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Re: Army's next move of Desperation (Filling the 2C)

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DawgDad wrote: 14 May 2025 11:27 am
seattleblue wrote: 14 May 2025 10:10 am People spend their completely finite energy and attention in patterns that bring them something.
You absolutely cannot control another person with words on a forum and you definitely can't get them to change if you insult them as a person

Some people say "this person's standards are low, they don't care about that, so I don't have to care about it either" and they just reply to the person they perceive as craving negativity and go on with their day and the cycle continues. Obviously the original person is getting something out of the negative attention. I have a guess: negative attention is still attention.

I'm trying something a little different since as was referenced the tactic of calling out everyone who responds is also unworkable, but also just giving up and letting things slide into cesspool degrades the legitimate experience of the other 100+ people here. So my approach has been: Positive attention to the person, negative attention to the ideas, BUT ALSO a relatively limited shelf life in responding substantively each day a new thread is posted. BUT ALSO not a long memory so that the person has room to start fresh any time.

The reason for not a long memory is this, and I think it goes to the thesis of the OP which is: something in the past was painful and it's inappropriate go just go on like it never happened. Here's what wisdom the OP overlooks. Everything changes, the nature of life is change. You cannot get a single emotion that you have to stay fixed, you cannot. And that has the result of, over time, making the past full of both misery and pleasure you can't touch. You have to leave the present some room to change because it's natural law.
Invariably it leads with a false premise.
Human beings are unreliable narrators, all of us.

I am advocating refusing to compromise one's own self in reply. When you're nice to someone in a situation, not sarcastically nice but actually nice, it leaves them little room to take the conversation. It's REALLY hard to get a rise out of people who are being nice to you.
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blackinkbiz wrote: 14 May 2025 09:44 am Additionally, I've been banned about 10x for the most inconsequential ridiculous garbage like posting a reply in a thread that someone else started and was later considered political. Yet somehow this guy has been reported thousands of times without reproach yet continues to have several hours a day to waste on this place?

Something doesn't add up. lmao
You are giving me the creeps! I have no idea what users have been reported, and somehow he/she knows that I've been reported 1000s of times. How did you even find that out.

Meanwhile, I'm completely unaware of being reported.

Conclusion:
ASOGG is as clean as a hound's tooth. He knows how to make a point while staying in the courteous lane.

Thank you to the Moderators for not letting the mob silence the opinions of respectful fans.
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Re: Army's next move of Desperation (Filling the 2C)

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seattleblue wrote: 14 May 2025 11:33 am
DawgDad wrote: 14 May 2025 11:27 am
seattleblue wrote: 14 May 2025 10:10 am People spend their completely finite energy and attention in patterns that bring them something.
You absolutely cannot control another person with words on a forum and you definitely can't get them to change if you insult them as a person

Some people say "this person's standards are low, they don't care about that, so I don't have to care about it either" and they just reply to the person they perceive as craving negativity and go on with their day and the cycle continues. Obviously the original person is getting something out of the negative attention. I have a guess: negative attention is still attention.

I'm trying something a little different since as was referenced the tactic of calling out everyone who responds is also unworkable, but also just giving up and letting things slide into cesspool degrades the legitimate experience of the other 100+ people here. So my approach has been: Positive attention to the person, negative attention to the ideas, BUT ALSO a relatively limited shelf life in responding substantively each day a new thread is posted. BUT ALSO not a long memory so that the person has room to start fresh any time.

The reason for not a long memory is this, and I think it goes to the thesis of the OP which is: something in the past was painful and it's inappropriate go just go on like it never happened. Here's what wisdom the OP overlooks. Everything changes, the nature of life is change. You cannot get a single emotion that you have to stay fixed, you cannot. And that has the result of, over time, making the past full of both misery and pleasure you can't touch. You have to leave the present some room to change because it's natural law.
Invariably it leads with a false premise.
Human beings are unreliable narrators, all of us.

I am advocating refusing to compromise one's own self in reply. When you're nice to someone in a situation, not sarcastically nice but actually nice, it leaves them little room to take the conversation. It's REALLY hard to get a rise out of people who are being nice to you.
You're dipping your toes into false equivalency. Also, being nice to someone in certain cases might actually be condescension, sarcasm. Can't always tell.

