The Dodgers seldom have their backs to the wall, but tomorrow is almost a must win.
Ohtani wasn't just human.
He was bad.
6 innings, 4 earned runs.
0-3, 2 K's.
That's baseball.
Great one night.
Doghouse the next.
This is true he the G.O.A.T. Last night tonight he was just the goat
The entire Dodger offense stunk again. All those names, and not much production. Betts managed a measly single after it was 6-1.
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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 28 Oct 2025 22:25 pm
Melville wrote: 28 Oct 2025 22:23 pm
CCard wrote: 28 Oct 2025 22:17 pm Ohtani is human after all. Toronto looks like they're not believing the hype. What I've learned in the playoffs so far? How important a very good bullpen can be. Very interesting game tomorrow. The Dodgers seldom have their backs to the wall, but tomorrow is almost a must win.
Ohtani wasn't just human.
He was bad.
6 innings, 4 earned runs.
0-3, 2 K's.
That's baseball.
Great one night.
Doghouse the next.
This is true he the G.O.A.T. Last night tonight he was just the goat
Nicely done!
I appreciate a well-turned phrase.
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Melville wrote: 28 Oct 2025 22:23 pm
CCard wrote: 28 Oct 2025 22:17 pm Ohtani is human after all. Toronto looks like they're not believing the hype. What I've learned in the playoffs so far? How important a very good bullpen can be. Very interesting game tomorrow. The Dodgers seldom have their backs to the wall, but tomorrow is almost a must win.
Ohtani wasn't just human.
He was bad.
6 innings, 4 earned runs.
0-3, 2 K's.
That's baseball.
Great one night.
Doghouse the next.
Simplistic way to see it.
When he left the game he had given up 2 earned runs. The bullpen screwed him.
He was good.
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dugoutrex wrote: 28 Oct 2025 22:19 pm
CCard wrote: 28 Oct 2025 22:17 pm Ohtani is human after all. Toronto looks like they're not believing the hype. What I've learned in the playoffs so far? How important a very good bullpen can be. Very interesting game tomorrow. The Dodgers seldom have their backs to the wall, but tomorrow is almost a must win.
do you think Toronto has a 'very good bullpen' - it is actually their weakest link
Merely commenting that they are all throwing high 90's gas. When I looked up their pitching I was surprised to see their rankings.
Toronto...ERA - 19th
WHIP - 16th
BAA - 14th
QS - 14th

That doesn't really scream dominant to me. They apparently are a team built quite literally on offense.

Toronto...Runs - 4th
On Base - 1st
Batting Avg - 1st
Slug - 7th

I didn't realize they were that good offensively.
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Melville wrote: 28 Oct 2025 22:23 pm
CCard wrote: 28 Oct 2025 22:17 pm Ohtani is human after all. Toronto looks like they're not believing the hype. What I've learned in the playoffs so far? How important a very good bullpen can be. Very interesting game tomorrow. The Dodgers seldom have their backs to the wall, but tomorrow is almost a must win.
Ohtani wasn't just human.
He was bad.
6 innings, 4 earned runs.
0-3, 2 K's.
That's baseball.
Great one night.
Doghouse the next.
I'd take him on the Cards though. LOL
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Blue Jays now face Snell and Yamamoto back to back. Gonna be tough, but at least they will be going back to Toronto for Friday's game.
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Swuhgen wrote: 29 Oct 2025 07:42 am
Melville wrote: 28 Oct 2025 22:23 pm
CCard wrote: 28 Oct 2025 22:17 pm Ohtani is human after all. Toronto looks like they're not believing the hype. What I've learned in the playoffs so far? How important a very good bullpen can be. Very interesting game tomorrow. The Dodgers seldom have their backs to the wall, but tomorrow is almost a must win.
Ohtani wasn't just human.
He was bad.
6 innings, 4 earned runs.
0-3, 2 K's.
That's baseball.
Great one night.
Doghouse the next.
Simplistic way to see it.
When he left the game he had given up 2 earned runs. The bullpen screwed him.
He was good.
He pitched 6 and gave up 4.
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CCard wrote: 29 Oct 2025 07:47 am
dugoutrex wrote: 28 Oct 2025 22:19 pm
CCard wrote: 28 Oct 2025 22:17 pm Ohtani is human after all. Toronto looks like they're not believing the hype. What I've learned in the playoffs so far? How important a very good bullpen can be. Very interesting game tomorrow. The Dodgers seldom have their backs to the wall, but tomorrow is almost a must win.
do you think Toronto has a 'very good bullpen' - it is actually their weakest link
Merely commenting that they are all throwing high 90's gas. When I looked up their pitching I was surprised to see their rankings.
Toronto...ERA - 19th
WHIP - 16th
BAA - 14th
QS - 14th

