Burleson is a star

[Mort Gage]

Nice to see him overcome his difficulties vs LHP.

My hands up but, well............maybe we should look at a larger sample size.......say his career vs LHP:

6 HR
.235 .266 .338 .605

Don't look back, I say . Want have you done today, life of a ball player and commissioned salesmen.

S. Paige:

"Don't look back, something may be gaining on you"!

I hope he keeps it RS, would make him a regular but at what position (DH, OF -2 DRS/-3 OAA, 1B is Willy C's)?

All I know is he one of the few I pay attention to, when he comes to bat. Pure hitter is his game.

Burleson is usually fun to watch bat for that reason, indeed.

Pure hitter? If your point is that Burley has little value but his bat, then fine, but if taken out of context, I'd almost sounds like you are talking about Ted Williams.

Ted Williams, Tony Gwynn and then Joey Votto were Shady's comps over the years. When he uses "Pure Hitter", he doesn't know what that means. Keep in mind, he made these claims well before he ever saw Burleson in an actual game. He's box-score whisperer. He claimed Burleson was a speedster and tried comparing him to Tommy Edman. And that Burleson was athletic enough to play 2B (he didn't know he was Lefthanded)

"He claimed Burleson was a speedster and tried comparing him to Tommy Edman. And that Burleson was athletic enough to play 2B (he didn't know he was Lefthanded)". You continue to "lie like a rug". You need to refrain from your contemptuous attempts to salvage credibility by lying about my previous claims. The issue is the fact that I saw Burleson as an emerging hitting talent long ago. I posted it. And you blindly disputed that. Who looks to be more accurate in their projection on Burleson right now? You are far from a baseball GURU.

Lying?

I'm not the only one who was there for those claims.

You know this.

You've said a million times you say stupid things all the time. We're not supposed to listen to you, remember? These are your words

Yes, you are a pathological liar. I told you Burleson's play would make your lame criticism of him look like a fool this season like it did last season. Chalk another "right on" up for ole' Shady. Your specialty is being a reporter of the minor league games and giving lineups. Stick to that.

Craviduce adds tremendous value to the board with his minor league evals, GDTs, etc. You are a compulsively lying old fart who slobbbers over a handful of players and annoys most posters here. I won't even go into your pathetic history of creating sock handles to agree with yourself. Stick to your inflatables.

You are a lying, fantasizing fool yourself. Particularly, about accusing me of being racist. It seems there's, actually, some reverse racism coming you, Back to "Add foe" for you, jerk.

The 78th time I've been added to your Foe list. I guess I'll just have to deal with the reverse racism coming me, whatever that means. My offer to send a message from you to anyone on The Cardinal Nation, who wisely permanently banned you, stands.

[CorneliusWolfe]

Helluva game.

The dude can hit!

Shady is pulling an all-nighter drafting and re-editing this same post and you go and steal his thunder?? Not cool man.

That's brilliant. Start the daily Burly thread before Shady can get there.

Terrific that Burleson is increasing his perceived value. It should maximize the return when they trade him this off season.

Of course, Cardinal stupidity may continue well after Mo leaves. They probably are working on a 7 year extension for Burly right now.

"They probably are working on a 7 year extension for Burly right now". If Burleson continues to produce next season. Especially, if he shows continued progress. Maybe the Cardinals should consider a five year extension taking him through his prime years.

Sorry Shady, haven’t you heard Mo is retiring? The era of worst possible dumb (donkey) signings is over.

[CorneliusWolfe]

I'd comp Burleson to J. Naylor who's also played 1st base & the OF:

Naylor age 23-26
1347 PA's
45 HR
203 RBI
18 SB's
.274 .326 .446 .772
115 OPS+

Burly age 23-26
1455 PA's
46 HR
177 RBI
18 SB's
.267 .318 .421 .738
105 OPS+

Finally a REASONABLE comp for Burleson!

