Would the Pirates trade Skenes for both Walker and Gorman?

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Re: Would the Pirates trade Skenes for both Walker and Gorman?

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greyhawk wrote: 08 May 2025 18:11 pm
Shady wrote: 08 May 2025 18:09 pm
greyhawk wrote: 08 May 2025 18:05 pm
JohnnyMO wrote: 08 May 2025 17:46 pm
Shady wrote: 08 May 2025 17:22 pm So Walker and Gorman for Skenes is considered out of the question. Then what, realistically, could a Walker/Gorman package bring? Give an example or two of what kind of return the Cardinals could get for Walker and Gorman, together, in a deal. Rafael Devers maybe? Come on, peanut gallery GMs. Let's see what you got.
Throw in Arenado and they might consider it.
don't forget roddery munoz -- the next great cy young pitcher... i don't think the pirates could contain themselves if he was included.
As usual, just bullkrap from you.
yeah i have fun, i never call you out but i certainly make fun of some of the stuff you put out there :)
Hey don’t forget about Svanson!!
Rumor has it that if you get him in a deal he brings along a truckload of TV Dinners!!!
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Re: Would the Pirates trade Skenes for both Walker and Gorman?

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Cusecards wrote: 08 May 2025 17:57 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 07 May 2025 14:19 pm
Shady wrote: 07 May 2025 14:10 pm
Jatalk wrote: 07 May 2025 12:43 pm An open post to Shady:

Shady I have tried to come to your defense many times as you often get bashed by the CT Bully Patrol. I will continue to do so, but dude I have to tell you that you have it coming with this thread. You are WAY WAY off on this one. Be better man!
Please try to decipher that I didn't propose this trade. I just threw it out there. Thanks for being a respectful CT poster.
8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O

What the heck is the difference?
Not proposing this trade just throwing it out there:
Saggese, Gorman, and McGreevy for Ohtani.
Dodgers kick in $200M to even it out.
Not proposing this trade, just throwing it out there.

Burleson for the bones of Gehrig & Ruth. Would the Cards do it?
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Re: Would the Pirates trade Skenes for both Walker and Gorman?

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greyhawk wrote: 08 May 2025 18:11 pm
Shady wrote: 08 May 2025 18:09 pm
greyhawk wrote: 08 May 2025 18:05 pm
JohnnyMO wrote: 08 May 2025 17:46 pm
Shady wrote: 08 May 2025 17:22 pm So Walker and Gorman for Skenes is considered out of the question. Then what, realistically, could a Walker/Gorman package bring? Give an example or two of what kind of return the Cardinals could get for Walker and Gorman, together, in a deal. Rafael Devers maybe? Come on, peanut gallery GMs. Let's see what you got.
Throw in Arenado and they might consider it.
don't forget roddery munoz -- the next great cy young pitcher... i don't think the pirates could contain themselves if he was included.
As usual, just bullkrap from you.
yeah i have fun, i never call you out but i certainly make fun of some of the stuff you put out there :)
So what is your trade proposal offering Walker and Gorman? Who is a realistic target in a Walker/Gorman package.
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Re: Would the Pirates trade Skenes for both Walker and Gorman?

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Shady wrote: 08 May 2025 17:22 pm So Walker and Gorman for Skenes is considered out of the question. Then what, realistically, could a Walker/Gorman package bring? Give an example or two of what kind of return the Cardinals could get for Walker and Gorman, together, in a deal. Rafael Devers maybe? Come on, peanut gallery GMs. Let's see what you got.
This year is about Bloom evaluating Gorman, Walker, et al. I'd be stunned if they were traded mid-season. I'd also be stunned if Bloom started his POBO tenure trading for Devers. His cost and friction with the Red Sox FO don't add up to a Bloom or DeWitt-type move. As for what Walker and Gorman could get that's a November question.
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Re: Would the Pirates trade Skenes for both Walker and Gorman?

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Monsieur De Treville wrote: 08 May 2025 18:20 pm
Cusecards wrote: 08 May 2025 17:57 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 07 May 2025 14:19 pm
Shady wrote: 07 May 2025 14:10 pm
Jatalk wrote: 07 May 2025 12:43 pm An open post to Shady:

Shady I have tried to come to your defense many times as you often get bashed by the CT Bully Patrol. I will continue to do so, but dude I have to tell you that you have it coming with this thread. You are WAY WAY off on this one. Be better man!
Please try to decipher that I didn't propose this trade. I just threw it out there. Thanks for being a respectful CT poster.
8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O

What the heck is the difference?
Not proposing this trade just throwing it out there:
Saggese, Gorman, and McGreevy for Ohtani.
Dodgers kick in $200M to even it out.
Not proposing this trade, just throwing it out there.

