Herrera. I warned about this.

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Ozziesfan41
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Re: Herrera. I warned about this.

Post by Ozziesfan41 »

Goldfan wrote: 22 Jul 2025 20:43 pm Who knows if he’s really healthy
People said the same thing when he slumped earlier then he heated up and they shut up. He will heat up again after he shakes the rust off again and they will shut up again
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Re: Herrera. I warned about this.

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Absolut wrote: 22 Jul 2025 20:18 pm
Melville wrote: 22 Jul 2025 20:14 pm Zero XBH's in 23 PA's.
4 XBH's in 68 PA's last month.
4 XBH's in his last 91 PA's.
2 doubles in his last 35 games.
Ugly.
Some declared him a middle order bat.
I warned against that thinking.
Said he could very well be a high BA, high OBP guy - but no evidence that he can become a middle order producer.
My advice?
Keep reading.
Keep learning.
Plenty of pump the brakes posts. You’re the only one blowing your own horn. You type well one handed.
:lol:

Awesome
Cusecards
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Re: Herrera. I warned about this.

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ClassicO wrote: 22 Jul 2025 20:39 pm
Cusecards wrote: 22 Jul 2025 20:34 pm
Melville wrote: 22 Jul 2025 20:29 pm
Cusecards wrote: 22 Jul 2025 20:24 pm
Absolut wrote: 22 Jul 2025 20:18 pm
Melville wrote: 22 Jul 2025 20:14 pm Zero XBH's in 23 PA's.
4 XBH's in 68 PA's last month.
4 XBH's in his last 91 PA's.
2 doubles in his last 35 games.
Ugly.
Some declared him a middle order bat.
I warned against that thinking.
Said he could very well be a high BA, high OBP guy - but no evidence that he can become a middle order producer.
My advice?
Keep reading.
Keep learning.
Plenty of pump the brakes posts. You’re the only one blowing your own horn. You type well one handed.
I’ve always wondered if he’s ambidextrous???
I am.
Type with one hand.
With the other, I direct the orchestra.
LMFAO
You need new material Sideshow!
And besides being pompous you’re a complete fraud.
How are your trainees doing??
BTW....we all KNOW what the other hand is doing while you’re typing!😉
Wow. I sent mine and you were right with me Cuse. Obviously and correct!
Minds think alike!
That’s our Sideshow Clown.
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Plenty of pump the brakes posts. You’re the only one blowing your own horn. You type well one handed.
😂
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Re: Herrera. I warned about this.

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Melville wrote: 22 Jul 2025 20:29 pm
Cusecards wrote: 22 Jul 2025 20:24 pm
Absolut wrote: 22 Jul 2025 20:18 pm
Melville wrote: 22 Jul 2025 20:14 pm Zero XBH's in 23 PA's.
4 XBH's in 68 PA's last month.
4 XBH's in his last 91 PA's.
2 doubles in his last 35 games.
Ugly.
Some declared him a middle order bat.
I warned against that thinking.
Said he could very well be a high BA, high OBP guy - but no evidence that he can become a middle order producer.
My advice?
Keep reading.
Keep learning.
Plenty of pump the brakes posts. You’re the only one blowing your own horn. You type well one handed.
I’ve always wondered if he’s ambidextrous???
I am.
Type with one hand.
With the other, I direct the orchestra.
You named yours “the orchestra?”
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Re: Herrera. I warned about this.

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Melville wrote: 22 Jul 2025 20:14 pm Zero XBH's in 23 PA's.
4 XBH's in 68 PA's last month.
4 XBH's in his last 91 PA's.
2 doubles in his last 35 games.
Ugly.
Some declared him a middle order bat.
I warned against that thinking.
Said he could very well be a high BA, high OBP guy - but no evidence that he can become a middle order producer.
My advice?
Keep reading.
Keep learning.
Nothing wrong with high BA and high OBP. Cards need a couple guys that can move him around and drive him in. :roll:
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Re: Herrera. I warned about this.

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ClassicO wrote: 22 Jul 2025 21:11 pm
Melville wrote: 22 Jul 2025 20:29 pm
Cusecards wrote: 22 Jul 2025 20:24 pm
Absolut wrote: 22 Jul 2025 20:18 pm
Melville wrote: 22 Jul 2025 20:14 pm Zero XBH's in 23 PA's.
4 XBH's in 68 PA's last month.
4 XBH's in his last 91 PA's.
2 doubles in his last 35 games.
Ugly.
Some declared him a middle order bat.
I warned against that thinking.
Said he could very well be a high BA, high OBP guy - but no evidence that he can become a middle order producer.
My advice?
Keep reading.
Keep learning.
Plenty of pump the brakes posts. You’re the only one blowing your own horn. You type well one handed.
I’ve always wondered if he’s ambidextrous???
I am.
Type with one hand.
With the other, I direct the orchestra.
You named yours “the orchestra?”
lol good one
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He has slider bat speed and he can’t lay off inside fastball and rolls out way too much

He’s a better breaking ball hitter frankly, likes that ball down and drive it
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Goldfan wrote: 22 Jul 2025 20:43 pm Who knows if he’s really healthy
4 XBH's in 68 PA's last month.
Healthy then.
And yes, obviously healthy now.
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Re: Herrera. I warned about this.

