Training Camp Thread

[WilliamWestcliffe]

I am really curious here how many of ya'll....as of now before camp....want Lucic on this team?

I am feeling I'm in the minority.

I'd like to see Lucic make the team. Not worried about the off ice issues. I think that he is in a good space now. We'll see if he can play anymore.

Yes. This team needs its Tom Wilson. Schenn can’t keep carrying that weight and our young kids need a sense of comfortability.

Unfortunately, the only player available to us that fits that mold is Lucic. So yes I hope he stills has the speed and ability to play minutes a few times a week. If he doesn’t, he doesn’t and that’s a missed opportunity for us.

As for his off ice issues, I don’t believe in cancelling someone. He deserves a second chance, but not a third.

[STL fan in MN]

I am really curious here how many of ya'll....as of now before camp....want Lucic on this team?

I am feeling I'm in the minority.

If he’s one of the best 14 options at forward then yes, I’d want him on the team. If he’s not one of the 14 best and they force him onto the team anyway then no, I wouldn’t like it.

That said, I doubt that happens. I’m interested to see how he measures up. We could certainly use the toughness element he brings.

[skilles]

I am really curious here how many of ya'll....as of now before camp....want Lucic on this team?

I am feeling I'm in the minority.

Would be pretty silly to have already made that decision IMO. What would a person base that opinion on?

Also it really makes not difference to me at all if he is here, I would only care how they used him vs others. It amazing me sometimes how caught up people get in guys that are just extra options.

I view it as a spot Skilles. And better suited elsewhere.

I'm sensing a good 'ol boy mentality here to put him on the roster.

That's just me.

If I'm wrong I'll be the first to admit it.

It kind of sounds like you are more concerned about coaching decisions

[JR1]

I went to Centene and caught one half hour of action. Here are a couple of things that I noticed. Kyrou looks a little heavier or bulkier. Holloway being back was a welcome sight. Carbonneau was pretty impressive speed wise and also shifty. Malloux can bring the heat with his shot and appears to be a really good skater. The prospect who stood out most to me was Stancl. He made a couple of good plays that impressed. I only got to watch group B and only for a half hour. The team looked fast and focused. I forgot to add that Tucker looked a lot slimmer.

[Harry York 37]

For the next folks who get the pleasure of attending Camp, I have a request. Do either or both of Jpseph and Texier look like they are aware their roster spots are on the line?
If they were rookies and had the same size and skill sets, they might not quit right away when the whistle blows.
And so on.

[Tony Palazzolo]

I am really curious here how many of ya'll....as of now before camp....want Lucic on this team?

I am feeling I'm in the minority.

If he’s one of the best 14 options at forward then yes, I’d want him on the team. If he’s not one of the 14 best and they force him onto the team anyway then no, I wouldn’t like it.

That said, I doubt that happens. I’m interested to see how he measures up. We could certainly use the toughness element he brings.

I wouldn't bet against him. The variable that hasn't been talked about was the 22 months sober. That would indicate he had a drinking problem while he was playing. You have to think that it affected his playing. A couple of years of healing up and getting healthy we might get a highly motivated player. If he gets it he's earned it. You know the Blues don't want to block young players.

[2forDiving]

Group B Lines:

Dvorsky-Suter-Kyrou
Holloway-Schenn-Carbonneau
Lucic-Peca-Toropchenko
Susuev-Stancl-Luff
Bitten-Dorion-Peterson

Fowler-Mailloux
Tucker-Parayko
Buchinger-Fischer
Schueneman-Skinner
Kehrer

Hofer
Zherenko
Cranley

Note- Neighbours out for personal reasons(speculation is a family friend passed away)
https://www.nhl.com/blues/news/neighbou ... ining-camp

Orca Wiesblat was killed last weekend and Jake is a close friend of both Orca and Ozzy

oh my god yeah Jake literally learned sign language so he could not leave his best friend's deaf mom out of their conversations. this is really painful for him I am sure

Very sad. I saw the tweet from the Calgary Hitmen but didn’t make the connection with Neighbours until they mentioned that both of Orca’s parents were deaf.

