I agree with that.Cranny wrote: ↑05 May 2025 15:53 pmI'll say it again. You'll grab onto anything to bash the Cardinals.Banner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 15:51 pmCranny wrote: ↑05 May 2025 15:42 pmGot it. Any way to bash the Cardinals, you'll try it.Banner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 14:57 pmYou’re just blatantly ignoring things now. And still not making any sense. I told you what the Cardinals can learn from the Blues. I made no claims that the Blues are a stud winning organization.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 12:57 pmYes. It goes to the basis of what I said. The Blues have on Chip...Cards are historically successful across all decades. Then, because the "what have they done lately" chirped in so I threw recent examples...Cards have more chips than the Blues in the last 20 years. Blues finally made the playoffs again since 2022, Cards were last in the playoffs in 2021.Banner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 09:56 amscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 08:33 amMaking the playoffs recently is a good enough comparison?Banner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 08:14 amscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 07:54 amOk...in the last 20 years...Cards have more chips than the BluesBanner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 07:37 amcardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 22:11 pm Another disappointing first round exit from the model St. Louis Blues franchise.
In all seriousness, gut wrenching loss, but how about we strive for a better "Cards should learn from" than the St. Louis Blues. Who have literally won once, ever.
I always love these kinds of arguments. When one takes an entire franchises history and for some reason tries to make that relevant to the modern day. By your logic, many teams can learn from the As(third most WS wins) about how to do things the right way.
Sometimes it’s just better to keep it recent. And While the Blues aren’t perfect, they have a passionate owner a great connection with the fanbase and a GM that even despite being gone in a few years is doing everything he can to make sure the Blues are a legitimate cup contender by the time he walks out the door. Who just so happened to waste no time and cared about no feelings in getting a legitimate head coach to lead the way
Yeah, the Cards can definitely learn from that![]()
Nobody emulated the Blues in their own sport.
Not recent enough?
More recently, the Blues, prior to this year,ade the playoffs since 2022. Cards last made the playoffs in 2021.
Last game was exciting to watch.
20 years ago some of the best players in baseball were still chitting in their diapers or hitting off a tee
I’m wondering why you didn’t do more recent like 10 years tops. Just it’s weird that you didn’t think of tha……oohhhhhhhhhh I see why………![]()
I was responding to the idiotic As comparison, that's the reason for comparison of playoffs.
Lone Cup due to a hot goalie...nothing more.![]()
Do you have a point you’re trying to make or are you having a stroke? What you said made no sense at all
So to make claim that the Blues are some stud, winning organization that the Cards can learn from is laughable!
![]()
Also(and again) 20 years is another terrible example. As I stated before. Many of the best players in the game were just toddlers, Pujols was still the best player on the planet. A long long time ago. But for your agenda was much needed as if you kept it to even just a decade the comparison for both teams would be much different…….
Listen to yourself. “Anyway to bash the Cardinals” as if I’m praising the Cubs or Mets and not ANOTHER St Louis sports team.
You guys are so far gone in this brainwashed FO obsession, I’m genuinely beginning to believe that some of you will be swinging by the neck from your bedroom ceiling fan not far after Mo walks out the door for good
Cards Ownership Should Learn from the Blues
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Re: Cards Ownership Should Learn from the Blues
Re: Cards Ownership Should Learn from the Blues
Cranny wrote: ↑05 May 2025 15:53 pmI'll say it again. You'll grab onto anything to bash the Cardinals.Banner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 15:51 pmCranny wrote: ↑05 May 2025 15:42 pmGot it. Any way to bash the Cardinals, you'll try it.Banner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 14:57 pmYou’re just blatantly ignoring things now. And still not making any sense. I told you what the Cardinals can learn from the Blues. I made no claims that the Blues are a stud winning organization.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 12:57 pmYes. It goes to the basis of what I said. The Blues have on Chip...Cards are historically successful across all decades. Then, because the "what have they done lately" chirped in so I threw recent examples...Cards have more chips than the Blues in the last 20 years. Blues finally made the playoffs again since 2022, Cards were last in the playoffs in 2021.Banner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 09:56 amscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 08:33 amMaking the playoffs recently is a good enough comparison?Banner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 08:14 amscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 07:54 amOk...in the last 20 years...Cards have more chips than the BluesBanner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 07:37 amcardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 22:11 pm Another disappointing first round exit from the model St. Louis Blues franchise.