This is a forum for discussing pertinent topics and posting topical news and links. My topical comment is I consider the thread topic to be a false premise. Others might agree or disagree. This and the aside reply to you exhausts my attention span.
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IMHO, anyone that addresses themselves in the third person has serious issues.
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Aesa wrote: 14 May 2025 11:59 am IMHO, anyone that addresses themselves in the third person has serious issues.
Aesa, Netboy65 wholeheartedly agrees! :lol: :lol:
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Aesa wrote: 14 May 2025 08:34 am
George Zipp wrote: 14 May 2025 08:04 am
Frank Underwood wrote: 14 May 2025 07:50 am This is just getting boring. Time for a new name, a new character with a new shtick.
I have never advocated for others using the foe feature. I used to get so bored when 16W and a whole slew of others would constantly complain about quoting bleeder because they ignored him and didn't want to see his posts. I have no problem with bleeder so never understood. Now I do. Not going to tell you what to do and I'm not going to ask people to stop quoting this booger eater (lots of others already have taken that) but you should consider.

And I've mentioned this more than once but you should have seen his act on current affairs. You think this nonsense is bad, it was a giant joke over there. His schtick there was and impending civil war. Always touting it and his tag line (much like his army tag lines here) was "Choose your side wisely." He denies it but he's lying, like he does here. I know there are others here who can verify. I'm guessing batolli saw it when he posted there. Brummer for sure saw it. There is a chance that Burton and Aesa remember. Just paints a good pic of what you are dealing with.

And it's never going to stop. It's like the infected in Last of Us. It's just going to continue to spawn.
Most definitely remember, George and your post is spot on.
You are making me blush. Those writings occurred at least 7 years ago.

So what other author's writings do you remember so well? Twain? Dickens? By chance, do you have any of my old writings? It would be fun and insightful for you to see how accurate they were.

Why would I deny anything that I wrote? Never. As with my Blues comments, I'm just the messenger, pointing out the obvious and common sense.
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netboy65 wrote: 14 May 2025 12:02 pm
Aesa wrote: 14 May 2025 11:59 am IMHO, anyone that addresses themselves in the third person has serious issues.
Aesa, Netboy65 wholeheartedly agrees! :lol: :lol:
8) :lol:
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Re: Army's next move of Desperation (Filling the 2C)

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DawgDad wrote: 14 May 2025 11:58 am
seattleblue wrote: 14 May 2025 11:33 am
DawgDad wrote: 14 May 2025 11:27 am
seattleblue wrote: 14 May 2025 10:10 am People spend their completely finite energy and attention in patterns that bring them something.
You absolutely cannot control another person with words on a forum and you definitely can't get them to change if you insult them as a person

Some people say "this person's standards are low, they don't care about that, so I don't have to care about it either" and they just reply to the person they perceive as craving negativity and go on with their day and the cycle continues. Obviously the original person is getting something out of the negative attention. I have a guess: negative attention is still attention.

I'm trying something a little different since as was referenced the tactic of calling out everyone who responds is also unworkable, but also just giving up and letting things slide into cesspool degrades the legitimate experience of the other 100+ people here. So my approach has been: Positive attention to the person, negative attention to the ideas, BUT ALSO a relatively limited shelf life in responding substantively each day a new thread is posted. BUT ALSO not a long memory so that the person has room to start fresh any time.

The reason for not a long memory is this, and I think it goes to the thesis of the OP which is: something in the past was painful and it's inappropriate go just go on like it never happened. Here's what wisdom the OP overlooks. Everything changes, the nature of life is change. You cannot get a single emotion that you have to stay fixed, you cannot. And that has the result of, over time, making the past full of both misery and pleasure you can't touch. You have to leave the present some room to change because it's natural law.
Invariably it leads with a false premise.
Human beings are unreliable narrators, all of us.

I am advocating refusing to compromise one's own self in reply. When you're nice to someone in a situation, not sarcastically nice but actually nice, it leaves them little room to take the conversation. It's REALLY hard to get a rise out of people who are being nice to you.
You're dipping your toes into false equivalency. Also, being nice to someone in certain cases might actually be condescension, sarcasm. Can't always tell.

This is a forum for discussing pertinent topics and posting topical news and links. My topical comment is I consider the thread topic to be a false premise. Others might agree or disagree. This and the aside reply to you exhausts my attention span.
I think it's also a false premise, it's not desperation. I think there's one person framing it as "desperation."

