Four Proposals

[Talkin' Baseball]

The following are some trade proposals I had fun putting together. With the exception of the last one, they are focused on getting some higher ceiling talent that is MLB ready, or near ready. I have used Baseball Trade Values to double-check myself to make sure I am at least in the neighborhood of values. In some cases I overpaid a little, in some cases I underpaid a little, but in the end they check out as being reasonably close. Feel free to ask questions, or float your own ideas.

#1- The Blockbuster
Phillies get Ryan Helsley, Lars Nootbaar, Steven Matz, Jimmy Crooks (Cardinals #6), and Chase Davis (Cardinals #9)
Cardinals get Aidan Miller 21y/o SS/3B AA (MLB #22, Phillies #2), Justin Crawford 21y/o CF AAA (MLB #49, Phillies #3), and Mick Abel 23y/o RHP (MLB #87, Phillies #5)

#2 A Strikeout Machine
Blue Jays get Alec Burleson
Cardinals get Ricky Tiedemann 22y/o LHP AAA 6’4” 220 lb AAA (Blue Jays #4) coming of TJ surgery, nearly ready to return

#3 The MOTB
Tigers get Andre Pallante and Nolan Gorman
Cardinals get Josue Briceno 20 y/o 1B/C AA 6’4” 200lb (MLB #58, Tigers #4) .296 BA 1.009 OPS, 15 HR so far this season

#4 The Dump
Angels get Nolan Arenado and $20M making his salary $16M and $15M the next 2 seasons
Cardinals get Camden Minacci 23 y/o RHRP AA (Angels #21)

[Jatalk]

The following are some trade proposals I had fun putting together. With the exception of the last one, they are focused on getting some higher ceiling talent that is MLB ready, or near ready. I have used Baseball Trade Values to double-check myself to make sure I am at least in the neighborhood of values. In some cases I overpaid a little, in some cases I underpaid a little, but in the end they check out as being reasonably close. Feel free to ask questions, or float your own ideas.

#1- The Blockbuster
Phillies get Ryan Helsley, Lars Nootbaar, Steven Matz, Jimmy Crooks (Cardinals #6), and Chase Davis (Cardinals #9)
Cardinals get Aidan Miller 21y/o SS/3B AA (MLB #22, Phillies #2), Justin Crawford 21y/o CF AAA (MLB #49, Phillies #3), and Mick Abel 23y/o RHP (MLB #87, Phillies #5)

#2 A Strikeout Machine
Blue Jays get Alec Burleson
Cardinals get Ricky Tiedemann 22y/o LHP AAA 6’4” 220 lb AAA (Blue Jays #4) coming of TJ surgery, nearly ready to return

#3 The MOTB
Tigers get Andre Pallante and Nolan Gorman
Cardinals get Josue Briceno 20 y/o 1B/C AA 6’4” 200lb (MLB #58, Tigers #4) .296 BA 1.009 OPS, 15 HR so far this season

#4 The Dump
Angels get Nolan Arenado and $20M making his salary $16M and $15M the next 2 seasons
Cardinals get Camden Minacci 23 y/o RHRP AA (Angels #21)

If I read everything correctly you had an outfielder in one of the trades. I’m hoping they target some hard hitting outfield prospects. Of course pitching is a need. Hopefully they addressed some of this in the draft.

[Talkin' Baseball]

The following are some trade proposals I had fun putting together. With the exception of the last one, they are focused on getting some higher ceiling talent that is MLB ready, or near ready. I have used Baseball Trade Values to double-check myself to make sure I am at least in the neighborhood of values. In some cases I overpaid a little, in some cases I underpaid a little, but in the end they check out as being reasonably close. Feel free to ask questions, or float your own ideas.