In all seriousness, gut wrenching loss, but how about we strive for a better "Cards should learn from" than the St. Louis Blues. Who have literally won once, ever.
I always love these kinds of arguments. When one takes an entire franchises history and for some reason tries to make that relevant to the modern day. By your logic, many teams can learn from the As(third most WS wins) about how to do things the right way.
Sometimes it’s just better to keep it recent. And While the Blues aren’t perfect, they have a passionate owner a great connection with the fanbase and a GM that even despite being gone in a few years is doing everything he can to make sure the Blues are a legitimate cup contender by the time he walks out the door. Who just so happened to waste no time and cared about no feelings in getting a legitimate head coach to lead the way
Yeah, the Cards can definitely learn from that![]()
Nobody emulated the Blues in their own sport.
Not recent enough?
More recently, the Blues, prior to this year,ade the playoffs since 2022. Cards last made the playoffs in 2021.
Last game was exciting to watch.
20 years ago some of the best players in baseball were still chitting in their diapers or hitting off a tee
I’m wondering why you didn’t do more recent like 10 years tops. Just it’s weird that you didn’t think of tha……oohhhhhhhhhh I see why………![]()
I was responding to the idiotic As comparison, that's the reason for comparison of playoffs.
Lone Cup due to a hot goalie...nothing more.![]()
Do you have a point you’re trying to make or are you having a stroke? What you said made no sense at all
So to make claim that the Blues are some stud, winning organization that the Cards can learn from is laughable!
![]()
Also(and again) 20 years is another terrible example. As I stated before. Many of the best players in the game were just toddlers, Pujols was still the best player on the planet. A long long time ago. But for your agenda was much needed as if you kept it to even just a decade the comparison for both teams would be much different…….
Listen to yourself. “Anyway to bash the Cardinals” as if I’m praising the Cubs or Mets and not ANOTHER St Louis sports team.
You guys are so far gone in this brainwashed FO obsession, I’m genuinely beginning to believe that some of you will be swinging by the neck from your bedroom ceiling fan not far after Mo walks out the door for good
And you’ll continue to say that like it’s actually true. With no actual evidence.
Praising the Blues is now “Cardinal bashing”

Re: Cards Ownership Should Learn from the Blues
thetank2 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 16:00 pmI agree with that.Cranny wrote: ↑05 May 2025 15:53 pmI'll say it again. You'll grab onto anything to bash the Cardinals.Banner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 15:51 pmCranny wrote: ↑05 May 2025 15:42 pmGot it. Any way to bash the Cardinals, you'll try it.Banner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 14:57 pmYou’re just blatantly ignoring things now. And still not making any sense. I told you what the Cardinals can learn from the Blues. I made no claims that the Blues are a stud winning organization.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 12:57 pmYes. It goes to the basis of what I said. The Blues have on Chip...Cards are historically successful across all decades. Then, because the "what have they done lately" chirped in so I threw recent examples...Cards have more chips than the Blues in the last 20 years. Blues finally made the playoffs again since 2022, Cards were last in the playoffs in 2021.Banner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 09:56 amscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 08:33 amMaking the playoffs recently is a good enough comparison?Banner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 08:14 amscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 07:54 amOk...in the last 20 years...Cards have more chips than the BluesBanner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 07:37 amcardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 22:11 pm Another disappointing first round exit from the model St. Louis Blues franchise.
