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I love Mile Shildt

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Went directly at Robert’s when Tatis got hit. Right or wrong he always has his players back to a fault (Matt Carpenter). More managers should be like that. He never would have thrown or allowed WC to be thrown under the bus like he was a couple of years ago.
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Jatalk wrote: 20 Jun 2025 07:50 am Went directly at Robert’s when Tatis got hit. Right or wrong he always has his players back to a fault (Matt Carpenter). More managers should be like that. He never would have thrown or allowed WC to be thrown under the bus like he was a couple of years ago.
When was WillyCon thrown under a bus? How long was he on the IL? :roll:
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scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Jun 2025 07:59 am
Jatalk wrote: 20 Jun 2025 07:50 am Went directly at Robert’s when Tatis got hit. Right or wrong he always has his players back to a fault (Matt Carpenter). More managers should be like that. He never would have thrown or allowed WC to be thrown under the bus like he was a couple of years ago.
When was WillyCon thrown under a bus? How long was he on the IL? :roll:
Shhhhhh...you are going to ruin a good ax grinding.
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scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Jun 2025 07:59 am
Jatalk wrote: 20 Jun 2025 07:50 am Went directly at Robert’s when Tatis got hit. Right or wrong he always has his players back to a fault (Matt Carpenter). More managers should be like that. He never would have thrown or allowed WC to be thrown under the bus like he was a couple of years ago.
When was WillyCon thrown under a bus? How long was he on the IL? :roll:
I’m still bitter about when he was first acquired and they decided he couldn’t catch (as good as Yadi I guess). It was just covering for a bunch of whiney pitchers in my opinion. If you remember they put him in the bench to learn. Granted he is no Yadi but they knew that. Pitching staff was spoiled and frankly had not learned to call or help call their own game.
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Re: I love Mile Shildt

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nighthawk wrote: 20 Jun 2025 08:07 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Jun 2025 07:59 am
Jatalk wrote: 20 Jun 2025 07:50 am Went directly at Robert’s when Tatis got hit. Right or wrong he always has his players back to a fault (Matt Carpenter). More managers should be like that. He never would have thrown or allowed WC to be thrown under the bus like he was a couple of years ago.
When was WillyCon thrown under a bus? How long was he on the IL? :roll:
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Jatalk wrote: 20 Jun 2025 08:10 am
nighthawk wrote: 20 Jun 2025 08:07 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Jun 2025 07:59 am
Jatalk wrote: 20 Jun 2025 07:50 am Went directly at Robert’s when Tatis got hit. Right or wrong he always has his players back to a fault (Matt Carpenter). More managers should be like that. He never would have thrown or allowed WC to be thrown under the bus like he was a couple of years ago.
When was WillyCon thrown under a bus? How long was he on the IL? :roll:
Shhhhhh...you are going to ruin a good ax grinding.
I’m a bitter old man give me space.
You're actually right about this though... bizarre how anyone would dispute WC being thrown under the bus. It was a humiliating public critique of their brand new FA signing... clown move by a clown manager (who granted has since improved).

Back to your OP though... interesting that as much as he sticks up for his players that he was like #2 on the list of managers the players would least want to play for on that informal poll from last week.
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3dender wrote: 20 Jun 2025 08:17 am
Jatalk wrote: 20 Jun 2025 08:10 am
nighthawk wrote: 20 Jun 2025 08:07 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Jun 2025 07:59 am
Jatalk wrote: 20 Jun 2025 07:50 am Went directly at Robert’s when Tatis got hit. Right or wrong he always has his players back to a fault (Matt Carpenter). More managers should be like that. He never would have thrown or allowed WC to be thrown under the bus like he was a couple of years ago.
When was WillyCon thrown under a bus? How long was he on the IL? :roll:
Shhhhhh...you are going to ruin a good ax grinding.
I’m a bitter old man give me space.
You're actually right about this though... bizarre how anyone would dispute WC being thrown under the bus. It was a humiliating public critique of their brand new FA signing... clown move by a clown manager (who granted has since improved).

Back to your OP though... interesting that as much as he sticks up for his players that he was like #2 on the list of managers the players would least want to play for on that informal poll from last week.
I didn’t see that poll. Did it include players that played for him? To some extent I understand that given what appears to be a conservative old school nature. He is not Mr personality or Mr excitement. But I didn’t like my boss but still worked for him and Schildt’s record is pretty good.

