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Three Blues Trade Targets After Jets Series Loss

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3 Blues trade targets after Jets series loss

By Bryan Logan
May 20, 2025

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Blues should target a young defenseman

The Blues need to add some youth to their defensive rotation. Of their top-six defenders in ice time per game this year, only Philip Broberg was under the age of 32. This includes Ryan Suter, who will be turning 41 next season. Of their current eight defenders under an NHL contract, only three are under the age of 30.

The best option on the market is Evan Bouchard of the Oilers. Bouchard is a restricted free agent whom the Oilers may look to re-sign. Still, the Oilers are projected to have just $9 million in available cap space next year. They also have multiple other current unrestricted free agents to sign plus Connor McDavid entering the last year of his deal.

While the Blues could sign Bouchard to an offer sheet, that could cost multiple draft picks, including two first-rounders. Working a trade would be a better option. Bouchard was on the ice 23:27 per game this year, giving him top defensive pair minutes. He was also great on the power play and an offensive threat, which would be a huge upgrade for the Blues. He will turn 26 at the beginning of the season as well. This would add some youth to this aging defensive unit.

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Re: Three Blues Trade Targets After Jets Series Loss

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The idea that the Blues need to do something drastic on defense is ridiculous. Do they need to address the Defense? Yes. But do they need to give away picks in a deal, trade Kyrou, or offer big money in free agency? No, absolutely not.
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Re: Three Blues Trade Targets After Jets Series Loss

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Bouchard was selected in the first round, 10th overall by the Edmonton Oilers in the 2018 NHL entry draft.

Does anybody need me to explain what the best way is to get a very good player? Please DM me if you need that counsel.
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Re: Three Blues Trade Targets After Jets Series Loss

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The Blues don't have the draft picks to sign anyone worth anything to an offer sheet. I am glad that they don't. Broberg and Holloway are better than draft picks.
Interesting fact ... the Red Wings have drafted in the top 10 in 7 out of the last 8 years. They haven't made the playoffs in 9 years. They have a #4 overall and 3 #6 overalls in that streak. This season they finished with 86 points.
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Re: Three Blues Trade Targets After Jets Series Loss

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Lone_Ranger wrote: 23 May 2025 08:46 am The idea that the Blues need to do something drastic on defense is ridiculous. Do they need to address the Defense? Yes. But do they need to give away picks in a deal, trade Kyrou, or offer big money in free agency? No, absolutely not.
Ah, so in an absolute sense this RHD top 4 cornerstone can be had without paying a lot or giving up a lot of value, otherwise people are being ridiculous? I hear that! It sure is easy! You make a good point about how absolutely easy it is. Anyone who says it's not easy ... ridiculous ...
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b-a-a-a-rclay wrote: 23 May 2025 09:21 am The Blues don't have the draft picks to sign anyone worth anything to an offer sheet. I am glad that they don't. Broberg and Holloway are better than draft picks.
Interesting fact ... the Red Wings have drafted in the top 10 in 7 out of the last 8 years. They haven't made the playoffs in 9 years. They have a #4 overall and 3 #6 overalls in that streak. This season they finished with 86 points.
interesting facts:
All 4 2025 playoff teams have at least 1 long-time TOP5 pick on their roster.
Across 25 years, the MVP of the playoffs is almost always a TOP5 pick of the winning team.
The Blues have no TOP5 picks, and they haven't had one on the roster for 5 years.
Broberg and Holloway were successful high draft picks chosen by Edmonton that Army stole in a one-time-robbery. Don't ask Army how/when he will find more Brobergs and Holloways. He has NO IDEA. That is his operating model.
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Re: Three Blues Trade Targets After Jets Series Loss

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a smell of green grass wrote: 23 May 2025 10:50 am
b-a-a-a-rclay wrote: 23 May 2025 09:21 am The Blues don't have the draft picks to sign anyone worth anything to an offer sheet. I am glad that they don't. Broberg and Holloway are better than draft picks.
Interesting fact ... the Red Wings have drafted in the top 10 in 7 out of the last 8 years. They haven't made the playoffs in 9 years. They have a #4 overall and 3 #6 overalls in that streak. This season they finished with 86 points.
interesting facts:
All 4 2025 playoff teams have at least 1 long-time TOP5 pick on their roster.
Across 25 years, the MVP of the playoffs is almost always a TOP5 pick of the winning team.
The Blues have no TOP5 picks, and they haven't had one on the roster for 5 years.
Broberg and Holloway were successful high draft picks chosen by Edmonton that Army stole in a one-time-robbery. Don't ask Army how/when he will find more Brobergs and Holloways. He has NO IDEA. That is his operating model.
Brayden Schenn. Drafted #5.
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Re: Three Blues Trade Targets After Jets Series Loss