#1- The Blockbuster
Phillies get Ryan Helsley, Lars Nootbaar, Steven Matz, Jimmy Crooks (Cardinals #6), and Chase Davis (Cardinals #9)
Cardinals get Aidan Miller 21y/o SS/3B AA (MLB #22, Phillies #2), Justin Crawford 21y/o CF AAA (MLB #49, Phillies #3), and Mick Abel 23y/o RHP (MLB #87, Phillies #5)

#2 A Strikeout Machine
Blue Jays get Alec Burleson
Cardinals get Ricky Tiedemann 22y/o LHP AAA 6’4” 220 lb AAA (Blue Jays #4) coming of TJ surgery, nearly ready to return

#3 The MOTB
Tigers get Andre Pallante and Nolan Gorman
Cardinals get Josue Briceno 20 y/o 1B/C AA 6’4” 200lb (MLB #58, Tigers #4) .296 BA 1.009 OPS, 15 HR so far this season

#4 The Dump
Angels get Nolan Arenado and $20M making his salary $16M and $15M the next 2 seasons
Cardinals get Camden Minacci 23 y/o RHRP AA (Angels #21)

If I read everything correctly you had an outfielder in one of the trades. I’m hoping they target some hard hitting outfield prospects. Of course pitching is a need. Hopefully they addressed some of this in the draft.

Yeah, the outfielder mentioned is Justin Crawford (Carl Crawford's son). He is a left-handed hitter carrying a .33 BA and an.839 OPS in AAA right now. He is fast.

[Talkin' Baseball]

The following are some trade proposals I had fun putting together. With the exception of the last one, they are focused on getting some higher ceiling talent that is MLB ready, or near ready. I have used Baseball Trade Values to double-check myself to make sure I am at least in the neighborhood of values. In some cases I overpaid a little, in some cases I underpaid a little, but in the end they check out as being reasonably close. Feel free to ask questions, or float your own ideas.

#1- The Blockbuster
Phillies get Ryan Helsley, Lars Nootbaar, Steven Matz, Jimmy Crooks (Cardinals #6), and Chase Davis (Cardinals #9)
Cardinals get Aidan Miller 21y/o SS/3B AA (MLB #22, Phillies #2), Justin Crawford 21y/o CF AAA (MLB #49, Phillies #3), and Mick Abel 23y/o RHP (MLB #87, Phillies #5)

#2 A Strikeout Machine
Blue Jays get Alec Burleson
Cardinals get Ricky Tiedemann 22y/o LHP AAA 6’4” 220 lb AAA (Blue Jays #4) coming of TJ surgery, nearly ready to return

#3 The MOTB
Tigers get Andre Pallante and Nolan Gorman
Cardinals get Josue Briceno 20 y/o 1B/C AA 6’4” 200lb (MLB #58, Tigers #4) .296 BA 1.009 OPS, 15 HR so far this season

#4 The Dump
Angels get Nolan Arenado and $20M making his salary $16M and $15M the next 2 seasons
Cardinals get Camden Minacci 23 y/o RHRP AA (Angels #21)

If I read everything correctly you had an outfielder in one of the trades. I’m hoping they target some hard hitting outfield prospects. Of course pitching is a need. Hopefully they addressed some of this in the draft.

Yeah, the outfielder mentioned is Justin Crawford (Carl Crawford's son). He is a left-handed hitter carrying a .33 BA and an.839 OPS in AAA right now. He is fast.

BA is .339

[scoutyjones2]

The following are some trade proposals I had fun putting together. With the exception of the last one, they are focused on getting some higher ceiling talent that is MLB ready, or near ready. I have used Baseball Trade Values to double-check myself to make sure I am at least in the neighborhood of values. In some cases I overpaid a little, in some cases I underpaid a little, but in the end they check out as being reasonably close. Feel free to ask questions, or float your own ideas.

