This Ohtani Game: Isn't this the most dominant single game performance ever in the history of any team sport?

[Bully4you]

Not really.
He and the Dodgers were given a grossly unfair advantage.
I suppose the corrupt Ohtani rule did however achieve the desired outcome.

Corrupt? Why? The rule would apply to another player that could pitch and hit as well. Do you have anyone in mind? Or is it corrupt because only player is capable of doing it.

I guess the NFL had a corrupt rule when "Jet Stream" Roy Green could play offense and defense in the same game.

Ohtani is an example of a true "unicorn".

It is a corrupt rule because it was put in place solely to drive revenue, gives one team an intentional lineup advantage over all others, forces 29 managers to manage a game one way and gives a free pass to the 30th, and makes equal competition a complete mockery.

Other teams can DH their pitchers.
No one stopping them.

No other team had a rule created to benefit just one player - and thereby benefit just that one team.

They didn't create the rule for Ohtani and the Dodgers.
The rule was a long time coming.
The same rule that was in the American League for how many years before Ohtani sir?
That's correct, this rule has been in effect in the American league forever now.
The American League could have used a pitcher to hit if they so choose to in the 80's, 90's, 2000's etc.
The rule wasn't made specifically for one team or guy.
It was modeled after the American League.

[OldRed]

Not really.
He and the Dodgers were given a grossly unfair advantage.
I suppose the corrupt Ohtani rule did however achieve the desired outcome.

Corrupt? Why? The rule would apply to another player that could pitch and hit as well. Do you have anyone in mind? Or is it corrupt because only player is capable of doing it.

I guess the NFL had a corrupt rule when "Jet Stream" Roy Green could play offense and defense in the same game.

Ohtani is an example of a true "unicorn".

It is a corrupt rule because it was put in place solely to drive revenue, gives one team an intentional lineup advantage over all others, forces 29 managers to manage a game one way and gives a free pass to the 30th, and makes equal competition a complete mockery.

Other teams can DH their pitchers.
No one stopping them.

No other team had a rule created to benefit just one player - and thereby benefit just that one team.

The DH substitution rule has an exception: If a starting pitcher started simultaneously as the designated hitter, that player will remain as DH to bat for his relievers after being replaced as pitcher, likewise remaining as starting pitcher if he was pinch hit or pinch run for by a bench player who had become the new designated hitter. The exception was added by MLB for the 2022 season

[Swuhgen]

Not really.
He and the Dodgers were given a grossly unfair advantage.
I suppose the corrupt Ohtani rule did however achieve the desired outcome.

lol.

It’s weird when people can’t acknowledge greatness.

[dugoutrex]

Not really.
He and the Dodgers were given a grossly unfair advantage.
I suppose the corrupt Ohtani rule did however achieve the desired outcome.

lol.

It’s weird when people can’t acknowledge greatness.

ME ville only acknowledges herself

[Melville]

Not really.
He and the Dodgers were given a grossly unfair advantage.
I suppose the corrupt Ohtani rule did however achieve the desired outcome.

Corrupt? Why? The rule would apply to another player that could pitch and hit as well. Do you have anyone in mind? Or is it corrupt because only player is capable of doing it.

I guess the NFL had a corrupt rule when "Jet Stream" Roy Green could play offense and defense in the same game.

Ohtani is an example of a true "unicorn".

It is a corrupt rule because it was put in place solely to drive revenue, gives one team an intentional lineup advantage over all others, forces 29 managers to manage a game one way and gives a free pass to the 30th, and makes equal competition a complete mockery.

Other teams can DH their pitchers.
No one stopping them.

No other team had a rule created to benefit just one player - and thereby benefit just that one team.

They didn't create the rule for Ohtani and the Dodgers.
The rule was a long time coming.
The same rule that was in the American League for how many years before Ohtani sir?
That's correct, this rule has been in effect in the American league forever now.
The American League could have used a pitcher to hit if they so choose to in the 80's, 90's, 2000's etc.
The rule wasn't made specifically for one team or guy.
It was modeled after the American League.

No, a pitcher removed from the mound could not have continued to hit.
That was changed solely to benefit Ohtani - and to keep the best player in MLB in the game for marketing purposes.
And last night it did exactly as designed.
Look at the marketing benefit from last night's game.