[Harry York 37]

Group B Lines:

Dvorsky-Suter-Kyrou
Holloway-Schenn-Carbonneau
Lucic-Peca-Toropchenko
Susuev-Stancl-Luff
Bitten-Dorion-Peterson

Fowler-Mailloux
Tucker-Parayko
Buchinger-Fischer
Schueneman-Skinner
Kehrer

Hofer
Zherenko
Cranley

Note- Neighbours out for personal reasons(speculation is a family friend passed away)
https://www.nhl.com/blues/news/neighbou ... ining-camp

Orca Wiesblat was killed last weekend and Jake is a close friend of both Orca and Ozzy

oh my god yeah Jake literally learned sign language so he could not leave his best friend's deaf mom out of their conversations. this is really painful for him I am sure

Very sad. I saw the tweet from the Calgary Hitmen but didn’t make the connection with Neighbours until they mentioned that both of Orca’s parents were deaf.

This is where Jake’s sign-language skills become magical gifts for them as he and their child’s good friends and teammates pay their respects. I am sure he is a blessing to them right now.

[STL fan in MN]

Group B Lines:

Dvorsky-Suter-Kyrou
Holloway-Schenn-Carbonneau
Lucic-Peca-Toropchenko
Susuev-Stancl-Luff
Bitten-Dorion-Peterson

Fowler-Mailloux
Tucker-Parayko
Buchinger-Fischer
Schueneman-Skinner
Kehrer

Hofer
Zherenko
Cranley

Note- Neighbours out for personal reasons(speculation is a family friend passed away)
https://www.nhl.com/blues/news/neighbou ... ining-camp

Orca Wiesblat was killed last weekend and Jake is a close friend of both Orca and Ozzy

oh my god yeah Jake literally learned sign language so he could not leave his best friend's deaf mom out of their conversations. this is really painful for him I am sure

Very sad. I saw the tweet from the Calgary Hitmen but didn’t make the connection with Neighbours until they mentioned that both of Orca’s parents were deaf.

This is where Jake’s sign-language skills become magical gifts for them as he and their child’s good friends and teammates pay their respects. I am sure he is a blessing to them right now.

Here’s an article on Neighbours and Ozzy Weisblatt from 5 years ago prior to the 2020 draft.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/17984 ... d_article

This local businessman, by all accounts, is a model citizen.

His name, a year ago, repeatedly pops up while a reporter is researching an inspirational story about the Wiesblatt family, five kids being raised by a single deaf mother in Calgary.

This is the recurring theme.

How the fellow is helping the Wiesblatts.

How he is a terrific influence on the four brothers.

Says one acquaintance: “He’s probably the best thing that could ever happen to the family. His mind is in the right spot. Takes care of the boys. Drives them to workouts. Takes them everywhere.”

Blurts another: “He has frickin’ been humongous … a huge saviour.”

Heartening stuff to hear. And it becomes glaringly obvious that this must be the next stop on the interview train. Tracking down this good soul, co-owner of a profitable car-detailing company, should be fairly easy.

Probably a big-hearted hockey dad. Some well-known pillar of the community.

As it turns out?

The hero is a 17-year-old boy named Jake Neighbours.

“I’m just super lucky to have a friend like him,” said Ozzy Wiesblatt. “I think our relationship will last a lifetime. It’s a pretty special thing.”

[seattleblue]

Group B Lines:

Dvorsky-Suter-Kyrou
Holloway-Schenn-Carbonneau
Lucic-Peca-Toropchenko
Susuev-Stancl-Luff
Bitten-Dorion-Peterson

Fowler-Mailloux
Tucker-Parayko
Buchinger-Fischer
Schueneman-Skinner
Kehrer

Hofer
Zherenko
Cranley

Note- Neighbours out for personal reasons(speculation is a family friend passed away)
https://www.nhl.com/blues/news/neighbou ... ining-camp

Orca Wiesblat was killed last weekend and Jake is a close friend of both Orca and Ozzy

oh my god yeah Jake literally learned sign language so he could not leave his best friend's deaf mom out of their conversations. this is really painful for him I am sure

Very sad. I saw the tweet from the Calgary Hitmen but didn’t make the connection with Neighbours until they mentioned that both of Orca’s parents were deaf.

This is where Jake’s sign-language skills become magical gifts for them as he and their child’s good friends and teammates pay their respects. I am sure he is a blessing to them right now.

Here’s an article on Neighbours and Ozzy Weisblatt from 5 years ago prior to the 2020 draft.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/17984 ... d_article

This local businessman, by all accounts, is a model citizen.

His name, a year ago, repeatedly pops up while a reporter is researching an inspirational story about the Wiesblatt family, five kids being raised by a single deaf mother in Calgary.

This is the recurring theme.

How the fellow is helping the Wiesblatts.

How he is a terrific influence on the four brothers.

Says one acquaintance: “He’s probably the best thing that could ever happen to the family. His mind is in the right spot. Takes care of the boys. Drives them to workouts. Takes them everywhere.”

