Looking for a match for Donovan

[82birds]

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[Shady]

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Donovan could bring some needed starting pitching help. Maybe to a team like the Dodgers who seem to have an abundance of quality starting pitchers. Some still in the minors. And the Dodgers are loaded with top ten minor league outfield prospects in their system.

[rage-STL]

Seattle:
George Kirby would probably be the target, with the fall back being Bryce Miller. Doesn't feel like they would be parting ways with Woo, Castillo or Gilbert. Tough to compete if you blow up the top end of your rotation.

Yankees:
Will Warren or Cam Schlittler would be the likely targets here. The Yankees are always in play for FA pitching to bolster their rotation. Donovan would be a 20+ HR guy playing at Yankee Stadium in that lineup.

[ICCFIM2]

Seattle:
George Kirby would probably be the target, with the fall back being Bryce Miller. Doesn't feel like they would be parting ways with Woo, Castillo or Gilbert. Tough to compete if you blow up the top end of your rotation.

Yankees:
Will Warren or Cam Schlittler would be the likely targets here. The Yankees are always in play for FA pitching to bolster their rotation. Donovan would be a 20+ HR guy playing at Yankee Stadium in that lineup.

If the Cards are going to trade Donovan to either the Dodgers or the Mariners, who are both in win now mode, the Cards should try to get 2 of their top 10 prospects. In the case of the Mariners, one of Kade Anderson or Ryan Sloan, their #2 and #5 prospect both pitchers probably not ready until 2027 or 2028 plus their top OF prospect Montes. These are all high ceiling players that could also miss. But, if the Cards are going to trade Donovan, lets try to get two high ceiling guys that could change the trajectory of the organization for years to come. Kirby is 27 years old and has two extra years of control. But, I can't see them trading him.

Donovan is 26 Montes 24 and Anderson 29. Sloan is 14. So Anderson is probably too optimistic. But Donovan for Montes and Sloan with the Cards putting perhaps another prospect in the deal seems doable.

[Carp4Cy]

Seattle:
George Kirby would probably be the target, with the fall back being Bryce Miller. Doesn't feel like they would be parting ways with Woo, Castillo or Gilbert. Tough to compete if you blow up the top end of your rotation.

Yankees:
Will Warren or Cam Schlittler would be the likely targets here. The Yankees are always in play for FA pitching to bolster their rotation. Donovan would be a 20+ HR guy playing at Yankee Stadium in that lineup.

If the Cards are going to trade Donovan to either the Dodgers or the Mariners, who are both in win now mode, the Cards should try to get 2 of their top 10 prospects. In the case of the Mariners, one of Kade Anderson or Ryan Sloan, their #2 and #5 prospect both pitchers probably not ready until 2027 or 2028 plus their top OF prospect Montes. These are all high ceiling players that could also miss. But, if the Cards are going to trade Donovan, lets try to get two high ceiling guys that could change the trajectory of the organization for years to come. Kirby is 27 years old and has two extra years of control. But, I can't see them trading him.

Donovan is 26 Montes 24 and Anderson 29. Sloan is 14. So Anderson is probably too optimistic. But Donovan for Montes and Sloan with the Cards putting perhaps another prospect in the deal seems doable.

Do not trade Donny for prospects. If we ever want to start winning again, we either keep him and extend him or we trade him for someone proven who also has control left at a position we need.

We sent Top 10 prospects for both Goldie and Nolan and the Rockies and DBacks got no production from those guys. You don’t trade an All-Star and top producer for a risky prospect that may turn out to do nothing for you like Gomber at COL. That’s just a waste of someone we did produce in our own system.

[Ozziesfan41]

Seattle:
George Kirby would probably be the target, with the fall back being Bryce Miller. Doesn't feel like they would be parting ways with Woo, Castillo or Gilbert. Tough to compete if you blow up the top end of your rotation.

Yankees:
Will Warren or Cam Schlittler would be the likely targets here. The Yankees are always in play for FA pitching to bolster their rotation. Donovan would be a 20+ HR guy playing at Yankee Stadium in that lineup.

