Monty very critical of Snuggs last night

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Didn't Berube get fired in part for going off on Kyrou and Thomas publicly? Not that I think he should have done that. I don't like it when coaches in any sport go off on individual players publicly. Bad form.

[theograce]

Didn't Berube get fired in part for going off on Kyrou and Thomas publicly? Not that I think he should have done that. I don't like it when coaches in any sport go off on individual players publicly. Bad form.

That’s much much different.

This is a young player not an 8 million dollar core player.

Plus Berube crossed the line into saying things you just can’t say.

[a smell of green grass]

This doesn't surprise me at all--especially considering the rest of what Monty said last night.

Remember the "team culture" problems in Jan 2025? Remember the Army comments at that time: "Our best players don't show up every game".

Well, per Monty last night, that team has RETURNED. That being the case, remember the decision that was made about the prospects?!!!

In Jan 2025, the fans and reporters wanted Monty/Army to bring in the prospects. The thought being that the team can't play any worse. May as well give them a try.

Remember what Army said....?
"No way that we bring in the prospects when we have a team culture problem". Essentially, Army did not want the prospect to "learn the bad habits" of the players who have been here the longest".

Well guess, what. Now we have a prospect on board and in the locker room. YOU BET THAT MONTY IS GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT SNUGGERUD DOESN"T PICK UP THE KYROU AND THOMAS DISEASE!!!

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Didn't Berube get fired in part for going off on Kyrou and Thomas publicly? Not that I think he should have done that. I don't like it when coaches in any sport go off on individual players publicly. Bad form.

That’s much much different.

This is a young player not an 8 million dollar core player.

Plus Berube crossed the line into saying things you just can’t say.

Core players should be held more accountable, not less. Or at least equitably. You can't have prima donnas. But again, in private, not in public.

In my career, the best bosses always had "discussions" with employees about performance in private. Enlightened management is enlightened management, no matter what field. Monty's public comments were out of line. All he had to answer was "no comment" to that question.

[theograce]

Didn't Berube get fired in part for going off on Kyrou and Thomas publicly? Not that I think he should have done that. I don't like it when coaches in any sport go off on individual players publicly. Bad form.

That’s much much different.

This is a young player not an 8 million dollar core player.

Plus Berube crossed the line into saying things you just can’t say.

Core players should be held more accountable, not less. Or at least equitably. You can't have prima donnas. But again, in private, not in public.

In my career, the best bosses always had "discussions" with employees about performance in private. Enlightened management is enlightened management, no matter what field. Monty's public comments were out of line. All he had to answer was "no comment" to that question.

No they weren’t out of line at all. Totally appropriate.

And everyone knows Berube crossed the lines. You don’t talk about heart and you don’t talk about money. I’m surprised he lasted as long as he did because that’s a serious violation in that role.

[Frank Underwood]

Snugs has had some early success and Monty wants to make sure he doesn’t get cocky and take his foot off the peddle. This is the NHL and you can’t take nights off. Snuggerud will learn as he goes and Monty will make sure he doesn’t get too comfortable or too full of himself.

I trust Coach Monty a lot more than people on this site who haven't been coaching successfully for many years.

Exactly right! Snuggerud comes from a good hockey family. He won’t need much hand holding, and if he doesn’t respond well (I don’t see that happening), I’m guessing his dad will be on a plane and give the kid a kick in the backside

[ManitobaBlues]

Didn't Berube get fired in part for going off on Kyrou and Thomas publicly? Not that I think he should have done that. I don't like it when coaches in any sport go off on individual players publicly. Bad form.

That’s much much different.

This is a young player not an 8 million dollar core player.

Plus Berube crossed the line into saying things you just can’t say.

Core players should be held more accountable, not less. Or at least equitably. You can't have prima donnas. But again, in private, not in public.

In my career, the best bosses always had "discussions" with employees about performance in private. Enlightened management is enlightened management, no matter what field. Monty's public comments were out of line. All he had to answer was "no comment" to that question.

No they weren’t out of line at all. Totally appropriate.

And everyone knows Berube crossed the lines. You don’t talk about heart and you don’t talk about money. I’m surprised he lasted as long as he did because that’s a serious violation in that role.

I disagree — Berube’s statements were fair. There’s nothing wrong with saying that a player earning $8 million a year needs to perform at a level that reflects that salary. That’s not crossing the line; it’s accountability.