#1- The Blockbuster
Phillies get Ryan Helsley, Lars Nootbaar, Steven Matz, Jimmy Crooks (Cardinals #6), and Chase Davis (Cardinals #9)
Cardinals get Aidan Miller 21y/o SS/3B AA (MLB #22, Phillies #2), Justin Crawford 21y/o CF AAA (MLB #49, Phillies #3), and Mick Abel 23y/o RHP (MLB #87, Phillies #5)

#2 A Strikeout Machine
Blue Jays get Alec Burleson
Cardinals get Ricky Tiedemann 22y/o LHP AAA 6’4” 220 lb AAA (Blue Jays #4) coming of TJ surgery, nearly ready to return

#3 The MOTB
Tigers get Andre Pallante and Nolan Gorman
Cardinals get Josue Briceno 20 y/o 1B/C AA 6’4” 200lb (MLB #58, Tigers #4) .296 BA 1.009 OPS, 15 HR so far this season

#4 The Dump
Angels get Nolan Arenado and $20M making his salary $16M and $15M the next 2 seasons
Cardinals get Camden Minacci 23 y/o RHRP AA (Angels #21)

If I read everything correctly you had an outfielder in one of the trades. I’m hoping they target some hard hitting outfield prospects. Of course pitching is a need. Hopefully they addressed some of this in the draft.

Yeah, the outfielder mentioned is Justin Crawford (Carl Crawford's son). He is a left-handed hitter carrying a .33 BA and an.839 OPS in AAA right now. He is fast.

Appreciate the work

Great, another LH hitter. Wish you'd post if these trade pieces are RH or LH hitters.

Cards don't need more LH hitters

Hard to find power/good RH OFers...odd

[kyace]

Phillies say no on the first one. They are not giving up 3 of their top 5 prospects for two rentals, a lh outfielder doing no better than the two they have. Davis has little trade value at this point.Maybe Helsley and Crooks for Abel is doable,
Cards aren’t looking to trade Burlerson and he is worth more than an injury prone pitcher,

[Talkin' Baseball]

The following are some trade proposals I had fun putting together. With the exception of the last one, they are focused on getting some higher ceiling talent that is MLB ready, or near ready. I have used Baseball Trade Values to double-check myself to make sure I am at least in the neighborhood of values. In some cases I overpaid a little, in some cases I underpaid a little, but in the end they check out as being reasonably close. Feel free to ask questions, or float your own ideas.

#1- The Blockbuster
Phillies get Ryan Helsley, Lars Nootbaar, Steven Matz, Jimmy Crooks (Cardinals #6), and Chase Davis (Cardinals #9)
Cardinals get Aidan Miller 21y/o SS/3B AA (MLB #22, Phillies #2), Justin Crawford 21y/o CF AAA (MLB #49, Phillies #3), and Mick Abel 23y/o RHP (MLB #87, Phillies #5)

#2 A Strikeout Machine
Blue Jays get Alec Burleson
Cardinals get Ricky Tiedemann 22y/o LHP AAA 6’4” 220 lb AAA (Blue Jays #4) coming of TJ surgery, nearly ready to return

#3 The MOTB
Tigers get Andre Pallante and Nolan Gorman
Cardinals get Josue Briceno 20 y/o 1B/C AA 6’4” 200lb (MLB #58, Tigers #4) .296 BA 1.009 OPS, 15 HR so far this season

#4 The Dump
Angels get Nolan Arenado and $20M making his salary $16M and $15M the next 2 seasons
Cardinals get Camden Minacci 23 y/o RHRP AA (Angels #21)

If I read everything correctly you had an outfielder in one of the trades. I’m hoping they target some hard hitting outfield prospects. Of course pitching is a need. Hopefully they addressed some of this in the draft.

Yeah, the outfielder mentioned is Justin Crawford (Carl Crawford's son). He is a left-handed hitter carrying a .33 BA and an.839 OPS in AAA right now. He is fast.

Appreciate the work

Great, another LH hitter. Wish you'd post if these trade pieces are RH or LH hitters.

Cards don't need more LH hitters

Hard to find power/good RH OFers...odd

I did also propose trading away 3 left handed hitters.

[Cardinals4Life]

The following are some trade proposals I had fun putting together. With the exception of the last one, they are focused on getting some higher ceiling talent that is MLB ready, or near ready. I have used Baseball Trade Values to double-check myself to make sure I am at least in the neighborhood of values. In some cases I overpaid a little, in some cases I underpaid a little, but in the end they check out as being reasonably close. Feel free to ask questions, or float your own ideas.

