This is what has contributed the most to the Cardinals downfall

[Adam2]

They misjudged the caliber of starting pitching talent needed. And how many are needed to really be competitive over the course of a season.

or...

They suffered immense injuries to their starting depth all the way through AAA

or...

your expectations aren't inline with what the organization said coming into this season...."we're rebuilding/resetting"

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But good try.

Early on, I posted that the Cardinals starting pitching was suspect. Did you not agree with that?

early on, everyone said they were "suspect"

Wait a minute....are you saying his questioning of the rotation wasn’t an epiphany????

You guys aren't going to believe this but I also said it was suspect. I guess shady and I are thinking alike. Great minds!

Apparently, Mo didn't feel the starting pitching was suspect.

All teams have holes/needs.
Recognizing them is the easy part. Correcting them not so easy.
Promoting from within works best.
Unfortunately there has been a talent gap in the system.
Hopefully now with Mathews, Roby, Hence, Doyle, Franklin, etc looming that will change heading into 2026?
You can possibly trade from some position player depth?
Free Agency is always an option but sinking big $$ in pitching is always risky with the chance of injuries.
And the Cards are NOT the Dodgers or Yankees when it comes to revenue.

Good, sensible post.

Thanks just an opinion.
I think we have to be patient.
Many on here preach “rebuilding” but expect it to happen overnight.
How long did it take to build Rome????

A day

[Cusecards]

They misjudged the caliber of starting pitching talent needed. And how many are needed to really be competitive over the course of a season.

or...

They suffered immense injuries to their starting depth all the way through AAA

or...

your expectations aren't inline with what the organization said coming into this season...."we're rebuilding/resetting"

------

But good try.

Early on, I posted that the Cardinals starting pitching was suspect. Did you not agree with that?

early on, everyone said they were "suspect"

Wait a minute....are you saying his questioning of the rotation wasn’t an epiphany????

You guys aren't going to believe this but I also said it was suspect. I guess shady and I are thinking alike. Great minds!

Apparently, Mo didn't feel the starting pitching was suspect.

All teams have holes/needs.
Recognizing them is the easy part. Correcting them not so easy.
Promoting from within works best.
Unfortunately there has been a talent gap in the system.
Hopefully now with Mathews, Roby, Hence, Doyle, Franklin, etc looming that will change heading into 2026?
You can possibly trade from some position player depth?
Free Agency is always an option but sinking big $$ in pitching is always risky with the chance of injuries.
And the Cards are NOT the Dodgers or Yankees when it comes to revenue.

Good, sensible post.

Thanks just an opinion.
I think we have to be patient.
Many on here preach “rebuilding” but expect it to happen overnight.
How long did it take to build Rome????

A day

[sdaltons]

They misjudged the caliber of starting pitching talent needed. And how many are needed to really be competitive over the course of a season.

or...

They suffered immense injuries to their starting depth all the way through AAA

or...

your expectations aren't inline with what the organization said coming into this season...."we're rebuilding/resetting"

------

But good try.

Early on, I posted that the Cardinals starting pitching was suspect. Did you not agree with that?

early on, everyone said they were "suspect"

Wait a minute....are you saying his questioning of the rotation wasn’t an epiphany????

You guys aren't going to believe this but I also said it was suspect. I guess shady and I are thinking alike. Great minds!

Apparently, Mo didn't feel the starting pitching was suspect.

All teams have holes/needs.
Recognizing them is the easy part. Correcting them not so easy.
Promoting from within works best.
Unfortunately there has been a talent gap in the system.
Hopefully now with Mathews, Roby, Hence, Doyle, Franklin, etc looming that will change heading into 2026?
You can possibly trade from some position player depth?
Free Agency is always an option but sinking big $$ in pitching is always risky with the chance of injuries.
And the Cards are NOT the Dodgers or Yankees when it comes to revenue.

Good, sensible post.

Thanks just an opinion.
I think we have to be patient.
Many on here preach “rebuilding” but expect it to happen overnight.
How long did it take to build Rome????

A day

I bet you got that from AI

[dugoutrex]

maybe we can blame it on the DH