As for the “playing with no heart” comment, I believe Thomas’s response should have simply been “no comment” or an acknowledgment that “he’s our coach, and we need to follow his plan.” Instead, he reacted emotionally, which came across as immature.

When Kyrou barked back at Berube at the end of the period, that moment marked the breaking point — the trust and respect in their relationship were effectively gone.

Honestly, I have no issue with coaches or managers calling out highly paid players publicly. Fans are the ones buying the tickets, jerseys, and merchandise — we help fund those salaries. So yes, in my view, every line of accountability should be fair game.

[theograce]

Didn't Berube get fired in part for going off on Kyrou and Thomas publicly? Not that I think he should have done that. I don't like it when coaches in any sport go off on individual players publicly. Bad form.

That’s much much different.

This is a young player not an 8 million dollar core player.

Plus Berube crossed the line into saying things you just can’t say.

Core players should be held more accountable, not less. Or at least equitably. You can't have prima donnas. But again, in private, not in public.

In my career, the best bosses always had "discussions" with employees about performance in private. Enlightened management is enlightened management, no matter what field. Monty's public comments were out of line. All he had to answer was "no comment" to that question.

No they weren’t out of line at all. Totally appropriate.

And everyone knows Berube crossed the lines. You don’t talk about heart and you don’t talk about money. I’m surprised he lasted as long as he did because that’s a serious violation in that role.

I disagree — Berube’s statements were fair.

It doesn’t matter your perception of fair. It’s a no no in the industry

[a smell of green grass]

Didn't Berube get fired in part for going off on Kyrou and Thomas publicly? Not that I think he should have done that. I don't like it when coaches in any sport go off on individual players publicly. Bad form.

That’s much much different.

This is a young player not an 8 million dollar core player.

Plus Berube crossed the line into saying things you just can’t say.

Core players should be held more accountable, not less. Or at least equitably. You can't have prima donnas. But again, in private, not in public.

In my career, the best bosses always had "discussions" with employees about performance in private. Enlightened management is enlightened management, no matter what field. Monty's public comments were out of line. All he had to answer was "no comment" to that question.

No they weren’t out of line at all. Totally appropriate.

And everyone knows Berube crossed the lines. You don’t talk about heart and you don’t talk about money. I’m surprised he lasted as long as he did because that’s a serious violation in that role.

I disagree — Berube’s statements were fair.

It doesn’t matter your perception of fair. It’s a no no in the industry

Monty knows it's a no-no.

Is Monty wanting out?

[ManitobaBlues]

Didn't Berube get fired in part for going off on Kyrou and Thomas publicly? Not that I think he should have done that. I don't like it when coaches in any sport go off on individual players publicly. Bad form.

That’s much much different.

This is a young player not an 8 million dollar core player.

Plus Berube crossed the line into saying things you just can’t say.

Core players should be held more accountable, not less. Or at least equitably. You can't have prima donnas. But again, in private, not in public.

In my career, the best bosses always had "discussions" with employees about performance in private. Enlightened management is enlightened management, no matter what field. Monty's public comments were out of line. All he had to answer was "no comment" to that question.

No they weren’t out of line at all. Totally appropriate.

And everyone knows Berube crossed the lines. You don’t talk about heart and you don’t talk about money. I’m surprised he lasted as long as he did because that’s a serious violation in that role.

I disagree — Berube’s statements were fair.

It doesn’t matter your perception of fair. It’s a no no in the industry

Times have changed, and we’re going to start seeing more Berube-style callouts across professional sports. I’m already noticing it in the NFL — coaches and managers are beginning to hold players publicly accountable. These multi-millionaire $$$ athletes are no longer immune to criticism or exempt from accountability.

[ManitobaBlues]

Didn't Berube get fired in part for going off on Kyrou and Thomas publicly? Not that I think he should have done that. I don't like it when coaches in any sport go off on individual players publicly. Bad form.

That’s much much different.

This is a young player not an 8 million dollar core player.

Plus Berube crossed the line into saying things you just can’t say.

Core players should be held more accountable, not less. Or at least equitably. You can't have prima donnas. But again, in private, not in public.

In my career, the best bosses always had "discussions" with employees about performance in private. Enlightened management is enlightened management, no matter what field. Monty's public comments were out of line. All he had to answer was "no comment" to that question.