#1- The Blockbuster
Phillies get Ryan Helsley, Lars Nootbaar, Steven Matz, Jimmy Crooks (Cardinals #6), and Chase Davis (Cardinals #9)
Cardinals get Aidan Miller 21y/o SS/3B AA (MLB #22, Phillies #2), Justin Crawford 21y/o CF AAA (MLB #49, Phillies #3), and Mick Abel 23y/o RHP (MLB #87, Phillies #5)

#2 A Strikeout Machine
Blue Jays get Alec Burleson
Cardinals get Ricky Tiedemann 22y/o LHP AAA 6’4” 220 lb AAA (Blue Jays #4) coming of TJ surgery, nearly ready to return

#3 The MOTB
Tigers get Andre Pallante and Nolan Gorman
Cardinals get Josue Briceno 20 y/o 1B/C AA 6’4” 200lb (MLB #58, Tigers #4) .296 BA 1.009 OPS, 15 HR so far this season

#4 The Dump
Angels get Nolan Arenado and $20M making his salary $16M and $15M the next 2 seasons
Cardinals get Camden Minacci 23 y/o RHRP AA (Angels #21)

I love the 1st 2 trades, especially #1.
I'd do either of those without blinking!

[sikeston bulldog2]

The following are some trade proposals I had fun putting together. With the exception of the last one, they are focused on getting some higher ceiling talent that is MLB ready, or near ready. I have used Baseball Trade Values to double-check myself to make sure I am at least in the neighborhood of values. In some cases I overpaid a little, in some cases I underpaid a little, but in the end they check out as being reasonably close. Feel free to ask questions, or float your own ideas.

#1- The Blockbuster
Phillies get Ryan Helsley, Lars Nootbaar, Steven Matz, Jimmy Crooks (Cardinals #6), and Chase Davis (Cardinals #9)
Cardinals get Aidan Miller 21y/o SS/3B AA (MLB #22, Phillies #2), Justin Crawford 21y/o CF AAA (MLB #49, Phillies #3), and Mick Abel 23y/o RHP (MLB #87, Phillies #5)

#2 A Strikeout Machine
Blue Jays get Alec Burleson
Cardinals get Ricky Tiedemann 22y/o LHP AAA 6’4” 220 lb AAA (Blue Jays #4) coming of TJ surgery, nearly ready to return

#3 The MOTB
Tigers get Andre Pallante and Nolan Gorman
Cardinals get Josue Briceno 20 y/o 1B/C AA 6’4” 200lb (MLB #58, Tigers #4) .296 BA 1.009 OPS, 15 HR so far this season

#4 The Dump
Angels get Nolan Arenado and $20M making his salary $16M and $15M the next 2 seasons
Cardinals get Camden Minacci 23 y/o RHRP AA (Angels #21)

I love the 1st 2 trades, especially #1.
I'd do either of those without blinking!

Do them all. Look at the haul.

[Talkin' Baseball]

Phillies say no on the first one. They are not giving up 3 of their top 5 prospects for two rentals, a lh outfielder doing no better than the two they have. Davis has little trade value at this point.Maybe Helsley and Crooks for Abel is doable,
Cards aren’t looking to trade Burlerson and he is worth more than an injury prone pitcher,

Are you sure on the Phillies? I'd try them. Mark my words- They are going to swing big with somebody. For the sake of discussion, your point about Noot is well taken. He is actually doing better than the two they have. He can also play some CF where they are also having issues. And, as far as discussion, their prospect Miller is also struggling. He's hitting .233 with a .733 OPS- at AA. That's not much better than Noot is doing, but he is doing it in the bigs. It's also not that much better than Chase Davis is doing at AA. He may be ranked #22, but he's not a sure thing. They also get Crooks who for some reason has twice the trade value of Abel on BTV. Realmuto will not be back next year and they need a catching replacement. There are a dozen Cardinals to choose from who could be substituted, or included to help this along.

In all of these proposals the concept is more important than the particulars. Move expiring contracts, clear up roster redundancies, fix flaws in a "clunky" roster. Group them however you need to to come up with just a few players who fit better and have higher ceilings.