[Melville]

Not really.
He and the Dodgers were given a grossly unfair advantage.
I suppose the corrupt Ohtani rule did however achieve the desired outcome.

lol.

It’s weird when people can’t acknowledge greatness.

Might want to check your comprehension.
I have said repeatedly that Ohtani's is currently the game's best all-around player.
And that is EXACTLY why the rule was created to begin with.

[Bully4you]

Not really.
He and the Dodgers were given a grossly unfair advantage.
I suppose the corrupt Ohtani rule did however achieve the desired outcome.

Corrupt? Why? The rule would apply to another player that could pitch and hit as well. Do you have anyone in mind? Or is it corrupt because only player is capable of doing it.

I guess the NFL had a corrupt rule when "Jet Stream" Roy Green could play offense and defense in the same game.

Ohtani is an example of a true "unicorn".

It is a corrupt rule because it was put in place solely to drive revenue, gives one team an intentional lineup advantage over all others, forces 29 managers to manage a game one way and gives a free pass to the 30th, and makes equal competition a complete mockery.

Other teams can DH their pitchers.
No one stopping them.

No other team had a rule created to benefit just one player - and thereby benefit just that one team.

They didn't create the rule for Ohtani and the Dodgers.
The rule was a long time coming.
The same rule that was in the American League for how many years before Ohtani sir?
That's correct, this rule has been in effect in the American league forever now.
The American League could have used a pitcher to hit if they so choose to in the 80's, 90's, 2000's etc.
The rule wasn't made specifically for one team or guy.
It was modeled after the American League.

No, a pitcher removed from the mound could not have continued to hit.
That was changed solely to benefit Ohtani - and to keep the best player in MLB in the game for marketing purposes.
And last night it did exactly as designed.
Look at the marketing benefit from last night's game.

Oh, Okay.
I am wrong.
You are correct.
So, how many additional AB's did he get? 1 or 2.
Yeah, that's a bit fishy.
I didn't think it through well enough.
If he was pulled as pitcher, then he should have been out of the game.
I stand corrected.
Bully4you I say!!!!
So, you are most likely correct about this rule.
I don't like it either now.

[Ozziesfan41]

Not really.
He and the Dodgers were given a grossly unfair advantage.
I suppose the corrupt Ohtani rule did however achieve the desired outcome.

Corrupt? Why? The rule would apply to another player that could pitch and hit as well. Do you have anyone in mind? Or is it corrupt because only player is capable of doing it.

I guess the NFL had a corrupt rule when "Jet Stream" Roy Green could play offense and defense in the same game.

Ohtani is an example of a true "unicorn".

It is a corrupt rule because it was put in place solely to drive revenue, gives one team an intentional lineup advantage over all others, forces 29 managers to manage a game one way and gives a free pass to the 30th, and makes equal competition a complete mockery.

Other teams can DH their pitchers.
No one stopping them.

No other team had a rule created to benefit just one player - and thereby benefit just that one team.

They didn't create the rule for Ohtani and the Dodgers.
The rule was a long time coming.
The same rule that was in the American League for how many years before Ohtani sir?
That's correct, this rule has been in effect in the American league forever now.
The American League could have used a pitcher to hit if they so choose to in the 80's, 90's, 2000's etc.
The rule wasn't made specifically for one team or guy.
It was modeled after the American League.

No, a pitcher removed from the mound could not have continued to hit.
That was changed solely to benefit Ohtani - and to keep the best player in MLB in the game for marketing purposes.
And last night it did exactly as designed.
Look at the marketing benefit from last night's game.

Yea it’s pretty pathetic MLB changed the rules to benefit one team and one player. It would have made the dodgers decide do we start ohtani in order to get him on the mound and lose his bat later in the game or DH him and have to go to a lesser pitcher oh don’t worry MLB has the dodgers back to make sure they have the advantage and don’t have to worry about it

[Melville]

But he only went 6. A real man goes 9

Ha ha, you're singin' my tune. But it wasn't him, it's the wimpy management style of today's game. Alston, Lasorda, et al would have left him in to go 9 if he could. And there's a good chance he would have.