In all seriousness, gut wrenching loss, but how about we strive for a better "Cards should learn from" than the St. Louis Blues. Who have literally won once, ever.
I always love these kinds of arguments. When one takes an entire franchises history and for some reason tries to make that relevant to the modern day. By your logic, many teams can learn from the As(third most WS wins) about how to do things the right way.
Sometimes it’s just better to keep it recent. And While the Blues aren’t perfect, they have a passionate owner a great connection with the fanbase and a GM that even despite being gone in a few years is doing everything he can to make sure the Blues are a legitimate cup contender by the time he walks out the door. Who just so happened to waste no time and cared about no feelings in getting a legitimate head coach to lead the way
Yeah, the Cards can definitely learn from that![]()
Nobody emulated the Blues in their own sport.
Not recent enough?
More recently, the Blues, prior to this year,ade the playoffs since 2022. Cards last made the playoffs in 2021.
Last game was exciting to watch.
20 years ago some of the best players in baseball were still chitting in their diapers or hitting off a tee
I’m wondering why you didn’t do more recent like 10 years tops. Just it’s weird that you didn’t think of tha……oohhhhhhhhhh I see why………![]()
I was responding to the idiotic As comparison, that's the reason for comparison of playoffs.
Lone Cup due to a hot goalie...nothing more.![]()
Do you have a point you’re trying to make or are you having a stroke? What you said made no sense at all
So to make claim that the Blues are some stud, winning organization that the Cards can learn from is laughable!
![]()
Also(and again) 20 years is another terrible example. As I stated before. Many of the best players in the game were just toddlers, Pujols was still the best player on the planet. A long long time ago. But for your agenda was much needed as if you kept it to even just a decade the comparison for both teams would be much different…….
Listen to yourself. “Anyway to bash the Cardinals” as if I’m praising the Cubs or Mets and not ANOTHER St Louis sports team.
You guys are so far gone in this brainwashed FO obsession, I’m genuinely beginning to believe that some of you will be swinging by the neck from your bedroom ceiling fan not far after Mo walks out the door for good
You two always seem to be online at the same time…….
Re: Cards Ownership Should Learn from the Blues
I'm guessing someone has a sock?
Re: Cards Ownership Should Learn from the Blues
IF the claim is that the Cardinals are much more successful as an organization than the BluesBanner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 16:04 pmthetank2 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 16:00 pmI agree with that.Cranny wrote: ↑05 May 2025 15:53 pmI'll say it again. You'll grab onto anything to bash the Cardinals.Banner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 15:51 pmCranny wrote: ↑05 May 2025 15:42 pmGot it. Any way to bash the Cardinals, you'll try it.Banner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 14:57 pmYou’re just blatantly ignoring things now. And still not making any sense. I told you what the Cardinals can learn from the Blues. I made no claims that the Blues are a stud winning organization.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 12:57 pmYes. It goes to the basis of what I said. The Blues have on Chip...Cards are historically successful across all decades. Then, because the "what have they done lately" chirped in so I threw recent examples...Cards have more chips than the Blues in the last 20 years. Blues finally made the playoffs again since 2022, Cards were last in the playoffs in 2021.Banner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 09:56 amscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 08:33 amMaking the playoffs recently is a good enough comparison?Banner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 08:14 amscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 07:54 amOk...in the last 20 years...Cards have more chips than the BluesBanner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 07:37 am
I always love these kinds of arguments. When one takes an entire franchises history and for some reason tries to make that relevant to the modern day. By your logic, many teams can learn from the As(third most WS wins) about how to do things the right way.
Sometimes it’s just better to keep it recent. And While the Blues aren’t perfect, they have a passionate owner a great connection with the fanbase and a GM that even despite being gone in a few years is doing everything he can to make sure the Blues are a legitimate cup contender by the time he walks out the door. Who just so happened to waste no time and cared about no feelings in getting a legitimate head coach to lead the way
Yeah, the Cards can definitely learn from that![]()
Nobody emulated the Blues in their own sport.