Oli does share the blame for the WC incident but let’s not let Mo off the hook either. It was classless.
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WC was absolutely thrown under the bus by Oli and passive-aggressively by Waino as well. It was a despicable era for the Cards.
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Jatalk wrote: 20 Jun 2025 08:09 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Jun 2025 07:59 am
Jatalk wrote: 20 Jun 2025 07:50 am Went directly at Robert’s when Tatis got hit. Right or wrong he always has his players back to a fault (Matt Carpenter). More managers should be like that. He never would have thrown or allowed WC to be thrown under the bus like he was a couple of years ago.
When was WillyCon thrown under a bus? How long was he on the IL? :roll:
I’m still bitter about when he was first acquired and they decided he couldn’t catch (as good as Yadi I guess). It was just covering for a bunch of whiney pitchers in my opinion. If you remember they put him in the bench to learn. Granted he is no Yadi but they knew that. Pitching staff was spoiled and frankly had not learned to call or help call their own game.
Total misrepresentation...

He didn't get time with pitchers to learn their pitches and repitoire due to many being in the WBC

He wasn't thrown under the bus. They gave him some more time to work and learn with the pitchers.
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Basil Shabazz wrote: 20 Jun 2025 08:26 am WC was absolutely thrown under the bus by Oli and passive-aggressively by Waino as well. It was a despicable era for the Cards.
Yep
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3dender wrote: 20 Jun 2025 08:17 am
Jatalk wrote: 20 Jun 2025 08:10 am
nighthawk wrote: 20 Jun 2025 08:07 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Jun 2025 07:59 am
Jatalk wrote: 20 Jun 2025 07:50 am Went directly at Robert’s when Tatis got hit. Right or wrong he always has his players back to a fault (Matt Carpenter). More managers should be like that. He never would have thrown or allowed WC to be thrown under the bus like he was a couple of years ago.
When was WillyCon thrown under a bus? How long was he on the IL? :roll:
Shhhhhh...you are going to ruin a good ax grinding.
I’m a bitter old man give me space.
You're actually right about this though... bizarre how anyone would dispute WC being thrown under the bus. It was a humiliating public critique of their brand new FA signing... clown move by a clown manager (who granted has since improved).

Back to your OP though... interesting that as much as he sticks up for his players that he was like #2 on the list of managers the players would least want to play for on that informal poll from last week.
Not true at all...it was due to the [fork]ing garbage WBC and pitchers not getting time with WillyCon...

Man, CT can't stop grinding the non-existent axe.

It's so pathetic, it's funny ...and why I love this place! :lol:

WillyCon was so distraught over this that he stays with the team and takes charge as a leader...poor Willy :lol:
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scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Jun 2025 08:37 am
3dender wrote: 20 Jun 2025 08:17 am
Jatalk wrote: 20 Jun 2025 08:10 am
nighthawk wrote: 20 Jun 2025 08:07 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Jun 2025 07:59 am
Jatalk wrote: 20 Jun 2025 07:50 am Went directly at Robert’s when Tatis got hit. Right or wrong he always has his players back to a fault (Matt Carpenter). More managers should be like that. He never would have thrown or allowed WC to be thrown under the bus like he was a couple of years ago.
When was WillyCon thrown under a bus? How long was he on the IL? :roll:
Shhhhhh...you are going to ruin a good ax grinding.
I’m a bitter old man give me space.
You're actually right about this though... bizarre how anyone would dispute WC being thrown under the bus. It was a humiliating public critique of their brand new FA signing... clown move by a clown manager (who granted has since improved).

Back to your OP though... interesting that as much as he sticks up for his players that he was like #2 on the list of managers the players would least want to play for on that informal poll from last week.
Not true at all...it was due to the [fork]ing garbage WBC and pitchers not getting time with WillyCon...

Man, CT can't stop grinding the non-existent axe.

It's so pathetic, it's funny ...and why I love this place! :lol:

WillyCon was so distraught over this that he stays with the team and takes charge as a leader...poor Willy :lol:
The fact that WC handled it about as gracefully as humanly possible doesn't mean it wasn't a super [shirt]ty way to treat your brand new FA acquisition.

The WBC was an excuse that management used when it was very clear there were 2-3 pitchers who had complained about him to coaches, which instead of shutting down like responsible adults in the room they decided to entertain.
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3dender wrote: 20 Jun 2025 08:44 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Jun 2025 08:37 am
3dender wrote: 20 Jun 2025 08:17 am
Jatalk wrote: 20 Jun 2025 08:10 am
nighthawk wrote: 20 Jun 2025 08:07 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Jun 2025 07:59 am
Jatalk wrote: 20 Jun 2025 07:50 am Went directly at Robert’s when Tatis got hit. Right or wrong he always has his players back to a fault (Matt Carpenter). More managers should be like that. He never would have thrown or allowed WC to be thrown under the bus like he was a couple of years ago.
When was WillyCon thrown under a bus? How long was he on the IL? :roll:
Shhhhhh...you are going to ruin a good ax grinding.
I’m a bitter old man give me space.
You're actually right about this though... bizarre how anyone would dispute WC being thrown under the bus. It was a humiliating public critique of their brand new FA signing... clown move by a clown manager (who granted has since improved).

