Any chance Doyle starts out at AA?
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Any chance Doyle starts out at AA?
Just to see how he does at that level. That would be exciting to see. I've heard that AA is fairly comparable to the highest level of D1.
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Double AA was previously mentioned in scuttlebutt as some think there is likelihood that Doyle may be promoted to The Show sometime in 2026.
Bloom won't keep this kid down on the farm very long in 2026.
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Haven’t you heard. He is going straight to the bigs and they are giving him a red jacket.
Let’s stop pushing these kids too fast.
Let’s stop pushing these kids too fast.
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Re: Any chance Doyle starts out at AA?
I bet he already has a mannequin with a taped on Doyle face sitting next to him on the couch.
Re: Any chance Doyle starts out at AA?
you guys realize that he's probably not pitching again until Spring Training?..... strong probably. We haven't thrown a significant starter in the minors after the draft since 2021...and that was Graceffo for around 9 relief innings in Palm Beach.
Hagen Smith got 3 innings in the last week of the season in 2024 at A ball. Burns didn't throw again until the following spring. Our top two pitchers from last years draft Thompson and Davis didn't throw last year.
Wait until spring, see how they do in camp then let the Peoria vs. Springfield debate begin.
Outside chance he gets a few innings late in the season, but not likely. He hasn't thrown since June 6th.
Hagen Smith got 3 innings in the last week of the season in 2024 at A ball. Burns didn't throw again until the following spring. Our top two pitchers from last years draft Thompson and Davis didn't throw last year.
Wait until spring, see how they do in camp then let the Peoria vs. Springfield debate begin.
Outside chance he gets a few innings late in the season, but not likely. He hasn't thrown since June 6th.
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It would not surprise me if he is not up next year. So many factors to consider. No idea where he starts. Honestly there is no rush at this point. Let’s not create another Walker.
Re: Any chance Doyle starts out at AA?
Another function of the gutting of the low minors and the moving of the draft to the ASG.craviduce wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025 20:16 pm you guys realize that he's probably not pitching again until Spring Training?..... strong probably. We haven't thrown a significant starter in the minors after the draft since 2021...and that was Graceffo for around 9 relief innings in Palm Beach.
Hagen Smith got 3 innings in the last week of the season in 2024 at A ball. Burns didn't throw again until the following spring. Our top two pitchers from last years draft Thompson and Davis didn't throw last year.
Wait until spring, see how they do in camp then let the Peoria vs. Springfield debate begin.
Outside chance he gets a few innings late in the season, but not likely. He hasn't thrown since June 6th.
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Re: Any chance Doyle starts out at AA?
I looked up the top 4 pitchers we took last year.craviduce wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025 20:16 pm you guys realize that he's probably not pitching again until Spring Training?..... strong probably. We haven't thrown a significant starter in the minors after the draft since 2021...and that was Graceffo for around 9 relief innings in Palm Beach.
Hagen Smith got 3 innings in the last week of the season in 2024 at A ball. Burns didn't throw again until the following spring. Our top two pitchers from last years draft Thompson and Davis didn't throw last year.
Wait until spring, see how they do in camp then let the Peoria vs. Springfield debate begin.
Outside chance he gets a few innings late in the season, but not likely. He hasn't thrown since June 6th.
Brian Holliday, round 3, has not pitched at all this year. I assume he is and was hurt.
Braden Davis, round 5, Looks like he is doing well at Palm Beach 69 innings.
Andrew Dutkanych, round 7, 1 games started this year and 1 inning pitched. I assume he is and was hurt.
Jack Findlay, round 8, 43 innings pitched, not doing great, walks a lot of guys...
I know you did not like some of the pitchers in the last draft or 2. Doesn't seem like there is much there in this draft unless Brian Holliday makes it back from injury.
You are probably right, he won't pitch any games this year while they work on his pitching down in Jupiter. But, it would be nice if they gave him one start and 2-3 innings at AA in August. Just to give him a taste of pro ball.
