Would you do this trade?

[renostl]

Here's who I see if he's available:

K. Stowers/Marlins (former #2nd round pick of the O's)
27 yrs old
OF'er
10 HR
.300 .375 .571 .946

Not a FA until 2030

Gorman or Walker + a minor league pitching prospect?

Herrera maybe gets this.

[Ike Hammett]

Matz to Yankees for Devin Williams? Williams has struggled in NY and Weaver is the closer. Yanks could use a good lh reliever for their bullpen. Money is about the same so not much savings or cost for either team.
My thinking is this, the Yankees have lost confidence in Williams. If you do this trade soon then you give Williams a chance to turn things around in his hometown in a less pressured circumstance. At the deadline then if the Cards are selling they hold possibly the two best bullpen arms available.
They also would have the option to keep one to allow them to be competitive but trade the other for a good return.

Maybe if they threw in some devil majik, like a guaranteed playoff win this year.

[ScotchMIrish]

Matz to Yankees for Devin Williams? Williams has struggled in NY and Weaver is the closer. Yanks could use a good lh reliever for their bullpen. Money is about the same so not much savings or cost for either team.
My thinking is this, the Yankees have lost confidence in Williams. If you do this trade soon then you give Williams a chance to turn things around in his hometown in a less pressured circumstance. At the deadline then if the Cards are selling they hold possibly the two best bullpen arms available.
They also would have the option to keep one to allow them to be competitive but trade the other for a good return.

Not seeing this as a good option or the logic behind it. We have Matz who is pitching well. Instead of flipping him for prospects, we are going to trade him for a struggling pitcher we hope miraculously turns it around before we need to flip him in two months?

Why not just flip Matz who has higher trade value currently for prospects?

I say this as one of Matz biggest critics, he has been real good this year. He should be flipped for prospects.

34 years old. $12 million a year. Final year of the contract. Unlikely would get anything resembling a top prospect in return. Perhaps in late July if the Cards are not in contention he could be flipped for a project.

Williams' strikeout rate is dropped significantly. I suspect injury. It would be great to see a Suburban North athlete return home but probably not gonna happen at this stage.

[HorseTrader]

I'd probably say no and I think the Yankees would say no. However, I would consider Munoz for Williams but the Yankees would sure say no to that

For all personnel actions I want the new guy do the trade. He has no dog in our fight. He comes in with clean hands, clean slate.

I think with this team, minus Matz Nik Nado and Helmsley, with keen additions, buy a stud. Could compete for pennant in 2027.

Dog they've stated that ANY action that extends beyond this year, Bloom is involved in. Now Munoz for Williams extends beyond this year only in that Munoz is under the Cards controll for a few more year. Do you really care if they keep Munoz or not? I haven't seen anything that makes me think he's a big part of the future.

[Stlcardsblues]

Matz to Yankees for Devin Williams? Williams has struggled in NY and Weaver is the closer. Yanks could use a good lh reliever for their bullpen. Money is about the same so not much savings or cost for either team.
My thinking is this, the Yankees have lost confidence in Williams. If you do this trade soon then you give Williams a chance to turn things around in his hometown in a less pressured circumstance. At the deadline then if the Cards are selling they hold possibly the two best bullpen arms available.
They also would have the option to keep one to allow them to be competitive but trade the other for a good return.

Not seeing this as a good option or the logic behind it. We have Matz who is pitching well. Instead of flipping him for prospects, we are going to trade him for a struggling pitcher we hope miraculously turns it around before we need to flip him in two months?

Why not just flip Matz who has higher trade value currently for prospects?

I say this as one of Matz biggest critics, he has been real good this year. He should be flipped for prospects.

34 years old. $12 million a year. Final year of the contract. Unlikely would get anything resembling a top prospect in return. Perhaps in late July if the Cards are not in contention he could be flipped for a project.

Williams' strikeout rate is dropped significantly. I suspect injury. It would be great to see a Suburban North athlete return home but probably not gonna happen at this stage.

His return will be more than Williams return.

[ScotchMIrish]

Matz to Yankees for Devin Williams? Williams has struggled in NY and Weaver is the closer. Yanks could use a good lh reliever for their bullpen. Money is about the same so not much savings or cost for either team.
My thinking is this, the Yankees have lost confidence in Williams. If you do this trade soon then you give Williams a chance to turn things around in his hometown in a less pressured circumstance. At the deadline then if the Cards are selling they hold possibly the two best bullpen arms available.
They also would have the option to keep one to allow them to be competitive but trade the other for a good return.

Not seeing this as a good option or the logic behind it. We have Matz who is pitching well. Instead of flipping him for prospects, we are going to trade him for a struggling pitcher we hope miraculously turns it around before we need to flip him in two months?

Why not just flip Matz who has higher trade value currently for prospects?

I say this as one of Matz biggest critics, he has been real good this year. He should be flipped for prospects.

34 years old. $12 million a year. Final year of the contract. Unlikely would get anything resembling a top prospect in return. Perhaps in late July if the Cards are not in contention he could be flipped for a project.

Williams' strikeout rate is dropped significantly. I suspect injury. It would be great to see a Suburban North athlete return home but probably not gonna happen at this stage.

His return will be more than Williams return.

Possible but that's not saying much. Stranger things have happened but I doubt he would bring much due to age.

[Bomber1]

Matz to Yankees for Devin Williams? Williams has struggled in NY and Weaver is the closer. Yanks could use a good lh reliever for their bullpen. Money is about the same so not much savings or cost for either team.
My thinking is this, the Yankees have lost confidence in Williams. If you do this trade soon then you give Williams a chance to turn things around in his hometown in a less pressured circumstance. At the deadline then if the Cards are selling they hold possibly the two best bullpen arms available.
They also would have the option to keep one to allow them to be competitive but trade the other for a good return.

Not seeing this as a good option or the logic behind it. We have Matz who is pitching well. Instead of flipping him for prospects, we are going to trade him for a struggling pitcher we hope miraculously turns it around before we need to flip him in two months?

Why not just flip Matz who has higher trade value currently for prospects?

I say this as one of Matz biggest critics, he has been real good this year. He should be flipped for prospects.

+1 and well stated.

And I might be Matz biggest critic.