Burleson for the bones of Gehrig & Ruth. Would the Cards do it?
You are a dunce. You think you are so brilliant. Let's see some creativity. Who do you feel Walker/Gorman could get, realistically, for the Cardinals. Enough of the comedy. That's not your thing.
Last edited by Shady on 08 May 2025 18:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Would the Pirates trade Skenes for both Walker and Gorman?

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Shady wrote: 08 May 2025 18:17 pm
Cusecards wrote: 08 May 2025 18:13 pm
Shady wrote: 08 May 2025 18:08 pm
Cusecards wrote: 08 May 2025 17:57 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 07 May 2025 14:19 pm
Shady wrote: 07 May 2025 14:10 pm
Jatalk wrote: 07 May 2025 12:43 pm An open post to Shady:

Shady I have tried to come to your defense many times as you often get bashed by the CT Bully Patrol. I will continue to do so, but dude I have to tell you that you have it coming with this thread. You are WAY WAY off on this one. Be better man!
Please try to decipher that I didn't propose this trade. I just threw it out there. Thanks for being a respectful CT poster.
8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O

What the heck is the difference?
Not proposing this trade just throwing it out there:
Saggese, Gorman, and McGreevy for Ohtani.
Dodgers kick in $200M to even it out.
Interesting. Thanks for participating. Wonder where the Bully Patrol gang are. They are pretty creative when harassing me. Maybe they can demonstrate some of that creativity in regards to this. LOL
Here’s my serious answer:
As of today has one more year(2026) before he reaches Arbitration(3 years).
That makes him a free agent in 2030.
It it true that based on Skenes career projection the Pirates will not be able to keep him.
But.....I would say that they have time to move him.
The Pirates aren't going anywhere for a while. If they feel Walker and Gorman have outstanding potential. The Walker/Gorman for Skenes may not be as ridiculous as some are making it out to be. Criticizing is easy. Let's see their suggestions.
You've been told by over a dozen posters...

It's THE most ridiculous idea you could've come up with.

The Pirates are not trading Skenes for a couple of failing prospects. It's simply a stupid idea of yours. Everyone thinks so.

Just because you share your stupid trade ideas, doesn't mean I have to come up with a stupid trade idea.
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Re: Would the Pirates trade Skenes for both Walker and Gorman?

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Monsieur De Treville wrote: 08 May 2025 18:20 pm
Cusecards wrote: 08 May 2025 17:57 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 07 May 2025 14:19 pm
Shady wrote: 07 May 2025 14:10 pm
Jatalk wrote: 07 May 2025 12:43 pm An open post to Shady:

Shady I have tried to come to your defense many times as you often get bashed by the CT Bully Patrol. I will continue to do so, but dude I have to tell you that you have it coming with this thread. You are WAY WAY off on this one. Be better man!
Please try to decipher that I didn't propose this trade. I just threw it out there. Thanks for being a respectful CT poster.
8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O

What the heck is the difference?
Not proposing this trade just throwing it out there:
Saggese, Gorman, and McGreevy for Ohtani.
Dodgers kick in $200M to even it out.
Not proposing this trade, just throwing it out there.

Burleson for the bones of Gehrig & Ruth. Would the Cards do it?
Interesting......
If ALL of the bones were included I’d jump on it.
You could reconstruct both skeletons and put one in Ballpark Village and the other in the Stadium!
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Re: Would the Pirates trade Skenes for both Walker and Gorman?

Post by Shady »

Monsieur De Treville wrote: 08 May 2025 18:25 pm
Shady wrote: 08 May 2025 18:17 pm
Cusecards wrote: 08 May 2025 18:13 pm
Shady wrote: 08 May 2025 18:08 pm
Cusecards wrote: 08 May 2025 17:57 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 07 May 2025 14:19 pm
Shady wrote: 07 May 2025 14:10 pm
Jatalk wrote: 07 May 2025 12:43 pm An open post to Shady:

Shady I have tried to come to your defense many times as you often get bashed by the CT Bully Patrol. I will continue to do so, but dude I have to tell you that you have it coming with this thread. You are WAY WAY off on this one. Be better man!
Please try to decipher that I didn't propose this trade. I just threw it out there. Thanks for being a respectful CT poster.
8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O