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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 22 Jul 2025 21:16 pm
ClassicO wrote: 22 Jul 2025 21:11 pm
Melville wrote: 22 Jul 2025 20:29 pm
Cusecards wrote: 22 Jul 2025 20:24 pm
Absolut wrote: 22 Jul 2025 20:18 pm
Melville wrote: 22 Jul 2025 20:14 pm Zero XBH's in 23 PA's.
4 XBH's in 68 PA's last month.
4 XBH's in his last 91 PA's.
2 doubles in his last 35 games.
Ugly.
Some declared him a middle order bat.
I warned against that thinking.
Said he could very well be a high BA, high OBP guy - but no evidence that he can become a middle order producer.
My advice?
Keep reading.
Keep learning.
Plenty of pump the brakes posts. You’re the only one blowing your own horn. You type well one handed.
I’ve always wondered if he’s ambidextrous???
I am.
Type with one hand.
With the other, I direct the orchestra.
You named yours “the orchestra?”
lol good one
Yes good one! LOL
And he “directs” with his own home grown baton!
Ozziesfan41
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Re: Herrera. I warned about this.

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Cusecards wrote: 22 Jul 2025 22:15 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 22 Jul 2025 21:16 pm
ClassicO wrote: 22 Jul 2025 21:11 pm
Melville wrote: 22 Jul 2025 20:29 pm
Cusecards wrote: 22 Jul 2025 20:24 pm
Absolut wrote: 22 Jul 2025 20:18 pm
Melville wrote: 22 Jul 2025 20:14 pm Zero XBH's in 23 PA's.
4 XBH's in 68 PA's last month.
4 XBH's in his last 91 PA's.
2 doubles in his last 35 games.
Ugly.
Some declared him a middle order bat.
I warned against that thinking.
Said he could very well be a high BA, high OBP guy - but no evidence that he can become a middle order producer.
My advice?
Keep reading.
Keep learning.
Plenty of pump the brakes posts. You’re the only one blowing your own horn. You type well one handed.
I’ve always wondered if he’s ambidextrous???
I am.
Type with one hand.
With the other, I direct the orchestra.
You named yours “the orchestra?”
lol good one
Yes good one! LOL
And he “directs” with his own home grown baton!
lol
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Re: Herrera. I warned about this.

Post by Melville »

Ozziesfan41 wrote: 22 Jul 2025 20:47 pm
Goldfan wrote: 22 Jul 2025 20:43 pm Who knows if he’s really healthy
People said the same thing when he slumped earlier then he heated up and they shut up. He will heat up again after he shakes the rust off again and they will shut up again
523 career PA's.
36 XBH's.
As for as power is concerned, that is an awfully long "slump".
Again, facts are facts.
Career BA over .290.
Career OBP in the .360's.
Very little power.
As I said, very good chance he is a high BA / high OBP MLB hitter.
But he is not the middle order RH power bat nearly everyone here believed several weeks ago.
They were fooled.
I was not.
But, that is what happens when facts are examined without bias and without agenda.
It is critically important for this organization to expect players to be who they are - and not attempt to force them to become someone they are not.
Failing that basic task time after time after time is precisely why the organization is in its current condition.
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A MOB?

The standards have fallen off a cliff with fans and the organization.

The only player that remotely qualifies is Contreras.
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Post by ClassicO »

Melville wrote: 22 Jul 2025 22:10 pm
Goldfan wrote: 22 Jul 2025 20:43 pm Who knows if he’s really healthy
4 XBH's in 68 PA's last month.
Healthy then.
And yes, obviously healthy now.
You've been playing with your Orchestra too much. On July 11, you bragged about advocating playing Herrera in the OF: "Stunning it took the team's 'leadership' this long to see the obvious." You agreed with Rockon that he could be "our power-hitting left fielder."

You fail to understand that your posts are in the system.
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11WSChamps wrote: 22 Jul 2025 22:22 pm A MOB?

The standards have fallen off a cliff with fans and the organization.

The only player that remotely qualifies is Contreras.
Correct.
Weird how folks object when truth is told.
Losing 4 out of 5 will do that.
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Re: Herrera. I warned about this.

Post by Ozziesfan41 »

Melville wrote: 22 Jul 2025 22:19 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 22 Jul 2025 20:47 pm
Goldfan wrote: 22 Jul 2025 20:43 pm Who knows if he’s really healthy
People said the same thing when he slumped earlier then he heated up and they shut up. He will heat up again after he shakes the rust off again and they will shut up again
523 career PA's.
36 XBH's.
As for as power is concerned, that is an awfully long "slump".
Again, facts are facts.
Career BA over .290.
Career OBP in the .360's.
Very little power.
As I said, very good chance he is a high BA / high OBP MLB hitter.
But he is not the middle order RH power bat nearly everyone here believed several weeks ago.
They were fooled.
I was not.
But, that is what happens when facts are examined without bias and without agenda.
It is critically important for this organization to expect players to be who they are - and not attempt to force them to become someone they are not.
Failing that basic task time after time after time is precisely why the organization is in its current condition.
In case the glaringly obvious has escaped your notice he doesn’t bat in the middle of the order he hits second where he came into the game batting .316 with a .381 OBP
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