If the Cards are going to trade Donovan to either the Dodgers or the Mariners, who are both in win now mode, the Cards should try to get 2 of their top 10 prospects. In the case of the Mariners, one of Kade Anderson or Ryan Sloan, their #2 and #5 prospect both pitchers probably not ready until 2027 or 2028 plus their top OF prospect Montes. These are all high ceiling players that could also miss. But, if the Cards are going to trade Donovan, lets try to get two high ceiling guys that could change the trajectory of the organization for years to come. Kirby is 27 years old and has two extra years of control. But, I can't see them trading him.

Donovan is 26 Montes 24 and Anderson 29. Sloan is 14. So Anderson is probably too optimistic. But Donovan for Montes and Sloan with the Cards putting perhaps another prospect in the deal seems doable.

Do not trade Donny for prospects. If we ever want to start winning again, we either keep him and extend him or we trade him for someone proven who also has control left at a position we need.

We sent Top 10 prospects for both Goldie and Nolan and the Rockies and DBacks got no production from those guys. You don’t trade an All-Star and top producer for a risky prospect that may turn out to do nothing for you like Gomber at COL. That’s just a waste of someone we did produce in our own system.

Keeping him certainly hasn’t helped them win anything

[Carp4Cy]

Seattle:
George Kirby would probably be the target, with the fall back being Bryce Miller. Doesn't feel like they would be parting ways with Woo, Castillo or Gilbert. Tough to compete if you blow up the top end of your rotation.

Yankees:
Will Warren or Cam Schlittler would be the likely targets here. The Yankees are always in play for FA pitching to bolster their rotation. Donovan would be a 20+ HR guy playing at Yankee Stadium in that lineup.

If the Cards are going to trade Donovan to either the Dodgers or the Mariners, who are both in win now mode, the Cards should try to get 2 of their top 10 prospects. In the case of the Mariners, one of Kade Anderson or Ryan Sloan, their #2 and #5 prospect both pitchers probably not ready until 2027 or 2028 plus their top OF prospect Montes. These are all high ceiling players that could also miss. But, if the Cards are going to trade Donovan, lets try to get two high ceiling guys that could change the trajectory of the organization for years to come. Kirby is 27 years old and has two extra years of control. But, I can't see them trading him.

Donovan is 26 Montes 24 and Anderson 29. Sloan is 14. So Anderson is probably too optimistic. But Donovan for Montes and Sloan with the Cards putting perhaps another prospect in the deal seems doable.

Do not trade Donny for prospects. If we ever want to start winning again, we either keep him and extend him or we trade him for someone proven who also has control left at a position we need.

We sent Top 10 prospects for both Goldie and Nolan and the Rockies and DBacks got no production from those guys. You don’t trade an All-Star and top producer for a risky prospect that may turn out to do nothing for you like Gomber at COL. That’s just a waste of someone we did produce in our own system.

Keeping him certainly hasn’t helped them win anything

People said that about Tommy Edmon and he’s about to win his a second consecutive World Series ring.

And yes, St. Louis could get a whole lot worse than 79 night wins if they just trade everybody for junk. I live in Denver so I should know.

[ICCFIM2]

Seattle:
George Kirby would probably be the target, with the fall back being Bryce Miller. Doesn't feel like they would be parting ways with Woo, Castillo or Gilbert. Tough to compete if you blow up the top end of your rotation.

Yankees:
Will Warren or Cam Schlittler would be the likely targets here. The Yankees are always in play for FA pitching to bolster their rotation. Donovan would be a 20+ HR guy playing at Yankee Stadium in that lineup.

If the Cards are going to trade Donovan to either the Dodgers or the Mariners, who are both in win now mode, the Cards should try to get 2 of their top 10 prospects. In the case of the Mariners, one of Kade Anderson or Ryan Sloan, their #2 and #5 prospect both pitchers probably not ready until 2027 or 2028 plus their top OF prospect Montes. These are all high ceiling players that could also miss. But, if the Cards are going to trade Donovan, lets try to get two high ceiling guys that could change the trajectory of the organization for years to come. Kirby is 27 years old and has two extra years of control. But, I can't see them trading him.

