OT: NBA stars/ coach arrested with Mafia gambling scheme

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Re: NBA stars/ coach arrested with Mafia gambling scheme

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Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 23 Oct 2025 11:01 am Who would have thought that totally intertwining sports and gambling and sports networks would result in something like this?
It makes me giggle. The NBA - like the other pro sports leagues - was willing to make a farce of itself in the name of the almighty dollar and now their credibility (#brand) is mockworthy. Great job all around!
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Dazepster wrote: 23 Oct 2025 13:03 pm
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 23 Oct 2025 11:01 am Who would have thought that totally intertwining sports and gambling and sports networks would result in something like this?
Spot On!!!
I for one am shocked - shocked, I tell ya! Never would I have dreamed up of any of this. Why, what’s next? Wild parties, drugs and booze galore? Nah.
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ramfandan wrote: 23 Oct 2025 11:37 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 23 Oct 2025 11:15 am MLB needs to institute 100% electronic strike zone not the proposed 2 challenges per game for exactly this reason. Easiest sport to rig is MLB because the home plate umpire can fix the strike zone.

The excuse I saw was they didn't want to completely remove the "human element" from the game.
Other pro sports pretty easy too if they wish to be crooked . On a long pass play the umpire can throw a flag for Off. Holding and negate the chance on a TD throw... they say 'holding can be called on nearly every NFL play '
In basketball the difference between a blocking call and charging foul is pretty subjective too.
The refs in WWE wrestling are the most trustworthy as the match is predetermined . So they just are in the ring to give time cues to the wrestlersas to when the match should be ended. :lol:
That's true but the technology exists to get 100% accurate strike zone and MLB refuses to implement it at the same time owners are pushing for gambling.
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Whoever is the informant is one brave soul.
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ScotchMIrish wrote: 23 Oct 2025 13:59 pm
ramfandan wrote: 23 Oct 2025 11:37 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 23 Oct 2025 11:15 am MLB needs to institute 100% electronic strike zone not the proposed 2 challenges per game for exactly this reason. Easiest sport to rig is MLB because the home plate umpire can fix the strike zone.

The excuse I saw was they didn't want to completely remove the "human element" from the game.
Other pro sports pretty easy too if they wish to be crooked . On a long pass play the umpire can throw a flag for Off. Holding and negate the chance on a TD throw... they say 'holding can be called on nearly every NFL play '
In basketball the difference between a blocking call and charging foul is pretty subjective too.
The refs in WWE wrestling are the most trustworthy as the match is predetermined . So they just are in the ring to give time cues to the wrestlersas to when the match should be ended. :lol:
That's true but the technology exists to get 100% accurate strike zone and MLB refuses to implement it at the same time owners are pushing for gambling.
While the system can be accurate, a call can only be reversed thru challenge. A batter can’t get assistance from a manager whether to challrnge or not so he must use his own judgment and if he requests challenge and is wrong, oh boy! If your team is wrong twice you are out of challenges. Then you risk being screwed with bad call latr in game that cannot be challenged.
I feel the fans watching on tv at sports bars will be yelling Challenge that!’ Only to be frustrated when no challenge is made.
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ramfandan wrote: 23 Oct 2025 14:24 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 23 Oct 2025 13:59 pm
ramfandan wrote: 23 Oct 2025 11:37 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 23 Oct 2025 11:15 am MLB needs to institute 100% electronic strike zone not the proposed 2 challenges per game for exactly this reason. Easiest sport to rig is MLB because the home plate umpire can fix the strike zone.

The excuse I saw was they didn't want to completely remove the "human element" from the game.
Other pro sports pretty easy too if they wish to be crooked . On a long pass play the umpire can throw a flag for Off. Holding and negate the chance on a TD throw... they say 'holding can be called on nearly every NFL play '
In basketball the difference between a blocking call and charging foul is pretty subjective too.
The refs in WWE wrestling are the most trustworthy as the match is predetermined . So they just are in the ring to give time cues to the wrestlersas to when the match should be ended. :lol:
That's true but the technology exists to get 100% accurate strike zone and MLB refuses to implement it at the same time owners are pushing for gambling.
While the system can be accurate, a call can only be reversed thru challenge. A batter can’t get assistance from a manager whether to challrnge or not so he must use his own judgment and if he requests challenge and is wrong, oh boy! If your team is wrong twice you are out of challenges. Then you risk being screwed with bad call latr in game that cannot be challenged.
I feel the fans watching on tv at sports bars will be yelling Challenge that!’ Only to be frustrated when no challenge is made.
I agree and there is no excuse to implement it completely other than the umpires don't want it. Same umpires who stand to make money rigging games. I'm implement it and if the umps don't like it they can walk.
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ScotchMIrish wrote: 23 Oct 2025 14:29 pm
ramfandan wrote: 23 Oct 2025 14:24 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 23 Oct 2025 13:59 pm
ramfandan wrote: 23 Oct 2025 11:37 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 23 Oct 2025 11:15 am MLB needs to institute 100% electronic strike zone not the proposed 2 challenges per game for exactly this reason. Easiest sport to rig is MLB because the home plate umpire can fix the strike zone.

