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Re: Nootbat

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11WSChamps wrote: 10 Jun 2025 09:02 am
Melville wrote: 10 Jun 2025 08:20 am
11WSChamps wrote: 09 Jun 2025 23:24 pm Got off to a good start but is fading badly of late.

He's a nice ancillary piece to have but the ballclub has to move forward in getting real production from its corner OF spots.

Donovan really isn't the answer in LF going forward when looking for a spot for JJ and or Gorman/Saggese and there's nothing on the horizon in the minors.

This has been an issue for years..haven't had a homegrown mainstay in the corner spots since Alan Craig for Christ sake and how long ago was that. The brief time with the acquisition of Ozuna several years ago.

For goodness sakes go out and buy a corner OF bat for 2026 and beyond.
Good to see so many others arrive at where I have been rightly positioned for 3+ years.
Uh..I've known this all along.

Doesn't have the defensive chops to be an everyday CF'er and isn't going to hit enough to nail down a corner OF spot.

The reason CF for this franchise has been so influx the last several years is because our Corner OF'ers don't produce even close to traditional power numbers. Thus it exposes guys like Scott, Grichuk, Nootbar, Bader and God knows who else who's offense becomes magnified.
Exactly right.
The team would rather sell its "commitment to development" propaganda than buy what is needed for success.
As I have long said, "sustainable mediocrity" is the true goal.
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3dender wrote: 10 Jun 2025 08:53 am .665 OPS in May
.459 OPS in June

This is not just a slump or cold stretch, this is him not being able to effectively hit for more than half the season already.
Completely inevitable.
Take away high, straight fastballs and he becomes comoleteky neutralized.
Every year
Pitchers adjust to this fact
And always will.
Moot is not smart enough to understand that pitchers are very willing to let him walk to 1B rather than serve him the one meatball he can hit
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Re: Nootbat

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The answer is to take...

Mikolas/$17.7M
Matz/$12.5M
Fedde/$7.5M

Total
$37.7M

and let C. Bloom throw it at K. Tucker (To Date: 13 Hr/41 Rbi/16 Sb/.279 .392 .520 .913)! :D

Then you can deal Noot and/or J. Walker for pitching.
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Carp4Cy wrote: 10 Jun 2025 10:15 am
sdaltons wrote: 10 Jun 2025 09:42 am I said several years ago Mootbat is, at best, a 3rd OF on a team with two other great OFs.

When he's looked to as a team's best OF, said team is in trouble.

The best thing was when he was going to convince Ohtani to sign here. :lol:
That’s the thing. Our whole starting outfield as individuals should be the third best outfielder and of the three Scott is the easiest to swallow because he plays great centerfield and has speed. But he needs to be flanked by power and/or high avg hitting corners - and he isn’t.
Our whole team is like that. Lots of individually decent players who would be batting 6th in a strong lineup. Lots of #3-4 starting pitchers (besides Gray).

All miscast because we don't have the guys to excel at the top of the batting order/rotation.
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Another thread where various posts complain about a player being terrible and then propose trading him! Who exactly do you think you could get for him?
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ClassicO wrote: 10 Jun 2025 11:36 am Another thread where various posts complain about a player being terrible and then propose trading him! Who exactly do you think you could get for him?
Very good question.
I’ll back up to my post earlier in this thread.
I believe he has a low baseball IQ and is overrated.
Based on that I would “consider” trading him.
Back to your question:
Would I dump him? No
He still has value to the team just not sure he is a long term answer.
Any trade would have to make sense from a talent return.
If it doesn’t you keep him.
He is under team control so not that costly.
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