Not recent enough?
More recently, the Blues, prior to this year,ade the playoffs since 2022. Cards last made the playoffs in 2021.
Last game was exciting to watch.
20 years ago some of the best players in baseball were still chitting in their diapers or hitting off a tee
I’m wondering why you didn’t do more recent like 10 years tops. Just it’s weird that you didn’t think of tha……oohhhhhhhhhh I see why………![]()
I was responding to the idiotic As comparison, that's the reason for comparison of playoffs.
Lone Cup due to a hot goalie...nothing more.![]()
Do you have a point you’re trying to make or are you having a stroke? What you said made no sense at all
So to make claim that the Blues are some stud, winning organization that the Cards can learn from is laughable!
![]()
Also(and again) 20 years is another terrible example. As I stated before. Many of the best players in the game were just toddlers, Pujols was still the best player on the planet. A long long time ago. But for your agenda was much needed as if you kept it to even just a decade the comparison for both teams would be much different…….
Listen to yourself. “Anyway to bash the Cardinals” as if I’m praising the Cubs or Mets and not ANOTHER St Louis sports team.
You guys are so far gone in this brainwashed FO obsession, I’m genuinely beginning to believe that some of you will be swinging by the neck from your bedroom ceiling fan not far after Mo walks out the door for good
You two always seem to be online at the same time…….
then isn't there something to be learned in how a less successful organization has more fan excitement
surrounding the team?
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Re: Cards Ownership Should Learn from the Blues
The Cardinals have no interest in learning from anyone. Their "smartest guys in the room" mentality got them into the mess they're in in the first place.renostl wrote: ↑05 May 2025 16:15 pmIF the claim is that the Cardinals are much more successful as an organization than the BluesBanner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 16:04 pmthetank2 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 16:00 pmI agree with that.Cranny wrote: ↑05 May 2025 15:53 pmI'll say it again. You'll grab onto anything to bash the Cardinals.Banner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 15:51 pmCranny wrote: ↑05 May 2025 15:42 pmGot it. Any way to bash the Cardinals, you'll try it.Banner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 14:57 pmYou’re just blatantly ignoring things now. And still not making any sense. I told you what the Cardinals can learn from the Blues. I made no claims that the Blues are a stud winning organization.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 12:57 pmYes. It goes to the basis of what I said. The Blues have on Chip...Cards are historically successful across all decades. Then, because the "what have they done lately" chirped in so I threw recent examples...Cards have more chips than the Blues in the last 20 years. Blues finally made the playoffs again since 2022, Cards were last in the playoffs in 2021.Banner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 09:56 amscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 08:33 amMaking the playoffs recently is a good enough comparison?Banner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 08:14 amscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 07:54 am
Ok...in the last 20 years...Cards have more chips than the Blues![]()
Nobody emulated the Blues in their own sport.
Not recent enough?
More recently, the Blues, prior to this year,ade the playoffs since 2022. Cards last made the playoffs in 2021.
Last game was exciting to watch.
20 years ago some of the best players in baseball were still chitting in their diapers or hitting off a tee
I’m wondering why you didn’t do more recent like 10 years tops. Just it’s weird that you didn’t think of tha……oohhhhhhhhhh I see why………![]()
I was responding to the idiotic As comparison, that's the reason for comparison of playoffs.
Lone Cup due to a hot goalie...nothing more.![]()
Do you have a point you’re trying to make or are you having a stroke? What you said made no sense at all
So to make claim that the Blues are some stud, winning organization that the Cards can learn from is laughable!
![]()
Also(and again) 20 years is another terrible example. As I stated before. Many of the best players in the game were just toddlers, Pujols was still the best player on the planet. A long long time ago. But for your agenda was much needed as if you kept it to even just a decade the comparison for both teams would be much different…….