No, the Ohtani Rule is likely the only thing that took him out of the game at the moment he was lifted.
Think about the game sequence without bias or agenda - as I do in all things.
Ohtani pitched the beginning of the 7th of a 4-1 game, giving up a hit and a walk.
Potential tying run due up next.
Does Roberts take him out for a relief pitcher, knowing Ohtani (his best hitter is due to hit 2nd in the bottom of the inning)?
After all, given the game situation in that moment, they might need his bat later the same inning.
Or does he leave him in, facing the Brewers' lineup for a third time?
Tough choice.
Except of course, Roberts never has to make it.
He gets to remove Ohtani from the game AND leave Ohtani in the game.
Huge advantage designed specifically for Ohtani and the Dodgers - and completely unfair.
But there is more.
Because of one rule designed specifically to benefit Ohtani and the Dodgers, he hits a HR in the bottom of the 7th - making it a 5-1 game, a 4 run lead.
In the 8th inning, the Brewers again get the first 2 hitters on base.
Meaning, in a 3 run game (which would have been the case if Ohtani had been removed as every other player in baseball would have been), the Brewers would have had 3 consecutive chances to tie the game with a single swing.
That opportunity was denied them as well.
Complete corruption of the entire game.

[Melville]

Not really.
He and the Dodgers were given a grossly unfair advantage.
I suppose the corrupt Ohtani rule did however achieve the desired outcome.

Corrupt? Why? The rule would apply to another player that could pitch and hit as well. Do you have anyone in mind? Or is it corrupt because only player is capable of doing it.

I guess the NFL had a corrupt rule when "Jet Stream" Roy Green could play offense and defense in the same game.

Ohtani is an example of a true "unicorn".

It is a corrupt rule because it was put in place solely to drive revenue, gives one team an intentional lineup advantage over all others, forces 29 managers to manage a game one way and gives a free pass to the 30th, and makes equal competition a complete mockery.

Other teams can DH their pitchers.
No one stopping them.

No other team had a rule created to benefit just one player - and thereby benefit just that one team.

They didn't create the rule for Ohtani and the Dodgers.
The rule was a long time coming.
The same rule that was in the American League for how many years before Ohtani sir?
That's correct, this rule has been in effect in the American league forever now.
The American League could have used a pitcher to hit if they so choose to in the 80's, 90's, 2000's etc.
The rule wasn't made specifically for one team or guy.
It was modeled after the American League.

No, a pitcher removed from the mound could not have continued to hit.
That was changed solely to benefit Ohtani - and to keep the best player in MLB in the game for marketing purposes.
And last night it did exactly as designed.
Look at the marketing benefit from last night's game.

Yea it’s pretty pathetic MLB changed the rules to benefit one team and one player. It would have made the dodgers decide do we start ohtani in order to get him on the mound and lose his bat later in the game or DH him and have to go to a lesser pitcher oh don’t worry MLB has the dodgers back to make sure they have the advantage and don’t have to worry about it

Quality post on your part.
There is even more advantage to the Dodgers than what you correctly outlined above.
Would the Dodgers EVER bat Ohtani at leadoff if they knew that a relief pitcher would take over that spot in the batting order if Ohtani was lifted?
Of course not.
But due to the special rule designed to benefit just him and the Dodgers, he is able to leadoff the first inning with a HR, completely changing the game and giving his team a massive advantage in an elimination game.
The entire integrity of that game was corrupted from the very beginning.

[Melville]

It was truly a dominant baseball performance from both hitting and pitching perspective.
However if we are talking dominant single game performances in any sport I would choose Michael Jordan and the dozens of games he had in the playoffs, not to mention regular seasons. He dominated on both ends of the court and carried the entire teams on his back. People forget how great he was on defense.
There will never be an athlete to come close to him in my opinion.

John Riggins 1983 Super Bowl deserves a mention.
38 rushing attempts - still the record 42 years later.
166 rushing yards.
1 touchdown - a 43-yard run which won the game.
Also caught a pass for 15 yards.
His yards from scrimmage exceeded that of the entire Dolphins team.
He ran more plays himself than the Dolphins combined offense did in the entire game.
More impact by one player in a Super Bowl than any other I can recall.
Given that it was the Super Bowl, certainly more dominant single game performance than a preliminary round baseball game against a team who was down 0-3 and has all but surrendered.
And Riggins was not given a special rule designed to give only he an advantage.

[moose-and-squirrel]

he could have played defense and special teams in that game

wasn't anything stopping him from doing so

[Dicktar2023]

Yes.