Kruk? JD Martinez? BERKMAN?…this thread reeks of a fan base so desperate for a superstar where there is none so they just make one up.

[Shady]

Shady touted Burly when he was hitting well over 300 in the minors. He went out on no limb. Shady sucks

And you are an "Add foe".

[ClassicO]

Would anyone pass on Babe Ruth or Tony Gwynn because they were fat?

Yes

And neither Ruth nor Gwynn were fat when they were Burly’s age.
Look at some photos
Gwynn at age 27 https://www.ebay.com/itm/296208181650
Babe around age 26 https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news ... /517721762

[Shady]

Would anyone pass on Babe Ruth or Tony Gwynn because they were fat?

Yes

And neither Ruth nor Gwynn were fat when they were Burly’s age.
Look at some photos
Gwynn at age 27 https://www.ebay.com/itm/296208181650
Babe around age 26 https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news ... /517721762

Anybody that considers Burleson fat is just looking for something to gripe about. Probably because he's making them look like a fool for their past shortsighted [nonsense] about him not being MLB worthy.

[Lloyd Braun]

No doubt he is proving to be a true major league hitter. Every part of him, including physique, continues to remind me of Burkman. Always puts the bat on the ball, can go with the pitch, and showing decent power.

I've been calling him Baby Berkman since last year. If he can get into that 30 homer territory, he could be Burley Berkman. Breath of fresh air, in a league full of .230 hitters.

LoL..no. just no.

Why are you denigrating how great Berkman was

I'm not. I am calling him Baby Berkman, which means a lesser version.

[3dender]

Would anyone pass on Babe Ruth or Tony Gwynn because they were fat?

Yes

And neither Ruth nor Gwynn were fat when they were Burly’s age.
Look at some photos
Gwynn at age 27 https://www.ebay.com/itm/296208181650
Babe around age 26 https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news ... /517721762

Anybody that considers Burleson fat is just looking for something to gripe about. Probably because he's making them look like a fool for their past shortsighted [nonsense] about him not being MLB worthy.

He's got a paunch under his chin at age 26 that's bigger than mine which only developed in my 40s.

[ecleme22]

No doubt he is proving to be a true major league hitter. Every part of him, including physique, continues to remind me of Burkman. Always puts the bat on the ball, can go with the pitch, and showing decent power.

I've been calling him Baby Berkman since last year. If he can get into that 30 homer territory, he could be Burley Berkman. Breath of fresh air, in a league full of .230 hitters.

LoL..no. just no.

Why are you denigrating how great Berkman was

I'm not. I am calling him Baby Berkman, which means a lesser version.

Berkman had a walk rate of 15.4

Berkman had a down year in 2010 that made it possible for the cardinals to get him on a one year deal.

His OPS during this bad year: .781

Burleson’s OPS during this amazing breakout year: .799


He’s nothing like Berkman.

[rockondlouie]

Chip said last night mid game the Burleson was one of five MLB players that have hit 270+ against both left handed pitching and right handed pitching. That makes him elite in 2025 season. The guy can hit.

Then of course all the folks that said he couldn't hit lefthanders raise your hands.

Nice to see him overcome his difficulties vs LHP.

My hands up but, well............maybe we should look at a larger sample size.......say his career vs LHP:

6 HR
.235 .266 .338 .605

Don't look back, I say . Want have you done today, life of a ball player and commissioned salesmen.

S. Paige:

"Don't look back, something may be gaining on you"!

I hope he keeps it RS, would make him a regular but at what position (DH, OF -2 DRS/-3 OAA, 1B is Willy C's)?

All I know is he one of the few I pay attention to, when he comes to bat. Pure hitter is his game.

Just wish he had a position, other than DH/1B, in the field.

He's a liability in the OF.

[rockondlouie]

I'd comp Burleson to J. Naylor who's also played 1st base & the OF:

Naylor age 23-26
1347 PA's
45 HR
203 RBI
18 SB's
.274 .326 .446 .772
115 OPS+

Burly age 23-26
1455 PA's
46 HR
177 RBI
18 SB's
.267 .318 .421 .738
105 OPS+

Finally a REASONABLE comp for Burleson!