Donovan is 26 Montes 24 and Anderson 29. Sloan is 14. So Anderson is probably too optimistic. But Donovan for Montes and Sloan with the Cards putting perhaps another prospect in the deal seems doable.

Do not trade Donny for prospects. If we ever want to start winning again, we either keep him and extend him or we trade him for someone proven who also has control left at a position we need.

We sent Top 10 prospects for both Goldie and Nolan and the Rockies and DBacks got no production from those guys. You don’t trade an All-Star and top producer for a risky prospect that may turn out to do nothing for you like Gomber at COL. That’s just a waste of someone we did produce in our own system.

I understand that sentiment. But, if they are not going to add around Donovan, then they need to do the very best they can. I am not a big fan of moving Donovan..

I am not certain who we sent to the Rockies were ever potentially that good except Gomber. Certainly the Diamondback got 3 guys back who had potential.

If they keep Donovan, then they should try to win now. If they don't, they have to get back at least 2 of a teams top 5 prospects. Even if the trade values don't match up. If they hold onto him all of 2026 and then trade him at the deadline in 2027, we are not going to get a lot back for him, ala the relief pitchers.

At some point, we will need to trust what Bloom does, or we won't and this will get ugly.

[Ozziesfan41]

Seattle:
George Kirby would probably be the target, with the fall back being Bryce Miller. Doesn't feel like they would be parting ways with Woo, Castillo or Gilbert. Tough to compete if you blow up the top end of your rotation.

Yankees:
Will Warren or Cam Schlittler would be the likely targets here. The Yankees are always in play for FA pitching to bolster their rotation. Donovan would be a 20+ HR guy playing at Yankee Stadium in that lineup.

If the Cards are going to trade Donovan to either the Dodgers or the Mariners, who are both in win now mode, the Cards should try to get 2 of their top 10 prospects. In the case of the Mariners, one of Kade Anderson or Ryan Sloan, their #2 and #5 prospect both pitchers probably not ready until 2027 or 2028 plus their top OF prospect Montes. These are all high ceiling players that could also miss. But, if the Cards are going to trade Donovan, lets try to get two high ceiling guys that could change the trajectory of the organization for years to come. Kirby is 27 years old and has two extra years of control. But, I can't see them trading him.

Donovan is 26 Montes 24 and Anderson 29. Sloan is 14. So Anderson is probably too optimistic. But Donovan for Montes and Sloan with the Cards putting perhaps another prospect in the deal seems doable.

Do not trade Donny for prospects. If we ever want to start winning again, we either keep him and extend him or we trade him for someone proven who also has control left at a position we need.

We sent Top 10 prospects for both Goldie and Nolan and the Rockies and DBacks got no production from those guys. You don’t trade an All-Star and top producer for a risky prospect that may turn out to do nothing for you like Gomber at COL. That’s just a waste of someone we did produce in our own system.

I understand that sentiment. But, if they are not going to add around Donovan, then they need to do the very best they can. I am not a big fan of moving Donovan..

I am not certain who we sent to the Rockies were ever potentially that good except Gomber. Certainly the Diamondback got 3 guys back who had potential.

If they keep Donovan, then they should try to win now. If they don't, they have to get back at least 2 of a teams top 5 prospects. Even if the trade values don't match up. If they hold onto him all of 2026 and then trade him at the deadline in 2027, we are not going to get a lot back for him, ala the relief pitchers.

At some point, we will need to trust what Bloom does, or we won't and this will get ugly.