I can understand having it exhaust your attention span, but also ... we are now only even talking about it because you quoted me and gave it some attention. I see something of a pivot point in the way these interactions can go here because the personal insults have really been coming from one side lately and it's not the side you have a problem with. Therefore because I sense this potential pivot point, I am offering my own perspective in a thread where this dynamic being openly discussed. Others might agree or disagree as well. Just a perspective.
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Re: Army's next move of Desperation (Filling the 2C)

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Aesa wrote: 14 May 2025 11:59 am IMHO, anyone that addresses themselves in the third person has serious issues.
Jimmy likes Elaine.

Jimmy's down. Jimmy's going to get Kramer. Nobody messes with Jimmy :D
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seattleblue wrote: 14 May 2025 12:09 pm
DawgDad wrote: 14 May 2025 11:58 am
seattleblue wrote: 14 May 2025 11:33 am
DawgDad wrote: 14 May 2025 11:27 am
seattleblue wrote: 14 May 2025 10:10 am People spend their completely finite energy and attention in patterns that bring them something.
You absolutely cannot control another person with words on a forum and you definitely can't get them to change if you insult them as a person

Some people say "this person's standards are low, they don't care about that, so I don't have to care about it either" and they just reply to the person they perceive as craving negativity and go on with their day and the cycle continues. Obviously the original person is getting something out of the negative attention. I have a guess: negative attention is still attention.

I'm trying something a little different since as was referenced the tactic of calling out everyone who responds is also unworkable, but also just giving up and letting things slide into cesspool degrades the legitimate experience of the other 100+ people here. So my approach has been: Positive attention to the person, negative attention to the ideas, BUT ALSO a relatively limited shelf life in responding substantively each day a new thread is posted. BUT ALSO not a long memory so that the person has room to start fresh any time.

The reason for not a long memory is this, and I think it goes to the thesis of the OP which is: something in the past was painful and it's inappropriate go just go on like it never happened. Here's what wisdom the OP overlooks. Everything changes, the nature of life is change. You cannot get a single emotion that you have to stay fixed, you cannot. And that has the result of, over time, making the past full of both misery and pleasure you can't touch. You have to leave the present some room to change because it's natural law.

Invariably it leads with a false premise.
Human beings are unreliable narrators, all of us.

I am advocating refusing to compromise one's own self in reply. When you're nice to someone in a situation, not sarcastically nice but actually nice, it leaves them little room to take the conversation. It's REALLY hard to get a rise out of people who are being nice to you.
You're dipping your toes into false equivalency. Also, being nice to someone in certain cases might actually be condescension, sarcasm. Can't always tell.

This is a forum for discussing pertinent topics and posting topical news and links. My topical comment is I consider the thread topic to be a false premise. Others might agree or disagree. This and the aside reply to you exhausts my attention span.
I think it's also a false premise, it's not desperation. I think there's one person framing it as "desperation."

I can understand having it exhaust your attention span, but also ... we are now only even talking about it because you quoted me and gave it some attention. I see something of a pivot point in the way these interactions can go here because the personal insults have really been coming from one side lately and it's not the side you have a problem with. Therefore because I sense this potential pivot point, I am offering my own perspective in a thread where this dynamic being openly discussed. Others might agree or disagree as well. Just a perspective.
Here's my perspective for what it's worth. I have ASOGG on ignore because I just got tired of reading his nonsense & realizing the attitude he had behind it. A lot of times I check into the forum without logging in because a lot of times I don't post anything, just want to see what's being discussed. Of course though, that means his responses & posts are available to see easily.

Referring to "some room to change", I'm more than willing to do that for someone. In my life I've really come to know the importance of forgiving, second chances, & not taking offense & holding grudges. At the same time, that doesn't mean there can be any kind of cordial or healthy relationship until the offending person realizes their actions & behavior. Not to go too far down the pyschological or spiritual road, but the truth is that without truth there can be no genuine change.

When he told the whole forum he would be leaving if the Blues won a playoff game & then didn't do it OR if he had been willing to admit that maybe he was wrong about some things & wanted to still post & discuss the Blues. No problem. Would have read more of what he posted. The truth is that he's not a person of his word. And we're talking about a sports forum. Makes you wonder what his real life is like.
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stlblues1979 wrote: 14 May 2025 12:52 pm
seattleblue wrote: 14 May 2025 12:09 pm
DawgDad wrote: 14 May 2025 11:58 am
seattleblue wrote: 14 May 2025 11:33 am
DawgDad wrote: 14 May 2025 11:27 am
seattleblue wrote: 14 May 2025 10:10 am People spend their completely finite energy and attention in patterns that bring them something.
You absolutely cannot control another person with words on a forum and you definitely can't get them to change if you insult them as a person

Some people say "this person's standards are low, they don't care about that, so I don't have to care about it either" and they just reply to the person they perceive as craving negativity and go on with their day and the cycle continues. Obviously the original person is getting something out of the negative attention. I have a guess: negative attention is still attention.