Kruk? JD Martinez? BERKMAN?…this thread reeks of a fan base so desperate for a superstar where there is none so they just make one up.

Thx CW

And you're spot on.

The fan base is so desperate for a "star" player(s) they've elevated guys like Burly and Winn to levels neither has attained.

There are no star players on this current roster.

[RunSup]

Admittedly haven't read this entire thread. But, Burleson is absolutely NOT a star. He's literally a one-trick pony, and it's not even an elite trick. He's a fine enough hitter with some power, little defensive value and the speed of a paralyzed sloth

+1

[RunSup]

Burleson is a good hitter -- probably a bit better than i thought he would be and maybe the top 1 or 2 hitters on this team. That in itself is the problem, he needs to be the 4th or 5th best hitter on the team. He isn't a star he is a strong complimentary player who really can't play defense.

+1

If they convince WC to waive his NTC, they can put Burleson at 1B. Otherwise he's peaking right now and the smart move would be to trade him.

Maybe Bloom will actually notice the starting pitching staff this off season.

[Lloyd Braun]

No doubt he is proving to be a true major league hitter. Every part of him, including physique, continues to remind me of Burkman. Always puts the bat on the ball, can go with the pitch, and showing decent power.

I've been calling him Baby Berkman since last year. If he can get into that 30 homer territory, he could be Burley Berkman. Breath of fresh air, in a league full of .230 hitters.

LoL..no. just no.

Why are you denigrating how great Berkman was

I'm not. I am calling him Baby Berkman, which means a lesser version.

Berkman had a walk rate of 15.4

Berkman had a down year in 2010 that made it possible for the cardinals to get him on a one year deal.

His OPS during this bad year: .781

Burleson’s OPS during this amazing breakout year: .799


He’s nothing like Berkman.

This is not an amazing breakout year, he's only got a .799 OPS. You really come up with some F'd up thoughts.

[3dender]

Burleson is a good hitter -- probably a bit better than i thought he would be and maybe the top 1 or 2 hitters on this team. That in itself is the problem, he needs to be the 4th or 5th best hitter on the team. He isn't a star he is a strong complimentary player who really can't play defense.

+1

If they convince WC to waive his NTC, they can put Burleson at 1B. Otherwise he's peaking right now and the smart move would be to trade him.

Maybe Bloom will actually notice the starting pitching staff this off season.

And when you factor in that WC is the team's best RH bat (and one of only 2 decent ones), and that Burly probably returns significantly more on the trade market... well the path forward seems pretty clear.

[ecleme22]

No doubt he is proving to be a true major league hitter. Every part of him, including physique, continues to remind me of Burkman. Always puts the bat on the ball, can go with the pitch, and showing decent power.

I've been calling him Baby Berkman since last year. If he can get into that 30 homer territory, he could be Burley Berkman. Breath of fresh air, in a league full of .230 hitters.

LoL..no. just no.

Why are you denigrating how great Berkman was

I'm not. I am calling him Baby Berkman, which means a lesser version.

Berkman had a walk rate of 15.4

Berkman had a down year in 2010 that made it possible for the cardinals to get him on a one year deal.

His OPS during this bad year: .781

Burleson’s OPS during this amazing breakout year: .799


He’s nothing like Berkman.

This is not an amazing breakout year, he's only got a .799 OPS. You really come up with some F'd up thoughts.

Oh this isn't Burleson's amazing breakout year? Cool. Let's call it his 2nd full year, argubably his 3rd full year since his 2023 saw him have 347 PA before a late season injury.

Berkman's first 10 FULL years, he never had an OPS under .896, never had an OBP under .386, and in six of those seasons, his OPS was at least .949.

"Hey, that Burleson sure is a baby Berkman, ain't he?"

Burleson isn't even a Baby Allen Craig...