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" it would be nice if they gave him one start and 2-3 innings at AA in August. Just to give him a taste of pro ball". That seems prudent. Doyle would likely like that opportunity.ICCFIM2 wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025 22:52 pmI looked up the top 4 pitchers we took last year.craviduce wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025 20:16 pm you guys realize that he's probably not pitching again until Spring Training?..... strong probably. We haven't thrown a significant starter in the minors after the draft since 2021...and that was Graceffo for around 9 relief innings in Palm Beach.
Hagen Smith got 3 innings in the last week of the season in 2024 at A ball. Burns didn't throw again until the following spring. Our top two pitchers from last years draft Thompson and Davis didn't throw last year.
Wait until spring, see how they do in camp then let the Peoria vs. Springfield debate begin.
Outside chance he gets a few innings late in the season, but not likely. He hasn't thrown since June 6th.
Brian Holliday, round 3, has not pitched at all this year. I assume he is and was hurt.
Braden Davis, round 5, Looks like he is doing well at Palm Beach 69 innings.
Andrew Dutkanych, round 7, 1 games started this year and 1 inning pitched. I assume he is and was hurt.
Jack Findlay, round 8, 43 innings pitched, not doing great, walks a lot of guys...
I know you did not like some of the pitchers in the last draft or 2. Doesn't seem like there is much there in this draft unless Brian Holliday makes it back from injury.
You are probably right, he won't pitch any games this year while they work on his pitching down in Jupiter. But, it would be nice if they gave him one start and 2-3 innings at AA in August. Just to give him a taste of pro ball.
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Why does that "seem prudent?"Shady wrote: ↑18 Jul 2025 09:39 am" it would be nice if they gave him one start and 2-3 innings at AA in August. Just to give him a taste of pro ball". That seems prudent. Doyle would likely like that opportunity.ICCFIM2 wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025 22:52 pmI looked up the top 4 pitchers we took last year.craviduce wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025 20:16 pm you guys realize that he's probably not pitching again until Spring Training?..... strong probably. We haven't thrown a significant starter in the minors after the draft since 2021...and that was Graceffo for around 9 relief innings in Palm Beach.
Hagen Smith got 3 innings in the last week of the season in 2024 at A ball. Burns didn't throw again until the following spring. Our top two pitchers from last years draft Thompson and Davis didn't throw last year.
Wait until spring, see how they do in camp then let the Peoria vs. Springfield debate begin.
Outside chance he gets a few innings late in the season, but not likely. He hasn't thrown since June 6th.
Brian Holliday, round 3, has not pitched at all this year. I assume he is and was hurt.
Braden Davis, round 5, Looks like he is doing well at Palm Beach 69 innings.
Andrew Dutkanych, round 7, 1 games started this year and 1 inning pitched. I assume he is and was hurt.
Jack Findlay, round 8, 43 innings pitched, not doing great, walks a lot of guys...
I know you did not like some of the pitchers in the last draft or 2. Doesn't seem like there is much there in this draft unless Brian Holliday makes it back from injury.
You are probably right, he won't pitch any games this year while they work on his pitching down in Jupiter. But, it would be nice if they gave him one start and 2-3 innings at AA in August. Just to give him a taste of pro ball.
Smith did exactly that last year. And he spent a month on the IL this season. Burns didn't do that last year, and he's in the Majors.
Acting with care towards the future, the Cards should wait until next spring training, protect their commodity. That, yes, that would be "prudent"
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Good points ! As for placement , the fact that he is touches 100 MPH and had nearly the highest SO % in the nation I am not sure what type challenge High A ball would be . Sure a few guys will get some hits but by and large he is going to blow the ball by them . I think a Springfield starting spot may be more chalenging with better hitters. He can work on those secondary pitches vs. better hitters there. See how good the guys at Double A can do against him. I would rather challenge him at a level where he could have a few struggles than to place him at a level where it is too easy for him . This guy surely doesn't lack confidence lol so let him get a taste of higher level guys from the get go . You aren't going to ruin his confidence by starting him too high. Just a thoughtcraviduce wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025 20:16 pm you guys realize that he's probably not pitching again until Spring Training?..... strong probably. We haven't thrown a significant starter in the minors after the draft since 2021...and that was Graceffo for around 9 relief innings in Palm Beach.