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seattleblue wrote: 23 May 2025 10:16 am
Lone_Ranger wrote: 23 May 2025 08:46 am The idea that the Blues need to do something drastic on defense is ridiculous. Do they need to address the Defense? Yes. But do they need to give away picks in a deal, trade Kyrou, or offer big money in free agency? No, absolutely not.
Ah, so in an absolute sense this RHD top 4 cornerstone can be had without paying a lot or giving up a lot of value, otherwise people are being ridiculous? I hear that! It sure is easy! You make a good point about how absolutely easy it is. Anyone who says it's not easy ... ridiculous ...
What does the Blues past tell us about how to get an exceptional RHD?
Pietrangelo - Rd 1 #4

Answer: Round 1 TOP 5 picks of the NHL draft is how you find the exceptional ones.

Army doesn't believe in that--even though he won in 2019 with it.
He goes 1 of 2 routes:
a) Pick up the old models from the used car lot (aka The 2015 LeddyMobile).
b) Pick up factory-defect new models with one good leg left at Rd 1 #17 (aka The 2024 Jiricek)
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Lone_Ranger wrote: 23 May 2025 08:46 am The idea that the Blues need to do something drastic on defense is ridiculous. Do they need to address the Defense? Yes. But do they need to give away picks in a deal, trade Kyrou, or offer big money in free agency? No, absolutely not.
Spot on. Not sure why any additional posts are necessary, but I'll read on.
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somni wrote: 23 May 2025 10:54 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 23 May 2025 10:50 am
b-a-a-a-rclay wrote: 23 May 2025 09:21 am The Blues don't have the draft picks to sign anyone worth anything to an offer sheet. I am glad that they don't. Broberg and Holloway are better than draft picks.
Interesting fact ... the Red Wings have drafted in the top 10 in 7 out of the last 8 years. They haven't made the playoffs in 9 years. They have a #4 overall and 3 #6 overalls in that streak. This season they finished with 86 points.
interesting facts:
All 4 2025 playoff teams have at least 1 long-time TOP5 pick on their roster.
Across 25 years, the MVP of the playoffs is almost always a TOP5 pick of the winning team.
The Blues have no TOP5 picks, and they haven't had one on the roster for 5 years.
Broberg and Holloway were successful high draft picks chosen by Edmonton that Army stole in a one-time-robbery. Don't ask Army how/when he will find more Brobergs and Holloways. He has NO IDEA. That is his operating model.
Brayden Schenn. Drafted #5.
LOL. The perfect response.
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Re: Three Blues Trade Targets After Jets Series Loss

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somni wrote: 23 May 2025 10:54 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 23 May 2025 10:50 am
b-a-a-a-rclay wrote: 23 May 2025 09:21 am The Blues don't have the draft picks to sign anyone worth anything to an offer sheet. I am glad that they don't. Broberg and Holloway are better than draft picks.
Interesting fact ... the Red Wings have drafted in the top 10 in 7 out of the last 8 years. They haven't made the playoffs in 9 years. They have a #4 overall and 3 #6 overalls in that streak. This season they finished with 86 points.
interesting facts:
All 4 2025 playoff teams have at least 1 long-time TOP5 pick on their roster.
Across 25 years, the MVP of the playoffs is almost always a TOP5 pick of the winning team.
The Blues have no TOP5 picks, and they haven't had one on the roster for 5 years.
Broberg and Holloway were successful high draft picks chosen by Edmonton that Army stole in a one-time-robbery. Don't ask Army how/when he will find more Brobergs and Holloways. He has NO IDEA. That is his operating model.
Brayden Schenn. Drafted #5.
Ha! You missed the moving goal post. See ASSOGG's next post!
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Re: Three Blues Trade Targets After Jets Series Loss