The excuse I saw was they didn't want to completely remove the "human element" from the game.
Other pro sports pretty easy too if they wish to be crooked . On a long pass play the umpire can throw a flag for Off. Holding and negate the chance on a TD throw... they say 'holding can be called on nearly every NFL play '
In basketball the difference between a blocking call and charging foul is pretty subjective too.
The refs in WWE wrestling are the most trustworthy as the match is predetermined . So they just are in the ring to give time cues to the wrestlersas to when the match should be ended. :lol:
That's true but the technology exists to get 100% accurate strike zone and MLB refuses to implement it at the same time owners are pushing for gambling.
While the system can be accurate, a call can only be reversed thru challenge. A batter can’t get assistance from a manager whether to challrnge or not so he must use his own judgment and if he requests challenge and is wrong, oh boy! If your team is wrong twice you are out of challenges. Then you risk being screwed with bad call latr in game that cannot be challenged.
I feel the fans watching on tv at sports bars will be yelling Challenge that!’ Only to be frustrated when no challenge is made.
I agree and there is no excuse to implement it completely other than the umpires don't want it. Same umpires who stand to make money rigging games. I'm implement it and if the umps don't like it they can walk.
Sure you can have a bad apple in any occupation.
An umpire risks a lot to rig a game and lose a lucrative job . Vet umpires can earn up to $450,000 per year.
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ramfandan wrote: 23 Oct 2025 16:49 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 23 Oct 2025 14:29 pm
ramfandan wrote: 23 Oct 2025 14:24 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 23 Oct 2025 13:59 pm
ramfandan wrote: 23 Oct 2025 11:37 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 23 Oct 2025 11:15 am MLB needs to institute 100% electronic strike zone not the proposed 2 challenges per game for exactly this reason. Easiest sport to rig is MLB because the home plate umpire can fix the strike zone.

The excuse I saw was they didn't want to completely remove the "human element" from the game.
Other pro sports pretty easy too if they wish to be crooked . On a long pass play the umpire can throw a flag for Off. Holding and negate the chance on a TD throw... they say 'holding can be called on nearly every NFL play '
In basketball the difference between a blocking call and charging foul is pretty subjective too.
The refs in WWE wrestling are the most trustworthy as the match is predetermined . So they just are in the ring to give time cues to the wrestlersas to when the match should be ended. :lol:
That's true but the technology exists to get 100% accurate strike zone and MLB refuses to implement it at the same time owners are pushing for gambling.
While the system can be accurate, a call can only be reversed thru challenge. A batter can’t get assistance from a manager whether to challrnge or not so he must use his own judgment and if he requests challenge and is wrong, oh boy! If your team is wrong twice you are out of challenges. Then you risk being screwed with bad call latr in game that cannot be challenged.
I feel the fans watching on tv at sports bars will be yelling Challenge that!’ Only to be frustrated when no challenge is made.
I agree and there is no excuse to implement it completely other than the umpires don't want it. Same umpires who stand to make money rigging games. I'm implement it and if the umps don't like it they can walk.
Sure you can have a bad apple in any occupation.
An umpire risks a lot to rig a game and lose a lucrative job . Vet umpires can earn up to $450,000 per year.
You just had a NBA coach and player who makes millions get busted for this.

Offer an ump enough money to fix games and greed takes over.
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Bomber1 wrote: 23 Oct 2025 11:27 am
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 23 Oct 2025 11:01 am Who would have thought that totally intertwining sports and gambling and sports networks would result in something like this?
Shocking!!
The awful terrible product is full of rigged cheaters 8O 8O
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All NBA stars have been hiring Translators today…..
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mizfan wrote: 23 Oct 2025 14:23 pm Whoever is the informant is one brave soul.
And possibly soon to be dead soul. Don’t mess with the mafia
They might have you down for a ‘hit’ and that’s not on their baseball scorecard
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ramfandan wrote: 23 Oct 2025 14:24 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 23 Oct 2025 13:59 pm
ramfandan wrote: 23 Oct 2025 11:37 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 23 Oct 2025 11:15 am MLB needs to institute 100% electronic strike zone not the proposed 2 challenges per game for exactly this reason. Easiest sport to rig is MLB because the home plate umpire can fix the strike zone.