Back to your OP though... interesting that as much as he sticks up for his players that he was like #2 on the list of managers the players would least want to play for on that informal poll from last week.
Not true at all...it was due to the [fork]ing garbage WBC and pitchers not getting time with WillyCon...

Man, CT can't stop grinding the non-existent axe.

It's so pathetic, it's funny ...and why I love this place! :lol:

WillyCon was so distraught over this that he stays with the team and takes charge as a leader...poor Willy :lol:
The fact that WC handled it about as gracefully as humanly possible doesn't mean it wasn't a super [shirt]ty way to treat your brand new FA acquisition.

The WBC was an excuse that management used when it was very clear there were 2-3 pitchers who had complained about him to coaches, which instead of shutting down like responsible adults in the room they decided to entertain.
Your claim of super [shirt]ty just isn't true... :lol:

WillyCon was calling for pitches the pitchers didn't throw... :roll:

The WBC wasn't an excuse...it actually happened. And it shouldn't. It's (bleep)
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3dender wrote: 20 Jun 2025 08:44 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Jun 2025 08:37 am
3dender wrote: 20 Jun 2025 08:17 am
Jatalk wrote: 20 Jun 2025 08:10 am
nighthawk wrote: 20 Jun 2025 08:07 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Jun 2025 07:59 am
Jatalk wrote: 20 Jun 2025 07:50 am Went directly at Robert’s when Tatis got hit. Right or wrong he always has his players back to a fault (Matt Carpenter). More managers should be like that. He never would have thrown or allowed WC to be thrown under the bus like he was a couple of years ago.
When was WillyCon thrown under a bus? How long was he on the IL? :roll:
Shhhhhh...you are going to ruin a good ax grinding.
I’m a bitter old man give me space.
You're actually right about this though... bizarre how anyone would dispute WC being thrown under the bus. It was a humiliating public critique of their brand new FA signing... clown move by a clown manager (who granted has since improved).

Back to your OP though... interesting that as much as he sticks up for his players that he was like #2 on the list of managers the players would least want to play for on that informal poll from last week.
Not true at all...it was due to the [fork]ing garbage WBC and pitchers not getting time with WillyCon...

Man, CT can't stop grinding the non-existent axe.

It's so pathetic, it's funny ...and why I love this place! :lol:

WillyCon was so distraught over this that he stays with the team and takes charge as a leader...poor Willy :lol:
The fact that WC handled it about as gracefully as humanly possible doesn't mean it wasn't a super [shirt]ty way to treat your brand new FA acquisition.

The WBC was an excuse that management used when it was very clear there were 2-3 pitchers who had complained about him to coaches, which instead of shutting down like responsible adults in the room they decided to entertain.
Bingo!!
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scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Jun 2025 08:46 am
3dender wrote: 20 Jun 2025 08:44 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Jun 2025 08:37 am
3dender wrote: 20 Jun 2025 08:17 am
Jatalk wrote: 20 Jun 2025 08:10 am
nighthawk wrote: 20 Jun 2025 08:07 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Jun 2025 07:59 am
Jatalk wrote: 20 Jun 2025 07:50 am Went directly at Robert’s when Tatis got hit. Right or wrong he always has his players back to a fault (Matt Carpenter). More managers should be like that. He never would have thrown or allowed WC to be thrown under the bus like he was a couple of years ago.
When was WillyCon thrown under a bus? How long was he on the IL? :roll:
Shhhhhh...you are going to ruin a good ax grinding.
I’m a bitter old man give me space.
You're actually right about this though... bizarre how anyone would dispute WC being thrown under the bus. It was a humiliating public critique of their brand new FA signing... clown move by a clown manager (who granted has since improved).

Back to your OP though... interesting that as much as he sticks up for his players that he was like #2 on the list of managers the players would least want to play for on that informal poll from last week.
Not true at all...it was due to the [fork]ing garbage WBC and pitchers not getting time with WillyCon...

Man, CT can't stop grinding the non-existent axe.

It's so pathetic, it's funny ...and why I love this place! :lol:

WillyCon was so distraught over this that he stays with the team and takes charge as a leader...poor Willy :lol:
The fact that WC handled it about as gracefully as humanly possible doesn't mean it wasn't a super [shirt]ty way to treat your brand new FA acquisition.

The WBC was an excuse that management used when it was very clear there were 2-3 pitchers who had complained about him to coaches, which instead of shutting down like responsible adults in the room they decided to entertain.
Your claim of super [shirt]ty just isn't true... :lol:

WillyCon was calling for pitches the pitchers didn't throw... :roll:

The WBC wasn't an excuse...it actually happened. And it shouldn't. It's (bleep)
I'm not saying WC was doing great, or even that the pitchers' concerns were unjustified. It was the publicly humiliating way Marmol hung him out to dry that was totally classless by an organization that has marketed itself for decades as the classiest in the league.

It absolutely could have been handled internally, and it would have by a better manager.
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