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somni wrote: 23 May 2025 10:54 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 23 May 2025 10:50 am
b-a-a-a-rclay wrote: 23 May 2025 09:21 am The Blues don't have the draft picks to sign anyone worth anything to an offer sheet. I am glad that they don't. Broberg and Holloway are better than draft picks.
Interesting fact ... the Red Wings have drafted in the top 10 in 7 out of the last 8 years. They haven't made the playoffs in 9 years. They have a #4 overall and 3 #6 overalls in that streak. This season they finished with 86 points.
interesting facts:
All 4 2025 playoff teams have at least 1 long-time TOP5 pick on their roster.
Across 25 years, the MVP of the playoffs is almost always a TOP5 pick of the winning team.
The Blues have no TOP5 picks, and they haven't had one on the roster for 5 years.
Broberg and Holloway were successful high draft picks chosen by Edmonton that Army stole in a one-time-robbery. Don't ask Army how/when he will find more Brobergs and Holloways. He has NO IDEA. That is his operating model.
Brayden Schenn. Drafted #5.
lol yes, all cup winning teams have high picks because almost every NHL team has high picks.
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Re: Three Blues Trade Targets After Jets Series Loss

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a smell of green grass wrote: 23 May 2025 11:03 am
seattleblue wrote: 23 May 2025 10:16 am
Lone_Ranger wrote: 23 May 2025 08:46 am The idea that the Blues need to do something drastic on defense is ridiculous. Do they need to address the Defense? Yes. But do they need to give away picks in a deal, trade Kyrou, or offer big money in free agency? No, absolutely not.
Ah, so in an absolute sense this RHD top 4 cornerstone can be had without paying a lot or giving up a lot of value, otherwise people are being ridiculous? I hear that! It sure is easy! You make a good point about how absolutely easy it is. Anyone who says it's not easy ... ridiculous ...
What does the Blues past tell us about how to get an exceptional RHD?
Pietrangelo - Rd 1 #4

Answer: Round 1 TOP 5 picks of the NHL draft is how you find the exceptional ones.

Army doesn't believe in that--even though he won in 2019 with it.
He goes 1 of 2 routes:
a) Pick up the old models from the used car lot (aka The 2015 LeddyMobile).
b) Pick up factory-defect new models with one good leg left at Rd 1 #17 (aka The 2024 Jiricek)
we also traded a lot of value for one who was a raw prospect (Pronger) and signed one in UFA (Stevens) and drafted one (Petro) is a better answer than your answer. but your answer is dedicated to being a schtick since you can use words like 'unfettered' and somehow act like a dunce and the words magically fly past you unattended when it comes to ever being accountable to valid rebuttals.
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DawgDad wrote: 23 May 2025 11:07 am
somni wrote: 23 May 2025 10:54 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 23 May 2025 10:50 am
b-a-a-a-rclay wrote: 23 May 2025 09:21 am The Blues don't have the draft picks to sign anyone worth anything to an offer sheet. I am glad that they don't. Broberg and Holloway are better than draft picks.
Interesting fact ... the Red Wings have drafted in the top 10 in 7 out of the last 8 years. They haven't made the playoffs in 9 years. They have a #4 overall and 3 #6 overalls in that streak. This season they finished with 86 points.
interesting facts:
All 4 2025 playoff teams have at least 1 long-time TOP5 pick on their roster.
Across 25 years, the MVP of the playoffs is almost always a TOP5 pick of the winning team.
The Blues have no TOP5 picks, and they haven't had one on the roster for 5 years.
Broberg and Holloway were successful high draft picks chosen by Edmonton that Army stole in a one-time-robbery. Don't ask Army how/when he will find more Brobergs and Holloways. He has NO IDEA. That is his operating model.
Brayden Schenn. Drafted #5.
Ha! You missed the moving goal post. See ASSOGG's next post!
Do not confuse goal-post-moving with furthering your understanding. Unfortunately, I've found that I need to introduce you to the complexities in piece-parts.
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trading with the Oilers at this point seems like a terrible idea. there's no chance they dont end up paying an exaggerated premium for "past considerations"
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I don't really think Bouchard is the answer. I'd be more interested in Byram or Gavrikov at this point.
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