Agree. The only way they should keep Donovan is if they make moves to try to win and not just some hope and prayer moves that were the mo specials like sign Lynn and Gibson and hope and pray you can win but actually moves that will put them in legitimate position to win. If not he needs to be traded and since they are bringing Gorman and walker back to play every day they aren’t serious about winning so trade him

[Melville]

The best match for Donovan is LF in STL.
Trade Lars The Human Sushi-baar and Walker.
The team can compete for a W/C next year with 3 simple roster adjustments.
While still building toward 90+ wins beginning in 2027.
I could get it done in 30 days or less.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

[Cusecards]

The best match for Donovan is LF in STL.
Trade Lars The Human Sushi-baar and Walker.
The team can compete for a W/C next year with 3 simple roster adjustments.
While still building toward 90+ wins beginning in 2027.
I could get it done in 30 days or less.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

Always a plus when the Sideshow Clown ends the posting day giving us a laugh!

[scoutyjones2]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com

[ICCFIM2]

The best match for Donovan is LF in STL.
Trade Lars The Human Sushi-baar and Walker.
The team can compete for a W/C next year with 3 simple roster adjustments.
While still building toward 90+ wins beginning in 2027.
I could get it done in 30 days or less.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

Sure, they could try to win. Go out and sign, Framber Valdez, Dylan Cease, Cody Bellinger and 2 relief pitchers.

Donovan LF
Herrera DH
Bellinger CF
Contreras 1B
Burleson RF
Arenado 3B
Winn SS
Wetherholdt 2B
Pages 2B

Valdez
Cease
Gray
Liberatore
McGreevy

Bench Gorman, Pojo, Scott and Fermin

If Dewitt allows payroll to increase to $225M, that should be doable. That should be a playoff contender. All I need is the money...

[Talkin' Baseball]

The best match for Donovan is LF in STL.
Trade Lars The Human Sushi-baar and Walker.
The team can compete for a W/C next year with 3 simple roster adjustments.
While still building toward 90+ wins beginning in 2027.
I could get it done in 30 days or less.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

Nah.

[TXCardsFanX]

Seattle:
George Kirby would probably be the target, with the fall back being Bryce Miller. Doesn't feel like they would be parting ways with Woo, Castillo or Gilbert. Tough to compete if you blow up the top end of your rotation.

Yankees:
Will Warren or Cam Schlittler would be the likely targets here. The Yankees are always in play for FA pitching to bolster their rotation. Donovan would be a 20+ HR guy playing at Yankee Stadium in that lineup.

If the Cards are going to trade Donovan to either the Dodgers or the Mariners, who are both in win now mode, the Cards should try to get 2 of their top 10 prospects. In the case of the Mariners, one of Kade Anderson or Ryan Sloan, their #2 and #5 prospect both pitchers probably not ready until 2027 or 2028 plus their top OF prospect Montes. These are all high ceiling players that could also miss. But, if the Cards are going to trade Donovan, lets try to get two high ceiling guys that could change the trajectory of the organization for years to come. Kirby is 27 years old and has two extra years of control. But, I can't see them trading him.

Donovan is 26 Montes 24 and Anderson 29. Sloan is 14. So Anderson is probably too optimistic. But Donovan for Montes and Sloan with the Cards putting perhaps another prospect in the deal seems doable.

Do not trade Donny for prospects. If we ever want to start winning again, we either keep him and extend him or we trade him for someone proven who also has control left at a position we need.

We sent Top 10 prospects for both Goldie and Nolan and the Rockies and DBacks got no production from those guys. You don’t trade an All-Star and top producer for a risky prospect that may turn out to do nothing for you like Gomber at COL. That’s just a waste of someone we did produce in our own system.

I understand that sentiment. But, if they are not going to add around Donovan, then they need to do the very best they can. I am not a big fan of moving Donovan..

I am not certain who we sent to the Rockies were ever potentially that good except Gomber. Certainly the Diamondback got 3 guys back who had potential.

If they keep Donovan, then they should try to win now. If they don't, they have to get back at least 2 of a teams top 5 prospects. Even if the trade values don't match up. If they hold onto him all of 2026 and then trade him at the deadline in 2027, we are not going to get a lot back for him, ala the relief pitchers.

At some point, we will need to trust what Bloom does, or we won't and this will get ugly.