I'm trying something a little different since as was referenced the tactic of calling out everyone who responds is also unworkable, but also just giving up and letting things slide into cesspool degrades the legitimate experience of the other 100+ people here. So my approach has been: Positive attention to the person, negative attention to the ideas, BUT ALSO a relatively limited shelf life in responding substantively each day a new thread is posted. BUT ALSO not a long memory so that the person has room to start fresh any time.

The reason for not a long memory is this, and I think it goes to the thesis of the OP which is: something in the past was painful and it's inappropriate go just go on like it never happened. Here's what wisdom the OP overlooks. Everything changes, the nature of life is change. You cannot get a single emotion that you have to stay fixed, you cannot. And that has the result of, over time, making the past full of both misery and pleasure you can't touch. You have to leave the present some room to change because it's natural law.

Invariably it leads with a false premise.
Human beings are unreliable narrators, all of us.

I am advocating refusing to compromise one's own self in reply. When you're nice to someone in a situation, not sarcastically nice but actually nice, it leaves them little room to take the conversation. It's REALLY hard to get a rise out of people who are being nice to you.
You're dipping your toes into false equivalency. Also, being nice to someone in certain cases might actually be condescension, sarcasm. Can't always tell.

This is a forum for discussing pertinent topics and posting topical news and links. My topical comment is I consider the thread topic to be a false premise. Others might agree or disagree. This and the aside reply to you exhausts my attention span.
I think it's also a false premise, it's not desperation. I think there's one person framing it as "desperation."

I can understand having it exhaust your attention span, but also ... we are now only even talking about it because you quoted me and gave it some attention. I see something of a pivot point in the way these interactions can go here because the personal insults have really been coming from one side lately and it's not the side you have a problem with. Therefore because I sense this potential pivot point, I am offering my own perspective in a thread where this dynamic being openly discussed. Others might agree or disagree as well. Just a perspective.
Here's my perspective for what it's worth. I have ASOGG on ignore because I just got tired of reading his nonsense & realizing the attitude he had behind it. A lot of times I check into the forum without logging in because a lot of times I don't post anything, just want to see what's being discussed. Of course though, that means his responses & posts are available to see easily.

Referring to "some room to change", I'm more than willing to do that for someone. In my life I've really come to know the importance of forgiving, second chances, & not taking offense & holding grudges. At the same time, that doesn't mean there can be any kind of cordial or healthy relationship until the offending person realizes their actions & behavior. Not to go too far down the pyschological or spiritual road, but the truth is that without truth there can be no genuine change.

When he told the whole forum he would be leaving if the Blues won a playoff game & then didn't do it OR if he had been willing to admit that maybe he was wrong about some things & wanted to still post & discuss the Blues. No problem. Would have read more of what he posted. The truth is that he's not a person of his word. And we're talking about a sports forum. Makes you wonder what his real life is like.
When you're making an attempt to hold yourself internally consistent and coherent then it can be maddening to wrestle with an argument that has no principles around that. It violates the unwritten rules of good discourse without violating the terms of service. There are people in any group situation who are going to figure out how to get attention while remaining in the group. See I think secretly deep down the "foes" want real respect in life like we all do even if they seem to be determined to execute creating the opposite effect. It's almost like they have never figured out how to get it, and so we must all suffer the consequences. If you offer such a person respect even if it doesn't feel like they've earned it, then you're out clean because you have offered them real value and they're not taking it at this time. Give respect without being attached to whether it is returned. That in general just goes a long long way in life.
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Re: Army's next move of Desperation (Filling the 2C)

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seattleblue wrote: 14 May 2025 13:27 pm
stlblues1979 wrote: 14 May 2025 12:52 pm
seattleblue wrote: 14 May 2025 12:09 pm
DawgDad wrote: 14 May 2025 11:58 am
seattleblue wrote: 14 May 2025 11:33 am
DawgDad wrote: 14 May 2025 11:27 am
seattleblue wrote: 14 May 2025 10:10 am People spend their completely finite energy and attention in patterns that bring them something.
You absolutely cannot control another person with words on a forum and you definitely can't get them to change if you insult them as a person

Some people say "this person's standards are low, they don't care about that, so I don't have to care about it either" and they just reply to the person they perceive as craving negativity and go on with their day and the cycle continues. Obviously the original person is getting something out of the negative attention. I have a guess: negative attention is still attention.