That doesn't really scream dominant to me. They apparently are a team built quite literally on offense.

Toronto...Runs - 4th
On Base - 1st
Batting Avg - 1st
Slug - 7th

I didn't realize they were that good offensively.
yup
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CCard wrote: 29 Oct 2025 07:47 am
dugoutrex wrote: 28 Oct 2025 22:19 pm
CCard wrote: 28 Oct 2025 22:17 pm Ohtani is human after all. Toronto looks like they're not believing the hype. What I've learned in the playoffs so far? How important a very good bullpen can be. Very interesting game tomorrow. The Dodgers seldom have their backs to the wall, but tomorrow is almost a must win.
do you think Toronto has a 'very good bullpen' - it is actually their weakest link
Merely commenting that they are all throwing high 90's gas. When I looked up their pitching I was surprised to see their rankings.
Toronto...ERA - 19th
WHIP - 16th
BAA - 14th
QS - 14th

That doesn't really scream dominant to me. They apparently are a team built quite literally on offense.

Toronto...Runs - 4th
On Base - 1st
Batting Avg - 1st
Slug - 7th

I didn't realize they were that good offensively.
And they lead all of MLB this playoff season w/a team slash of:

.285 .348 .475 .823
#1 in all slash lines
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Melville wrote: 28 Oct 2025 22:23 pm
CCard wrote: 28 Oct 2025 22:17 pm Ohtani is human after all. Toronto looks like they're not believing the hype. What I've learned in the playoffs so far? How important a very good bullpen can be. Very interesting game tomorrow. The Dodgers seldom have their backs to the wall, but tomorrow is almost a must win.
Ohtani wasn't just human.
He was bad.
6 innings, 4 earned runs.
0-3, 2 K's.
That's baseball.
Great one night.
Doghouse the next.
6 innings and 4 runs isn’t great but it’s certainly not bad. We would have been raving about that kind of start for weeks this year if someone in the Cardinal rotation did it……
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Banner29 wrote: 29 Oct 2025 10:13 am
Melville wrote: 28 Oct 2025 22:23 pm
CCard wrote: 28 Oct 2025 22:17 pm Ohtani is human after all. Toronto looks like they're not believing the hype. What I've learned in the playoffs so far? How important a very good bullpen can be. Very interesting game tomorrow. The Dodgers seldom have their backs to the wall, but tomorrow is almost a must win.
Ohtani wasn't just human.
He was bad.
6 innings, 4 earned runs.
0-3, 2 K's.
That's baseball.
Great one night.
Doghouse the next.
6 innings and 4 runs isn’t great but it’s certainly not bad. We would have been raving about that kind of start for weeks this year if someone in the Cardinal rotation did it……
Like everyone, I think Ohtani is an elite and generational talent.
But everyone has a bad game.
As for him being a Cardinal, I would not be in favor simply based on principles.
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The other day there was a discussion about best post season game. It compared a non WS game of Ohtani's whether it was better then Gibson. I said the time to wait until he had played a WS game. No doubt Ohtani brings better offense but pitching..... Give me Gibby. Gibby worst WS game was his first in 1964, That game was 8 innings, 4 ER, and 9 Ks. He came back 4 days later to pitch 10 innings, 2 ER and 13 K. Took 2 days off and pitched game 7, 9 innings, 5ER, and 9 Ks.

When Ohtani comes close to that, then talk about WS perforance.
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