Agree. The only way they should keep Donovan is if they make moves to try to win and not just some hope and prayer moves that were the mo specials like sign Lynn and Gibson and hope and pray you can win but actually moves that will put them in legitimate position to win. If not he needs to be traded and since they are bringing Gorman and walker back to play every day they aren’t serious about winning so trade him

Agreed. Donovan could be the most dependable player on the roster, but the team is not competing for even a WC in 2026 (and probably not 2027). Donovan could actually net the Cardinals some future arms that we need DESPERATELY. I'd trade him to a contender for prospects.
Not sure why folks are saying to trade Noot "instead". I'm OK trading Noot, but he won't net us top-tier prospects.

[Talkin' Baseball]

Seattle:
George Kirby would probably be the target, with the fall back being Bryce Miller. Doesn't feel like they would be parting ways with Woo, Castillo or Gilbert. Tough to compete if you blow up the top end of your rotation.

Yankees:
Will Warren or Cam Schlittler would be the likely targets here. The Yankees are always in play for FA pitching to bolster their rotation. Donovan would be a 20+ HR guy playing at Yankee Stadium in that lineup.

If the Cards are going to trade Donovan to either the Dodgers or the Mariners, who are both in win now mode, the Cards should try to get 2 of their top 10 prospects. In the case of the Mariners, one of Kade Anderson or Ryan Sloan, their #2 and #5 prospect both pitchers probably not ready until 2027 or 2028 plus their top OF prospect Montes. These are all high ceiling players that could also miss. But, if the Cards are going to trade Donovan, lets try to get two high ceiling guys that could change the trajectory of the organization for years to come. Kirby is 27 years old and has two extra years of control. But, I can't see them trading him.

Donovan is 26 Montes 24 and Anderson 29. Sloan is 14. So Anderson is probably too optimistic. But Donovan for Montes and Sloan with the Cards putting perhaps another prospect in the deal seems doable.

Do not trade Donny for prospects. If we ever want to start winning again, we either keep him and extend him or we trade him for someone proven who also has control left at a position we need.

We sent Top 10 prospects for both Goldie and Nolan and the Rockies and DBacks got no production from those guys. You don’t trade an All-Star and top producer for a risky prospect that may turn out to do nothing for you like Gomber at COL. That’s just a waste of someone we did produce in our own system.

I understand that sentiment. But, if they are not going to add around Donovan, then they need to do the very best they can. I am not a big fan of moving Donovan..

I am not certain who we sent to the Rockies were ever potentially that good except Gomber. Certainly the Diamondback got 3 guys back who had potential.

If they keep Donovan, then they should try to win now. If they don't, they have to get back at least 2 of a teams top 5 prospects. Even if the trade values don't match up. If they hold onto him all of 2026 and then trade him at the deadline in 2027, we are not going to get a lot back for him, ala the relief pitchers.

At some point, we will need to trust what Bloom does, or we won't and this will get ugly.

Agree. The only way they should keep Donovan is if they make moves to try to win and not just some hope and prayer moves that were the mo specials like sign Lynn and Gibson and hope and pray you can win but actually moves that will put them in legitimate position to win. If not he needs to be traded and since they are bringing Gorman and walker back to play every day they aren’t serious about winning so trade him

Agreed. Donovan could be the most dependable player on the roster, but the team is not competing for even a WC in 2026 (and probably not 2027). Donovan could actually net the Cardinals some future arms that we need DESPERATELY. I'd trade him to a contender for prospects.
Not sure why folks are saying to trade Noot "instead". I'm OK trading Noot, but he won't net us top-tier prospects.

According to Baseball Trade Values, Nootbaar's trade value is about 15% of what it was a year ago. Donovan's trade value is about 50% of what it was a year ago. If they wait another year it will be half again. One of two things need to happen THIS winter, and not some other time. Donovan either needs to be extended, or traded. The Cardinals should not go into the season with Donovan without an extension. Either way can work for the team. Waiting won't work.