Blurts another: “He has frickin’ been humongous … a huge saviour.”

Heartening stuff to hear. And it becomes glaringly obvious that this must be the next stop on the interview train. Tracking down this good soul, co-owner of a profitable car-detailing company, should be fairly easy.

Probably a big-hearted hockey dad. Some well-known pillar of the community.

As it turns out?

The hero is a 17-year-old boy named Jake Neighbours.

“I’m just super lucky to have a friend like him,” said Ozzy Wiesblatt. “I think our relationship will last a lifetime. It’s a pretty special thing.”

This is why I say he is untouchable on the roster. We are lucky to have this human being wear the Blue note and go to the net like he does. He should be the next captain

[Pierre McGuire]

I am really curious here how many of ya'll....as of now before camp....want Lucic on this team?

I am feeling I'm in the minority.

I like toughness element Lucic brings so as long as he has a good camp I’m all for it. I hope he makes it. Also love that it puts fear in some of the other fringe guys and they will realize they need to bring it during camp.
Also on the Cam and Strick interview, he looked focused and healthy. He’s gonna go balls out for sure

[theograce]

This is why I say he is untouchable on the roster. We are lucky to have this human being wear the Blue note and go to the net like he does. He should be the next captain

His friend told me that when they were growing up people would always ask him what is his backup plan was if hockey didn’t work out.

He’d always say “nothing…I’m playing in the NHL.” Said he never heard him say anything different.

[zamadoo]

And Im still penciling Schenn in as the 2C i dont see Monty pushing Schenn down the line up both as kind of respect and Schenn is a helluva hockery player still. Hes played in all 82 games three years in a row, hes always up there around 180 Hits, 50 pts. I dont think the Top 6 varies much from last year so that pushes a lot guys down to a few spots.

I think it's very interesting that they have Kyrou and Holloway split up for practice.
Holloway is with Schenn.
Kyrou is with Suter.

Not sure which way that center battle ends right now but it's clearly a direct competition.

This is interesting considering they seem to go with pairs for lines. IMO, Holloway was the clear driver of that line last year, not Kyrou, and they could put Buch or Neighbours or even Dvo there and have success. I also think Holloway and Schenn play a similar straight line/get it deep/to the net style.

Buch talked in his interview about how one guy is the one designated to do some of the grinder work on the line, and he had to do that a lot last year (and is that guy with Kyrou on the line) - so I wonder if it's Snuggerudd (who said he was working on board play) who will assume that role, or if they'll switch up lines and move Neighbours up there to do that, or move Snugg down.

Suter-Kyrou makes sense to me. Army said after the signing that Suter could play on the 2nd line between Holloway/Kyrou, but to me he could certainly be the defensive-minded center Kyrou needs to just do his thing. Oh man this just popped in my head: Lucic-Suter-Kyrou

[MikoTython]

I am really curious here how many of ya'll....as of now before camp....want Lucic on this team?

I am feeling I'm in the minority.

If he’s one of the best 14 options at forward then yes, I’d want him on the team. If he’s not one of the 14 best and they force him onto the team anyway then no, I wouldn’t like it.

That said, I doubt that happens. I’m interested to see how he measures up. We could certainly use the toughness element he brings.

I wouldn't bet against him. The variable that hasn't been talked about was the 22 months sober. That would indicate he had a drinking problem while he was playing. You have to think that it affected his playing. A couple of years of healing up and getting healthy we might get a highly motivated player. If he gets it he's earned it. You know the Blues don't want to block young players.

That is another way of looking at it. He might have another gear available, now that he’s not playing impaired. Will be interesting. DA had, I thought, a lot to say about him. Tbh, I’m biased in his favor.

[Bluesfan1978]

I went to Centene and caught one half hour of action. Here are a couple of things that I noticed. Kyrou looks a little heavier or bulkier. Holloway being back was a welcome sight. Carbonneau was pretty impressive speed wise and also shifty. Malloux can bring the heat with his shot and appears to be a really good skater. The prospect who stood out most to me was Stancl. He made a couple of good plays that impressed. I only got to watch group B and only for a half hour. The team looked fast and focused. I forgot to add that Tucker looked a lot slimmer.

Kyrou, Tucker, Alexandrov and Binner all worked out with Matt Nichols company this summer. Kyrou has been there the last two years.

[b-a-a-a-rclay]

It's one day, but yeah, Tucker looked noticeably better to me yesterday than he did a year ago at this time.