No they weren’t out of line at all. Totally appropriate.

And everyone knows Berube crossed the lines. You don’t talk about heart and you don’t talk about money. I’m surprised he lasted as long as he did because that’s a serious violation in that role.

I disagree — Berube’s statements were fair.

It doesn’t matter your perception of fair. It’s a no no in the industry

Monty knows it's a no-no.

Is Monty wanting out?

He did the same thing in Boston, and honestly, I feel for Monty — he’s dealing with a bi-polar team. Personally, I’d rather see us go through a full rebuild. Bring in young, hungry players who want to prove themselves and chase a Stanley Cup.

[SRV1990]

Didn't Berube get fired in part for going off on Kyrou and Thomas publicly? Not that I think he should have done that. I don't like it when coaches in any sport go off on individual players publicly. Bad form.

In part, yes, same thing Monty did by calling out Snuggerud. But when asked specifically about a player, Monty said what he thought. I don't think it was much, to be honest. And I'm sure it's the same thing he told him in person.

[ManitobaBlues]

Didn't Berube get fired in part for going off on Kyrou and Thomas publicly? Not that I think he should have done that. I don't like it when coaches in any sport go off on individual players publicly. Bad form.

In part, yes, same thing Monty did by calling out Snuggerud. But when asked specifically about a player, Monty said what he thought. I don't think it was much, to be honest. And I'm sure it's the same thing he told him in person.

I agree he had to tell him the exact same thing, and probably a lot more, but did not share with the media. Again who cares about what the industry says accountability is part of being a professional paid athlete.

[SRV1990]

Didn't Berube get fired in part for going off on Kyrou and Thomas publicly? Not that I think he should have done that. I don't like it when coaches in any sport go off on individual players publicly. Bad form.

In part, yes, same thing Monty did by calling out Snuggerud. But when asked specifically about a player, Monty said what he thought. I don't think it was much, to be honest. And I'm sure it's the same thing he told him in person.

I agree he had to tell him the exact same thing, and probably a lot more, but did not share with the media. Again who cares about what the industry says accountability is part of being a professional paid athlete.

Those with an agenda or faux-fans of the Blues are the only ones who care. The rest of us understand professional sports.

[somni]

Didn't Berube get fired in part for going off on Kyrou and Thomas publicly? Not that I think he should have done that. I don't like it when coaches in any sport go off on individual players publicly. Bad form.

In part, yes, same thing Monty did by calling out Snuggerud. But when asked specifically about a player, Monty said what he thought. I don't think it was much, to be honest. And I'm sure it's the same thing he told him in person.

I agree he had to tell him the exact same thing, and probably a lot more, but did not share with the media. Again who cares about what the industry says accountability is part of being a professional paid athlete.

Those with an agenda or faux-fans of the Blues are the only ones who care. The rest of us understand professional sports.

Yep. This thread is hilarious. Oh...he was VERY critical of Snuggerud.
All he said when asked about his one shift was " "He wasn't skating tonight, wasn't checking. I didn't think it was his night."

It was to the point and answered the question. I've heard MUCH worse in interviews.

The team is 3-2-1. It's been SIX games.

[Frank Underwood]

Didn't Berube get fired in part for going off on Kyrou and Thomas publicly? Not that I think he should have done that. I don't like it when coaches in any sport go off on individual players publicly. Bad form.

In part, yes, same thing Monty did by calling out Snuggerud. But when asked specifically about a player, Monty said what he thought. I don't think it was much, to be honest. And I'm sure it's the same thing he told him in person.

I agree he had to tell him the exact same thing, and probably a lot more, but did not share with the media. Again who cares about what the industry says accountability is part of being a professional paid athlete.

Those with an agenda or faux-fans of the Blues are the only ones who care. The rest of us understand professional sports.

Yep. This thread is hilarious. Oh...he was VERY critical of Snuggerud.
All he said when asked about his one shift was " "He wasn't skating tonight, wasn't checking. I didn't think it was his night."

It was to the point and answered the question. I've heard MUCH worse in interviews.

The team is 3-2-1. It's been SIX games.

I just watched the video and that is literally ALL he said! Hardly scathing criticism in my book. So those making a big deal of it either have an agenda or are the softest people around. Hell, maybe it’s both.