What the heck is the difference?
Not proposing this trade just throwing it out there:
Saggese, Gorman, and McGreevy for Ohtani.
Dodgers kick in $200M to even it out.
Interesting. Thanks for participating. Wonder where the Bully Patrol gang are. They are pretty creative when harassing me. Maybe they can demonstrate some of that creativity in regards to this. LOL
Here’s my serious answer:
As of today has one more year(2026) before he reaches Arbitration(3 years).
That makes him a free agent in 2030.
It it true that based on Skenes career projection the Pirates will not be able to keep him.
But.....I would say that they have time to move him.
The Pirates aren't going anywhere for a while. If they feel Walker and Gorman have outstanding potential. The Walker/Gorman for Skenes may not be as ridiculous as some are making it out to be. Criticizing is easy. Let's see their suggestions.
You've been told by over a dozen posters...

It's THE most ridiculous idea you could've come up with.

The Pirates are not trading Skenes for a couple of failing prospects. It's simply a stupid idea of yours. Everyone thinks so.

Just because you share your stupid trade ideas, doesn't mean I have to come up with a stupid trade idea.
You are an misguided, egotistical dunce. You think you are so brilliant. Let's see some of that brilliant creativity. Who do you feel Walker/Gorman could get, realistically, for the Cardinals. No ballzz, no glory. Enough of the comedy. That's not your thing.
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Re: Would the Pirates trade Skenes for both Walker and Gorman?

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Shady wrote: 08 May 2025 18:23 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 08 May 2025 18:20 pm
Cusecards wrote: 08 May 2025 17:57 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 07 May 2025 14:19 pm
Shady wrote: 07 May 2025 14:10 pm
Jatalk wrote: 07 May 2025 12:43 pm An open post to Shady:

Shady I have tried to come to your defense many times as you often get bashed by the CT Bully Patrol. I will continue to do so, but dude I have to tell you that you have it coming with this thread. You are WAY WAY off on this one. Be better man!
Please try to decipher that I didn't propose this trade. I just threw it out there. Thanks for being a respectful CT poster.
8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O

What the heck is the difference?
Not proposing this trade just throwing it out there:
Saggese, Gorman, and McGreevy for Ohtani.
Dodgers kick in $200M to even it out.
Not proposing this trade, just throwing it out there.

Burleson for the bones of Gehrig & Ruth. Would the Cards do it?
You are a dunce. You think you are so brilliant. Let's see some creativity. Who do you feel Walker/Gorman could get, realistically, for the Cardinals. Enough of the comedy. That's not your thing.
Wait a sec...do I think I'm brilliant or do I think I'm a comedian?

I have no idea what the Cards could get for Walker/Gorman. None. But...they're not getting Skenes. They're not getting a young Superstar. That's just ridiculous.
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Re: Would the Pirates trade Skenes for both Walker and Gorman?

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Cusecards wrote: 08 May 2025 18:26 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 08 May 2025 18:20 pm
Cusecards wrote: 08 May 2025 17:57 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 07 May 2025 14:19 pm
Shady wrote: 07 May 2025 14:10 pm
Jatalk wrote: 07 May 2025 12:43 pm An open post to Shady:

Shady I have tried to come to your defense many times as you often get bashed by the CT Bully Patrol. I will continue to do so, but dude I have to tell you that you have it coming with this thread. You are WAY WAY off on this one. Be better man!
Please try to decipher that I didn't propose this trade. I just threw it out there. Thanks for being a respectful CT poster.
8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O

What the heck is the difference?
Not proposing this trade just throwing it out there:
Saggese, Gorman, and McGreevy for Ohtani.
Dodgers kick in $200M to even it out.
Not proposing this trade, just throwing it out there.

Burleson for the bones of Gehrig & Ruth. Would the Cards do it?
Interesting......
If ALL of the bones were included I’d jump on it.
You could reconstruct both skeletons and put one in Ballpark Village and the other in the Stadium!
Get 'er done, Mo!
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Re: Would the Pirates trade Skenes for both Walker and Gorman?