I'm trying something a little different since as was referenced the tactic of calling out everyone who responds is also unworkable, but also just giving up and letting things slide into cesspool degrades the legitimate experience of the other 100+ people here. So my approach has been: Positive attention to the person, negative attention to the ideas, BUT ALSO a relatively limited shelf life in responding substantively each day a new thread is posted. BUT ALSO not a long memory so that the person has room to start fresh any time.

The reason for not a long memory is this, and I think it goes to the thesis of the OP which is: something in the past was painful and it's inappropriate go just go on like it never happened. Here's what wisdom the OP overlooks. Everything changes, the nature of life is change. You cannot get a single emotion that you have to stay fixed, you cannot. And that has the result of, over time, making the past full of both misery and pleasure you can't touch. You have to leave the present some room to change because it's natural law.

Invariably it leads with a false premise.
Human beings are unreliable narrators, all of us.

I am advocating refusing to compromise one's own self in reply. When you're nice to someone in a situation, not sarcastically nice but actually nice, it leaves them little room to take the conversation. It's REALLY hard to get a rise out of people who are being nice to you.
You're dipping your toes into false equivalency. Also, being nice to someone in certain cases might actually be condescension, sarcasm. Can't always tell.

This is a forum for discussing pertinent topics and posting topical news and links. My topical comment is I consider the thread topic to be a false premise. Others might agree or disagree. This and the aside reply to you exhausts my attention span.
I think it's also a false premise, it's not desperation. I think there's one person framing it as "desperation."

I can understand having it exhaust your attention span, but also ... we are now only even talking about it because you quoted me and gave it some attention. I see something of a pivot point in the way these interactions can go here because the personal insults have really been coming from one side lately and it's not the side you have a problem with. Therefore because I sense this potential pivot point, I am offering my own perspective in a thread where this dynamic being openly discussed. Others might agree or disagree as well. Just a perspective.
Here's my perspective for what it's worth. I have ASOGG on ignore because I just got tired of reading his nonsense & realizing the attitude he had behind it. A lot of times I check into the forum without logging in because a lot of times I don't post anything, just want to see what's being discussed. Of course though, that means his responses & posts are available to see easily.

Referring to "some room to change", I'm more than willing to do that for someone. In my life I've really come to know the importance of forgiving, second chances, & not taking offense & holding grudges. At the same time, that doesn't mean there can be any kind of cordial or healthy relationship until the offending person realizes their actions & behavior. Not to go too far down the pyschological or spiritual road, but the truth is that without truth there can be no genuine change.

When he told the whole forum he would be leaving if the Blues won a playoff game & then didn't do it OR if he had been willing to admit that maybe he was wrong about some things & wanted to still post & discuss the Blues. No problem. Would have read more of what he posted. The truth is that he's not a person of his word. And we're talking about a sports forum. Makes you wonder what his real life is like.
When you're making an attempt to hold yourself internally consistent and coherent then it can be maddening to wrestle with an argument that has no principles around that. It violates the unwritten rules of good discourse without violating the terms of service. There are people in any group situation who are going to figure out how to get attention while remaining in the group. See I think secretly deep down the "foes" want real respect in life like we all do even if they seem to be determined to execute creating the opposite effect. It's almost like they have never figured out how to get it, and so we must all suffer the consequences. If you offer such a person respect even if it doesn't feel like they've earned it, then you're out clean because you have offered them real value and they're not taking it at this time. Give respect without being attached to whether it is returned. That in general just goes a long long way in life.
I appreciate your thoughts, but probably see things a little differently. But you know, that's all right. We're good. I'm more than willing to give someone many chances & if you consider that respect, then we're in agreement. I tend to link trust with respect though. A healthy life will see someone being recipient of mercy & grace (gifts) and being trustworthy & respectful (virtues that are earned.)

Back to hockey, I do want to say how much I appreciate your insight & your sharing info on amateur hockey especially how it relates to the Blues. I'll probably miss a few, but STl-MN, Pierre, kimzey, Hockey Pete, yourself add so much to this forum regarding the up & coming players & prospects.I've loved St. Louis sports all my life & always enjoyed when the new generation of players were making their way through, regardless of what sport.