[Carp4Cy]

The following are some trade proposals I had fun putting together. With the exception of the last one, they are focused on getting some higher ceiling talent that is MLB ready, or near ready. I have used Baseball Trade Values to double-check myself to make sure I am at least in the neighborhood of values. In some cases I overpaid a little, in some cases I underpaid a little, but in the end they check out as being reasonably close. Feel free to ask questions, or float your own ideas.

#1- The Blockbuster
Phillies get Ryan Helsley, Lars Nootbaar, Steven Matz, Jimmy Crooks (Cardinals #6), and Chase Davis (Cardinals #9)
Cardinals get Aidan Miller 21y/o SS/3B AA (MLB #22, Phillies #2), Justin Crawford 21y/o CF AAA (MLB #49, Phillies #3), and Mick Abel 23y/o RHP (MLB #87, Phillies #5)

#2 A Strikeout Machine
Blue Jays get Alec Burleson
Cardinals get Ricky Tiedemann 22y/o LHP AAA 6’4” 220 lb AAA (Blue Jays #4) coming of TJ surgery, nearly ready to return

#3 The MOTB
Tigers get Andre Pallante and Nolan Gorman
Cardinals get Josue Briceno 20 y/o 1B/C AA 6’4” 200lb (MLB #58, Tigers #4) .296 BA 1.009 OPS, 15 HR so far this season

#4 The Dump
Angels get Nolan Arenado and $20M making his salary $16M and $15M the next 2 seasons
Cardinals get Camden Minacci 23 y/o RHRP AA (Angels #21)

This isn't 2023 where we lost 91 games and have a 3 year reset, so AA kind of keeps us behind the 8 ball. Procrastination still reigns in too many people's minds, but we are at the stage where we need to acquire MLB (and maybe some MLB ready, in a Nick Kurtz type of ready way) talent with control. Yes, there's some risk but taking a Alcantra or Gallen while they are down (and without a 9 figure contract attached) might not be a bad idea. Or go for the top OF power prospect in Spencer Jones - MLB ready. Nobody is going to be the next Judge, but he could rival Kurtz.

[Talkin' Baseball]

Phillies say no on the first one. They are not giving up 3 of their top 5 prospects for two rentals, a lh outfielder doing no better than the two they have. Davis has little trade value at this point.Maybe Helsley and Crooks for Abel is doable,
Cards aren’t looking to trade Burlerson and he is worth more than an injury prone pitcher,

I figured to get the most pushback on the Burleson proposal. He is for sure, a good major league hitter. As Randy Flores talked about after drafting Doyle, these pitchers are sooo expensive to get on the market. Tiedemann has top of the rotation stuff. He is filthy. In his first year of pro ball he pitched 78.2 innings and struck out 117. In his second season, he pitched 44 innings and struck out 82. In his third season (when he blew out his elbow) he pitched 17 innings and struck out 27.

It comes down to some philosophical choices. Are we willing to trade someone who is pretty good and has reasonable certainty for someone who could be really exceptional, but has a degree of uncertainty? It is easier to find someone to replace what Burleson provides than it is to find someone to fill the top of the rotation slots. Tiedemann is close to the majors and nearly ready to pitch again, but he is not a sure thing.

[ramfandan]

The following are some trade proposals I had fun putting together. With the exception of the last one, they are focused on getting some higher ceiling talent that is MLB ready, or near ready. I have used Baseball Trade Values to double-check myself to make sure I am at least in the neighborhood of values. In some cases I overpaid a little, in some cases I underpaid a little, but in the end they check out as being reasonably close. Feel free to ask questions, or float your own ideas.