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Shady wrote: 08 May 2025 18:28 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 08 May 2025 18:25 pm
Shady wrote: 08 May 2025 18:17 pm
Cusecards wrote: 08 May 2025 18:13 pm
Shady wrote: 08 May 2025 18:08 pm
Cusecards wrote: 08 May 2025 17:57 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 07 May 2025 14:19 pm
Shady wrote: 07 May 2025 14:10 pm
Jatalk wrote: 07 May 2025 12:43 pm An open post to Shady:

Shady I have tried to come to your defense many times as you often get bashed by the CT Bully Patrol. I will continue to do so, but dude I have to tell you that you have it coming with this thread. You are WAY WAY off on this one. Be better man!
Please try to decipher that I didn't propose this trade. I just threw it out there. Thanks for being a respectful CT poster.
8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O

What the heck is the difference?
Not proposing this trade just throwing it out there:
Saggese, Gorman, and McGreevy for Ohtani.
Dodgers kick in $200M to even it out.
Interesting. Thanks for participating. Wonder where the Bully Patrol gang are. They are pretty creative when harassing me. Maybe they can demonstrate some of that creativity in regards to this. LOL
Here’s my serious answer:
As of today has one more year(2026) before he reaches Arbitration(3 years).
That makes him a free agent in 2030.
It it true that based on Skenes career projection the Pirates will not be able to keep him.
But.....I would say that they have time to move him.
The Pirates aren't going anywhere for a while. If they feel Walker and Gorman have outstanding potential. The Walker/Gorman for Skenes may not be as ridiculous as some are making it out to be. Criticizing is easy. Let's see their suggestions.
You've been told by over a dozen posters...

It's THE most ridiculous idea you could've come up with.

The Pirates are not trading Skenes for a couple of failing prospects. It's simply a stupid idea of yours. Everyone thinks so.

Just because you share your stupid trade ideas, doesn't mean I have to come up with a stupid trade idea.
You are an misguided, egotistical dunce. You think you are so brilliant. Let's see some of that brilliant creativity. Who do you feel Walker/Gorman could get, realistically, for the Cardinals. No ballzz, no glory. Enough of the comedy. That's not your thing.
Guy....right now, realistically they cannot get anyone of any sort of value. Gorman and Walkers stock couldn't be any lower. You are getting nothing. Maybe a decent relief arm. The return would not be worth the risk of one of them figuring it out next year. Neither of these 2 are being traded this year. They have close to zero value.

And they certainly aren't going to bring back PAUL SKENES, A TOP END ACE!

Serenity Now
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Re: Would the Pirates trade Skenes for both Walker and Gorman?

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Monsieur De Treville wrote: 08 May 2025 18:31 pm
Cusecards wrote: 08 May 2025 18:26 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 08 May 2025 18:20 pm
Cusecards wrote: 08 May 2025 17:57 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 07 May 2025 14:19 pm
Shady wrote: 07 May 2025 14:10 pm
Jatalk wrote: 07 May 2025 12:43 pm An open post to Shady:

Shady I have tried to come to your defense many times as you often get bashed by the CT Bully Patrol. I will continue to do so, but dude I have to tell you that you have it coming with this thread. You are WAY WAY off on this one. Be better man!
Please try to decipher that I didn't propose this trade. I just threw it out there. Thanks for being a respectful CT poster.
8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O

What the heck is the difference?
Not proposing this trade just throwing it out there:
Saggese, Gorman, and McGreevy for Ohtani.
Dodgers kick in $200M to even it out.
Not proposing this trade, just throwing it out there.

Burleson for the bones of Gehrig & Ruth. Would the Cards do it?
Interesting......
If ALL of the bones were included I’d jump on it.
You could reconstruct both skeletons and put one in Ballpark Village and the other in the Stadium!
Get 'er done, Mo!
I can't stop rolling on the floor laughing so hard at your brilliant humor. NOT
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Re: Would the Pirates trade Skenes for both Walker and Gorman?

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Cusecards wrote: 08 May 2025 18:26 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 08 May 2025 18:20 pm
Cusecards wrote: 08 May 2025 17:57 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 07 May 2025 14:19 pm
Shady wrote: 07 May 2025 14:10 pm
Jatalk wrote: 07 May 2025 12:43 pm An open post to Shady:

Shady I have tried to come to your defense many times as you often get bashed by the CT Bully Patrol. I will continue to do so, but dude I have to tell you that you have it coming with this thread. You are WAY WAY off on this one. Be better man!
Please try to decipher that I didn't propose this trade. I just threw it out there. Thanks for being a respectful CT poster.
8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O

What the heck is the difference?
Not proposing this trade just throwing it out there:
Saggese, Gorman, and McGreevy for Ohtani.
Dodgers kick in $200M to even it out.
Not proposing this trade, just throwing it out there.