Hagen Smith got 3 innings in the last week of the season in 2024 at A ball. Burns didn't throw again until the following spring. Our top two pitchers from last years draft Thompson and Davis didn't throw last year.
Wait until spring, see how they do in camp then let the Peoria vs. Springfield debate begin.
Outside chance he gets a few innings late in the season, but not likely. He hasn't thrown since June 6th.
Re: Any chance Doyle starts out at AA?
I'm in favor of whatever level gives him the best opportunity to work on his secondary pitches. Hone and perfect, develop the muscle memory to command those pitches. And when he's ready for the big leagues, he has an arsenal ready to stick in the majors, and not bounce around from AAA to MLB for 2 or 3 seasons.ramfandan wrote: ↑18 Jul 2025 10:31 amGood points ! As for placement , the fact that he is touches 100 MPH and had nearly the highest SO % in the nation I am not sure what type challenge High A ball would be . Sure a few guys will get some hits but by and large he is going to blow the ball by them . I think a Springfield starting spot may be more chalenging with better hitters. He can work on those secondary pitches vs. better hitters there. See how good the guys at Double A can do against him. I would rather challenge him at a level where he could have a few struggles than to place him at a level where it is too easy for him . This guy surely doesn't lack confidence lol so let him get a taste of higher level guys from the get go . You aren't going to ruin his confidence by starting him too high. Just a thoughtcraviduce wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025 20:16 pm you guys realize that he's probably not pitching again until Spring Training?..... strong probably. We haven't thrown a significant starter in the minors after the draft since 2021...and that was Graceffo for around 9 relief innings in Palm Beach.
Hagen Smith got 3 innings in the last week of the season in 2024 at A ball. Burns didn't throw again until the following spring. Our top two pitchers from last years draft Thompson and Davis didn't throw last year.
Wait until spring, see how they do in camp then let the Peoria vs. Springfield debate begin.
Outside chance he gets a few innings late in the season, but not likely. He hasn't thrown since June 6th.
Let him develop.
Re: Any chance Doyle starts out at AA?
That makes sense.craviduce wrote: ↑18 Jul 2025 10:39 amI'm in favor of whatever level gives him the best opportunity to work on his secondary pitches. Hone and perfect, develop the muscle memory to command those pitches. And when he's ready for the big leagues, he has an arsenal ready to stick in the majors, and not bounce around from AAA to MLB for 2 or 3 seasons.ramfandan wrote: ↑18 Jul 2025 10:31 amGood points ! As for placement , the fact that he is touches 100 MPH and had nearly the highest SO % in the nation I am not sure what type challenge High A ball would be . Sure a few guys will get some hits but by and large he is going to blow the ball by them . I think a Springfield starting spot may be more chalenging with better hitters. He can work on those secondary pitches vs. better hitters there. See how good the guys at Double A can do against him. I would rather challenge him at a level where he could have a few struggles than to place him at a level where it is too easy for him . This guy surely doesn't lack confidence lol so let him get a taste of higher level guys from the get go . You aren't going to ruin his confidence by starting him too high. Just a thoughtcraviduce wrote: ↑17 Jul 2025 20:16 pm you guys realize that he's probably not pitching again until Spring Training?..... strong probably. We haven't thrown a significant starter in the minors after the draft since 2021...and that was Graceffo for around 9 relief innings in Palm Beach.
Hagen Smith got 3 innings in the last week of the season in 2024 at A ball. Burns didn't throw again until the following spring. Our top two pitchers from last years draft Thompson and Davis didn't throw last year.
Wait until spring, see how they do in camp then let the Peoria vs. Springfield debate begin.
Outside chance he gets a few innings late in the season, but not likely. He hasn't thrown since June 6th.
Let him develop.
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Re: Any chance Doyle starts out at AA?
LOL! He’d be a terrible sponsor