The excuse I saw was they didn't want to completely remove the "human element" from the game.
Other pro sports pretty easy too if they wish to be crooked . On a long pass play the umpire can throw a flag for Off. Holding and negate the chance on a TD throw... they say 'holding can be called on nearly every NFL play '
In basketball the difference between a blocking call and charging foul is pretty subjective too.
The refs in WWE wrestling are the most trustworthy as the match is predetermined . So they just are in the ring to give time cues to the wrestlersas to when the match should be ended. :lol:
That's true but the technology exists to get 100% accurate strike zone and MLB refuses to implement it at the same time owners are pushing for gambling.
While the system can be accurate, a call can only be reversed thru challenge. A batter can’t get assistance from a manager whether to challrnge or not so he must use his own judgment and if he requests challenge and is wrong, oh boy! If your team is wrong twice you are out of challenges. Then you risk being screwed with bad call latr in game that cannot be challenged.
I feel the fans watching on tv at sports bars will be yelling Challenge that!’ Only to be frustrated when no challenge is made.
While in theory thar is correct I would think this would be easy to "cheat" on. Someone could yell out a code word from the bench to tell the batter or pitcher to challenge quite easily it would seem. Are you going to enforce the bench not to say a word when a bad call is made?
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Giamatti and Stern never would have let it get to this point, even when it meant banning Pete Rose and suspending Michael Jordan.
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ramfandan wrote: 23 Oct 2025 11:09 am The four crime families involved were the Bonanno , Gambino, Lucchese, and Genovese .
Over 31 have been invited as NBA players were used to lure the gamblers to the underground poker games. Money derived , according to the report, was laundered by converting it to crypto currency so tougher to trace.
Where’s Bartsini and Moe Green? Hyman Roth, too. And Johnny Ola? Frankie FiveAngels?
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brock118 wrote: 23 Oct 2025 20:36 pm
ramfandan wrote: 23 Oct 2025 14:24 pm
ScotchMIrish wrote: 23 Oct 2025 13:59 pm
ramfandan wrote: 23 Oct 2025 11:37 am
ScotchMIrish wrote: 23 Oct 2025 11:15 am MLB needs to institute 100% electronic strike zone not the proposed 2 challenges per game for exactly this reason. Easiest sport to rig is MLB because the home plate umpire can fix the strike zone.

The excuse I saw was they didn't want to completely remove the "human element" from the game.
Other pro sports pretty easy too if they wish to be crooked . On a long pass play the umpire can throw a flag for Off. Holding and negate the chance on a TD throw... they say 'holding can be called on nearly every NFL play '
In basketball the difference between a blocking call and charging foul is pretty subjective too.
The refs in WWE wrestling are the most trustworthy as the match is predetermined . So they just are in the ring to give time cues to the wrestlersas to when the match should be ended. :lol:
That's true but the technology exists to get 100% accurate strike zone and MLB refuses to implement it at the same time owners are pushing for gambling.
While the system can be accurate, a call can only be reversed thru challenge. A batter can’t get assistance from a manager whether to challrnge or not so he must use his own judgment and if he requests challenge and is wrong, oh boy! If your team is wrong twice you are out of challenges. Then you risk being screwed with bad call latr in game that cannot be challenged.
I feel the fans watching on tv at sports bars will be yelling Challenge that!’ Only to be frustrated when no challenge is made.
While in theory thar is correct I would think this would be easy to "cheat" on. Someone could yell out a code word from the bench to tell the batter or pitcher to challenge quite easily it would seem. Are you going to enforce the bench not to say a word when a bad call is made?
or use a trashcan lid , right , .45?
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I suspect this stuff is already going on in baseball. Or it will be soon. Or you could get into a situation where organized crime would pressure a player to make some sort of deal or else....your mother might have an accident. So we have gone from banning players in the Black Sox scandal, to Pete Rose being banned, and now we get Bet MGM ads on MLBTV. Seriously? Of course this stuff is going on and will be more prevalent. There is a TON of money at stake.... What on earth did MLB think was going to happen when they opened the flood gates to organized gambling? We have had threads about this before. It was only a matter of time. I am shocked, shocked I tell ya... duh...
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