Burleson for the bones of Gehrig & Ruth. Would the Cards do it?
Interesting......
If ALL of the bones were included I’d jump on it.
You could reconstruct both skeletons and put one in Ballpark Village and the other in the Stadium!
Not proposing this trade, just throwing it out there:

Burleson for Ted Williams’s frozen head—who hangs up first?
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Re: Would the Pirates trade Skenes for both Walker and Gorman?

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NYCardsFan wrote: 08 May 2025 18:40 pm
Cusecards wrote: 08 May 2025 18:26 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 08 May 2025 18:20 pm
Cusecards wrote: 08 May 2025 17:57 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 07 May 2025 14:19 pm
Shady wrote: 07 May 2025 14:10 pm
Jatalk wrote: 07 May 2025 12:43 pm An open post to Shady:

Shady I have tried to come to your defense many times as you often get bashed by the CT Bully Patrol. I will continue to do so, but dude I have to tell you that you have it coming with this thread. You are WAY WAY off on this one. Be better man!
Please try to decipher that I didn't propose this trade. I just threw it out there. Thanks for being a respectful CT poster.
8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O

What the heck is the difference?
Not proposing this trade just throwing it out there:
Saggese, Gorman, and McGreevy for Ohtani.
Dodgers kick in $200M to even it out.
Not proposing this trade, just throwing it out there.

Burleson for the bones of Gehrig & Ruth. Would the Cards do it?
Interesting......
If ALL of the bones were included I’d jump on it.
You could reconstruct both skeletons and put one in Ballpark Village and the other in the Stadium!
Not proposing this trade, just throwing it out there:

Burleson for Ted Williams’s frozen head—who hangs up first?
Sorry....I’d rather has the skeletons.
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Re: Would the Pirates trade Skenes for both Walker and Gorman?

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Shady wrote: 08 May 2025 18:21 pm
greyhawk wrote: 08 May 2025 18:11 pm
Shady wrote: 08 May 2025 18:09 pm
greyhawk wrote: 08 May 2025 18:05 pm
JohnnyMO wrote: 08 May 2025 17:46 pm
Shady wrote: 08 May 2025 17:22 pm So Walker and Gorman for Skenes is considered out of the question. Then what, realistically, could a Walker/Gorman package bring? Give an example or two of what kind of return the Cardinals could get for Walker and Gorman, together, in a deal. Rafael Devers maybe? Come on, peanut gallery GMs. Let's see what you got.
Throw in Arenado and they might consider it.
don't forget roddery munoz -- the next great cy young pitcher... i don't think the pirates could contain themselves if he was included.
As usual, just bullkrap from you.
yeah i have fun, i never call you out but i certainly make fun of some of the stuff you put out there :)
So what is your trade proposal offering Walker and Gorman? Who is a realistic target in a Walker/Gorman package.
i have nothing --- the answer is whatever the best offer is.... you can state you want to trade them both together but if no one wants them the return is gonna suck. With any deal, it requires two teams that want something from the other. Just because you want to trade them means nothing! You identify your target, see what the other team wants and move on from there.
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Re: Would the Pirates trade Skenes for both Walker and Gorman?

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Cusecards wrote: 08 May 2025 18:19 pm
greyhawk wrote: 08 May 2025 18:11 pm
Shady wrote: 08 May 2025 18:09 pm
greyhawk wrote: 08 May 2025 18:05 pm
JohnnyMO wrote: 08 May 2025 17:46 pm
Shady wrote: 08 May 2025 17:22 pm So Walker and Gorman for Skenes is considered out of the question. Then what, realistically, could a Walker/Gorman package bring? Give an example or two of what kind of return the Cardinals could get for Walker and Gorman, together, in a deal. Rafael Devers maybe? Come on, peanut gallery GMs. Let's see what you got.
Throw in Arenado and they might consider it.
don't forget roddery munoz -- the next great cy young pitcher... i don't think the pirates could contain themselves if he was included.
As usual, just bullkrap from you.
yeah i have fun, i never call you out but i certainly make fun of some of the stuff you put out there :)
Hey don’t forget about Svanson!!
Rumor has it that if you get him in a deal he brings along a truckload of TV Dinners!!!
what about free soda's in the clubhouse?
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