You guys have provided a lot of insight which I'm thankful for & as we near the draft, can't wait to see what you guys post. Keep us informed. Much appreciated.
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Re: Army's next move of Desperation (Filling the 2C)

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stlblues1979 wrote: 14 May 2025 14:23 pm
seattleblue wrote: 14 May 2025 13:27 pm
stlblues1979 wrote: 14 May 2025 12:52 pm
seattleblue wrote: 14 May 2025 12:09 pm
DawgDad wrote: 14 May 2025 11:58 am
seattleblue wrote: 14 May 2025 11:33 am
DawgDad wrote: 14 May 2025 11:27 am
seattleblue wrote: 14 May 2025 10:10 am People spend their completely finite energy and attention in patterns that bring them something.
You absolutely cannot control another person with words on a forum and you definitely can't get them to change if you insult them as a person

Some people say "this person's standards are low, they don't care about that, so I don't have to care about it either" and they just reply to the person they perceive as craving negativity and go on with their day and the cycle continues. Obviously the original person is getting something out of the negative attention. I have a guess: negative attention is still attention.

I'm trying something a little different since as was referenced the tactic of calling out everyone who responds is also unworkable, but also just giving up and letting things slide into cesspool degrades the legitimate experience of the other 100+ people here. So my approach has been: Positive attention to the person, negative attention to the ideas, BUT ALSO a relatively limited shelf life in responding substantively each day a new thread is posted. BUT ALSO not a long memory so that the person has room to start fresh any time.

The reason for not a long memory is this, and I think it goes to the thesis of the OP which is: something in the past was painful and it's inappropriate go just go on like it never happened. Here's what wisdom the OP overlooks. Everything changes, the nature of life is change. You cannot get a single emotion that you have to stay fixed, you cannot. And that has the result of, over time, making the past full of both misery and pleasure you can't touch. You have to leave the present some room to change because it's natural law.

Invariably it leads with a false premise.
Human beings are unreliable narrators, all of us.

I am advocating refusing to compromise one's own self in reply. When you're nice to someone in a situation, not sarcastically nice but actually nice, it leaves them little room to take the conversation. It's REALLY hard to get a rise out of people who are being nice to you.
You're dipping your toes into false equivalency. Also, being nice to someone in certain cases might actually be condescension, sarcasm. Can't always tell.

This is a forum for discussing pertinent topics and posting topical news and links. My topical comment is I consider the thread topic to be a false premise. Others might agree or disagree. This and the aside reply to you exhausts my attention span.
I think it's also a false premise, it's not desperation. I think there's one person framing it as "desperation."

I can understand having it exhaust your attention span, but also ... we are now only even talking about it because you quoted me and gave it some attention. I see something of a pivot point in the way these interactions can go here because the personal insults have really been coming from one side lately and it's not the side you have a problem with. Therefore because I sense this potential pivot point, I am offering my own perspective in a thread where this dynamic being openly discussed. Others might agree or disagree as well. Just a perspective.
Here's my perspective for what it's worth. I have ASOGG on ignore because I just got tired of reading his nonsense & realizing the attitude he had behind it. A lot of times I check into the forum without logging in because a lot of times I don't post anything, just want to see what's being discussed. Of course though, that means his responses & posts are available to see easily.

Referring to "some room to change", I'm more than willing to do that for someone. In my life I've really come to know the importance of forgiving, second chances, & not taking offense & holding grudges. At the same time, that doesn't mean there can be any kind of cordial or healthy relationship until the offending person realizes their actions & behavior. Not to go too far down the pyschological or spiritual road, but the truth is that without truth there can be no genuine change.

When he told the whole forum he would be leaving if the Blues won a playoff game & then didn't do it OR if he had been willing to admit that maybe he was wrong about some things & wanted to still post & discuss the Blues. No problem. Would have read more of what he posted. The truth is that he's not a person of his word. And we're talking about a sports forum. Makes you wonder what his real life is like.
When you're making an attempt to hold yourself internally consistent and coherent then it can be maddening to wrestle with an argument that has no principles around that. It violates the unwritten rules of good discourse without violating the terms of service. There are people in any group situation who are going to figure out how to get attention while remaining in the group. See I think secretly deep down the "foes" want real respect in life like we all do even if they seem to be determined to execute creating the opposite effect. It's almost like they have never figured out how to get it, and so we must all suffer the consequences. If you offer such a person respect even if it doesn't feel like they've earned it, then you're out clean because you have offered them real value and they're not taking it at this time. Give respect without being attached to whether it is returned. That in general just goes a long long way in life.
I appreciate your thoughts, but probably see things a little differently. But you know, that's all right. We're good. I'm more than willing to give someone many chances & if you consider that respect, then we're in agreement. I tend to link trust with respect though. A healthy life will see someone being recipient of mercy & grace (gifts) and being trustworthy & respectful (virtues that are earned.)