#1- The Blockbuster
Phillies get Ryan Helsley, Lars Nootbaar, Steven Matz, Jimmy Crooks (Cardinals #6), and Chase Davis (Cardinals #9)
Cardinals get Aidan Miller 21y/o SS/3B AA (MLB #22, Phillies #2), Justin Crawford 21y/o CF AAA (MLB #49, Phillies #3), and Mick Abel 23y/o RHP (MLB #87, Phillies #5)

#2 A Strikeout Machine
Blue Jays get Alec Burleson
Cardinals get Ricky Tiedemann 22y/o LHP AAA 6’4” 220 lb AAA (Blue Jays #4) coming of TJ surgery, nearly ready to return

#3 The MOTB
Tigers get Andre Pallante and Nolan Gorman
Cardinals get Josue Briceno 20 y/o 1B/C AA 6’4” 200lb (MLB #58, Tigers #4) .296 BA 1.009 OPS, 15 HR so far this season

#4 The Dump
Angels get Nolan Arenado and $20M making his salary $16M and $15M the next 2 seasons
Cardinals get Camden Minacci 23 y/o RHRP AA (Angels #21)

If I read everything correctly you had an outfielder in one of the trades. I’m hoping they target some hard hitting outfield prospects. Of course pitching is a need. Hopefully they addressed some of this in the draft.

Yeah, the outfielder mentioned is Justin Crawford (Carl Crawford's son). He is a left-handed hitter carrying a .33 BA and an.839 OPS in AAA right now. He is fast.

BA is .339

Thanks for the update in his batting average. The .33 did get my attention though . I thought he must be a heckuva defensive OF player to stick with that average .

[Talkin' Baseball]

The following are some trade proposals I had fun putting together. With the exception of the last one, they are focused on getting some higher ceiling talent that is MLB ready, or near ready. I have used Baseball Trade Values to double-check myself to make sure I am at least in the neighborhood of values. In some cases I overpaid a little, in some cases I underpaid a little, but in the end they check out as being reasonably close. Feel free to ask questions, or float your own ideas.

#1- The Blockbuster
Phillies get Ryan Helsley, Lars Nootbaar, Steven Matz, Jimmy Crooks (Cardinals #6), and Chase Davis (Cardinals #9)
Cardinals get Aidan Miller 21y/o SS/3B AA (MLB #22, Phillies #2), Justin Crawford 21y/o CF AAA (MLB #49, Phillies #3), and Mick Abel 23y/o RHP (MLB #87, Phillies #5)

#2 A Strikeout Machine
Blue Jays get Alec Burleson
Cardinals get Ricky Tiedemann 22y/o LHP AAA 6’4” 220 lb AAA (Blue Jays #4) coming of TJ surgery, nearly ready to return

#3 The MOTB
Tigers get Andre Pallante and Nolan Gorman
Cardinals get Josue Briceno 20 y/o 1B/C AA 6’4” 200lb (MLB #58, Tigers #4) .296 BA 1.009 OPS, 15 HR so far this season

#4 The Dump
Angels get Nolan Arenado and $20M making his salary $16M and $15M the next 2 seasons
Cardinals get Camden Minacci 23 y/o RHRP AA (Angels #21)

This isn't 2023 where we lost 91 games and have a 3 year reset, so AA kind of keeps us behind the 8 ball. Procrastination still reigns in too many people's minds, but we are at the stage where we need to acquire MLB (and maybe some MLB ready, in a Nick Kurtz type of ready way) talent with control. Yes, there's some risk but taking a Alcantra or Gallen while they are down (and without a 9 figure contract attached) might not be a bad idea. Or go for the top OF power prospect in Spencer Jones - MLB ready. Nobody is going to be the next Judge, but he could rival Kurtz.

I'm a third little pig- I like to build a house of bricks even if it takes a little longer. These AA guys will be major league ready when the work stoppage ends. We can be loaded with a young, high end talent team with a payroll low enough to make literally any move even these tightwads could afford to do. You could sign anyone (if you had the courage), or extend anyone on your roster with no worries.

[Carp4Cy]

The following are some trade proposals I had fun putting together. With the exception of the last one, they are focused on getting some higher ceiling talent that is MLB ready, or near ready. I have used Baseball Trade Values to double-check myself to make sure I am at least in the neighborhood of values. In some cases I overpaid a little, in some cases I underpaid a little, but in the end they check out as being reasonably close. Feel free to ask questions, or float your own ideas.