It's more like what Bobby Fischer did to the Russians in 1972.

[LCA1951]

Not really.
He and the Dodgers were given a grossly unfair advantage.
I suppose the corrupt Ohtani rule did however achieve the desired outcome.

lol.

It’s weird when people can’t acknowledge greatness.

Might want to check your comprehension.
I have said repeatedly that Ohtani's is currently the game's best all-around player.
And that is EXACTLY why the rule was created to begin with.

Babe Ruth hit in games he pitch but Never did this and he is supposed to be the model

[blackinkbiz]

Not really.
He and the Dodgers were given a grossly unfair advantage.
I suppose the corrupt Ohtani rule did however achieve the desired outcome.

Corrupt? Why? The rule would apply to another player that could pitch and hit as well. Do you have anyone in mind? Or is it corrupt because only player is capable of doing it.

I guess the NFL had a corrupt rule when "Jet Stream" Roy Green could play offense and defense in the same game.

Ohtani is an example of a true "unicorn".

It is a corrupt rule because it was put in place solely to drive revenue, gives one team an intentional lineup advantage over all others, forces 29 managers to manage a game one way and gives a free pass to the 30th, and makes equal competition a complete mockery.

Other teams can DH their pitchers.
No one stopping them.

No other team had a rule created to benefit just one player - and thereby benefit just that one team.

They didn't create the rule for Ohtani and the Dodgers.
The rule was a long time coming.
The same rule that was in the American League for how many years before Ohtani sir?
That's correct, this rule has been in effect in the American league forever now.
The American League could have used a pitcher to hit if they so choose to in the 80's, 90's, 2000's etc.
The rule wasn't made specifically for one team or guy.
It was modeled after the American League.

No, a pitcher removed from the mound could not have continued to hit.
That was changed solely to benefit Ohtani - and to keep the best player in MLB in the game for marketing purposes.
And last night it did exactly as designed.
Look at the marketing benefit from last night's game.

Yea it’s pretty pathetic MLB changed the rules to benefit one team and one player. It would have made the dodgers decide do we start ohtani in order to get him on the mound and lose his bat later in the game or DH him and have to go to a lesser pitcher oh don’t worry MLB has the dodgers back to make sure they have the advantage and don’t have to worry about it

Quality post on your part.
There is even more advantage to the Dodgers than what you correctly outlined above.
Would the Dodgers EVER bat Ohtani at leadoff if they knew that a relief pitcher would take over that spot in the batting order if Ohtani was lifted?
Of course not.
But due to the special rule designed to benefit just him and the Dodgers, he is able to leadoff the first inning with a HR, completely changing the game and giving his team a massive advantage in an elimination game.
The entire integrity of that game was corrupted from the very beginning.

Except that, again, this rule doesn't apply only to Shohei Ohtani. If any other player has the ability to pitch 6 innings and be a valuable enough hitter to remain in the game as a DH after they've finished pitching, they're more than welcome to do so.

I absolutely loathe the F'n LA Deferrals and can't wait for a salary cap and floor, but blaming this option that EVERY PLAYER can take advantage of is just kinda... bleh

[Melville]

Not really.
He and the Dodgers were given a grossly unfair advantage.
I suppose the corrupt Ohtani rule did however achieve the desired outcome.

lol.

It’s weird when people can’t acknowledge greatness.

Might want to check your comprehension.
I have said repeatedly that Ohtani's is currently the game's best all-around player.
And that is EXACTLY why the rule was created to begin with.

Babe Ruth hit in games he pitch but Never did this and he is supposed to be the model

Ruth pitched a 14-inning complete game in the World Series (not merely a league playoff game), faced 48 hitters, threw 145 pitches, gave up 1 run, and won the game 2-1.
He pitched 13 scoreless innings after the first.
He also drove in one of the Red Sox 2 runs.
He was just 21 years old.
No player in WS history has ever come close to matching that in the last 109 years.
By the way, Ruth started 40 games that year, made 4 relief appearances, won 23 games, led the league in ERA (career best 1.75), record 23 complete games, produced 9 shutouts, pitched 323.2 innings with a miniscule 1.07 WHIP, and did not allow a single HR.
Ohtani is a great player.
He will never come close to what Ruth achieved in that season or in that 1 WS game.