Back to hockey, I do want to say how much I appreciate your insight & your sharing info on amateur hockey especially how it relates to the Blues. I'll probably miss a few, but STl-MN, Pierre, kimzey, Hockey Pete, yourself add so much to this forum regarding the up & coming players & prospects.I've loved St. Louis sports all my life & always enjoyed when the new generation of players were making their way through, regardless of what sport.

You guys have provided a lot of insight which I'm thankful for & as we near the draft, can't wait to see what you guys post. Keep us informed. Much appreciated.
I appreciate the welcoming words! Thank you.
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Re: Army's next move of Desperation (Filling the 2C)

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blackinkbiz wrote: 14 May 2025 09:44 am
2forDiving wrote: 14 May 2025 09:13 am
a smell of green grass wrote: 14 May 2025 05:05 am Tis the season for the Chief to fill the most glaring roster hole as soon as possible. Get our your desperation meter, folks. The mother lode is coming.

We all know how the desperate moves ultimately pan out. Last year, we drafted Jiricek in Round 1. The fans had been promised something to make us forget Pietrangelo, and all we got was a defense that grew older and worse every year. Five Perunovich years had solved nothing. Desperation hung over the defense like a perpetual puck in the crease. So Army drafted the oft-injured Jiricek because he can skate like a Superstar. Buium was gone because the Blues "stay competitve" to avoid all the problems that come with a "losing culture". One year later, where do we sit? With Jiricek in the medical waiting room, watching Buium on YouTube videos.

This year, the desperation is over the 2C position. Our draft position is bad, so the desperation can't be solved that way. Instead, Army is going to resort to the massive overpay for a veteran fix. Make a note in your calender 2 years out. When you are asking yourself how we got saddled with YET ANOTHER expensive, declining veteran for 3 more years, remember Army's desperation in May 2025.
Does reality just pass you by every day? You must live in an alternate universe, because the one you write about doesn’t exist. At least not in context to what you post. I will just keep saying it, no one can willingly be this obtuse. You either have to work for the P-D and prostitute yourself for clicks, or you are in dire need of psychological assistance.
I've reached the point where I think he has to be a mod or as you said, works for the PD and is just trolling the board in order to troll, ehhh, the PD? It wouldn't surprise me if he is Dierker. Something about the way Dierker composes his diction is very similar to green funk. Because while their anti-spam/troll prevention systems aren't unbeatable, they are fairly advanced, at least in terms of message board security. They not only match footprints from one account to another, they do IP reputation lookups which typically means you have to either spend money to get clean, residential-based IPs, or you spend hours searching through VPN/proxy network IPs to find usable ones, or the easy one, you have a backdoor in because you're the site's admin.

The first two options actually require time and effort and/or money and you would have to be a mentally deranged person to waste months of your life trying to convince a bunch of dudes who obviously don't care about your ideas. Additionally, I've been banned about 10x for the most inconsequential ridiculous garbage like posting a reply in a thread that someone else started and was later considered political. Yet somehow this guy has been reported thousands of times without reproach yet continues to have several hours a day to waste on this place?

Something doesn't add up. lmao
Just so you know i had a chat with dierker about the clowns on this site and he said that its up to us to ignore them and not his job to police them. LOL so its our fault they are around. LOL.
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Re: Army's next move of Desperation (Filling the 2C)

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I'd like to bring this quote to your attention.

Great minds discuss ideas.
Average minds discuss events.
Small minds discuss people.
- Elanor Roosevelt


Please note....
ASOGG discusses ideas.
Many people on this post discuss people.
Some people on this post talk about people and events that happened 7+ years ago.

Here's to a tomorrow of more talk about ideas, and less talk about people.

Cheers. Be back every day for more ideas from ASOGG.
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Re: Army's next move of Desperation (Filling the 2C)

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It’s funny that someone smelling green grass never gets outside to actually touch it.
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