#1- The Blockbuster
Phillies get Ryan Helsley, Lars Nootbaar, Steven Matz, Jimmy Crooks (Cardinals #6), and Chase Davis (Cardinals #9)
Cardinals get Aidan Miller 21y/o SS/3B AA (MLB #22, Phillies #2), Justin Crawford 21y/o CF AAA (MLB #49, Phillies #3), and Mick Abel 23y/o RHP (MLB #87, Phillies #5)

#2 A Strikeout Machine
Blue Jays get Alec Burleson
Cardinals get Ricky Tiedemann 22y/o LHP AAA 6’4” 220 lb AAA (Blue Jays #4) coming of TJ surgery, nearly ready to return

#3 The MOTB
Tigers get Andre Pallante and Nolan Gorman
Cardinals get Josue Briceno 20 y/o 1B/C AA 6’4” 200lb (MLB #58, Tigers #4) .296 BA 1.009 OPS, 15 HR so far this season

#4 The Dump
Angels get Nolan Arenado and $20M making his salary $16M and $15M the next 2 seasons
Cardinals get Camden Minacci 23 y/o RHRP AA (Angels #21)

This isn't 2023 where we lost 91 games and have a 3 year reset, so AA kind of keeps us behind the 8 ball. Procrastination still reigns in too many people's minds, but we are at the stage where we need to acquire MLB (and maybe some MLB ready, in a Nick Kurtz type of ready way) talent with control. Yes, there's some risk but taking a Alcantra or Gallen while they are down (and without a 9 figure contract attached) might not be a bad idea. Or go for the top OF power prospect in Spencer Jones - MLB ready. Nobody is going to be the next Judge, but he could rival Kurtz.

I'm a third little pig- I like to build a house of bricks even if it takes a little longer. These AA guys will be major league ready when the work stoppage ends. We can be loaded with a young, high end talent team with a payroll low enough to make literally any move even these tightwads could afford to do. You could sign anyone (if you had the courage), or extend anyone on your roster with no worries.

There are broader considerations than just methodically building a hypothetical team - we are the STL Cardinals and fans have expectations. And those fans are absolutely necessary to support the short term and long term payroll capacity to compete. So we have to balance low level prospects (which we already should have a number of from previous drafts and our renewed focus on "development" and intl league signings) with keeping enough talent on the MLB roster to win games and sell tickets. If we take too long with this "reset", many of the fans will go away permanently, and that is the very real and worst case risk. 2026 is closer to an expiration date on not competing than people want to admit. Procratinating any longer will have (unforseen by some) long term consequences.

And we absolutely have the payroll flexibility to do more next year - the trouble is, we don't play in FA markets, full stop. So deadline trades and offseason trades are really the only opportunities to acquire MLB talent that changes our franchise. It can and should be done.

McGwire, Renteria, Edmonds, Rolen, Holliday, Goldy, Nado - all came from trades. Its time to go to work on this again and get the fans back in the stands.

[82birds]

Phillies say no on the first one. They are not giving up 3 of their top 5 prospects for two rentals, a lh outfielder doing no better than the two they have. Davis has little trade value at this point.Maybe Helsley and Crooks for Abel is doable,
Cards aren’t looking to trade Burlerson and he is worth more than an injury prone pitcher,

I figured to get the most pushback on the Burleson proposal. He is for sure, a good major league hitter. As Randy Flores talked about after drafting Doyle, these pitchers are sooo expensive to get on the market. Tiedemann has top of the rotation stuff. He is filthy. In his first year of pro ball he pitched 78.2 innings and struck out 117. In his second season, he pitched 44 innings and struck out 82. In his third season (when he blew out his elbow) he pitched 17 innings and struck out 27.

It comes down to some philosophical choices. Are we willing to trade someone who is pretty good and has reasonable certainty for someone who could be really exceptional, but has a degree of uncertainty? It is easier to find someone to replace what Burleson provides than it is to find someone to fill the top of the rotation slots. Tiedemann is close to the majors and nearly ready to pitch again, but he is not a sure thing.

If I'm the Blue Jays, I think I'd hang on to Tiedemann