Listen to yourself. “Anyway to bash the Cardinals” as if I’m praising the Cubs or Mets and not ANOTHER St Louis sports team.
You guys are so far gone in this brainwashed FO obsession, I’m genuinely beginning to believe that some of you will be swinging by the neck from your bedroom ceiling fan not far after Mo walks out the door for good
You two always seem to be online at the same time…….
then isn't there something to be learned in how a less successful organization has more fan excitement
surrounding the team?
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Re: Cards Ownership Should Learn from the Blues
We can hope………Banner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 15:51 pmCranny wrote: ↑05 May 2025 15:42 pmGot it. Any way to bash the Cardinals, you'll try it.Banner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 14:57 pmYou’re just blatantly ignoring things now. And still not making any sense. I told you what the Cardinals can learn from the Blues. I made no claims that the Blues are a stud winning organization.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 12:57 pmYes. It goes to the basis of what I said. The Blues have on Chip...Cards are historically successful across all decades. Then, because the "what have they done lately" chirped in so I threw recent examples...Cards have more chips than the Blues in the last 20 years. Blues finally made the playoffs again since 2022, Cards were last in the playoffs in 2021.Banner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 09:56 amscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 08:33 amMaking the playoffs recently is a good enough comparison?Banner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 08:14 amscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 07:54 amOk...in the last 20 years...Cards have more chips than the BluesBanner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 07:37 amcardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 22:11 pm Another disappointing first round exit from the model St. Louis Blues franchise.
In all seriousness, gut wrenching loss, but how about we strive for a better "Cards should learn from" than the St. Louis Blues. Who have literally won once, ever.
I always love these kinds of arguments. When one takes an entire franchises history and for some reason tries to make that relevant to the modern day. By your logic, many teams can learn from the As(third most WS wins) about how to do things the right way.
Sometimes it’s just better to keep it recent. And While the Blues aren’t perfect, they have a passionate owner a great connection with the fanbase and a GM that even despite being gone in a few years is doing everything he can to make sure the Blues are a legitimate cup contender by the time he walks out the door. Who just so happened to waste no time and cared about no feelings in getting a legitimate head coach to lead the way
Yeah, the Cards can definitely learn from that![]()
Nobody emulated the Blues in their own sport.
Not recent enough?
More recently, the Blues, prior to this year,ade the playoffs since 2022. Cards last made the playoffs in 2021.
Last game was exciting to watch.
20 years ago some of the best players in baseball were still chitting in their diapers or hitting off a tee
I’m wondering why you didn’t do more recent like 10 years tops. Just it’s weird that you didn’t think of tha……oohhhhhhhhhh I see why………![]()
I was responding to the idiotic As comparison, that's the reason for comparison of playoffs.
Lone Cup due to a hot goalie...nothing more.![]()
Do you have a point you’re trying to make or are you having a stroke? What you said made no sense at all
So to make claim that the Blues are some stud, winning organization that the Cards can learn from is laughable!
![]()
Also(and again) 20 years is another terrible example. As I stated before. Many of the best players in the game were just toddlers, Pujols was still the best player on the planet. A long long time ago. But for your agenda was much needed as if you kept it to even just a decade the comparison for both teams would be much different…….
Listen to yourself. “Anyway to bash the Cardinals” as if I’m praising the Cubs or Mets and not ANOTHER St Louis sports team.
You guys are so far gone in this brainwashed FO obsession, I’m genuinely beginning to believe that some of you will be swinging by the neck from your bedroom ceiling fan not far after Mo walks out the door for good
Re: Cards Ownership Should Learn from the Blues
How nice of you.Rojo Johnson wrote: ↑05 May 2025 18:30 pmWe can hope………Banner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 15:51 pmCranny wrote: ↑05 May 2025 15:42 pmGot it. Any way to bash the Cardinals, you'll try it.Banner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 14:57 pmYou’re just blatantly ignoring things now. And still not making any sense. I told you what the Cardinals can learn from the Blues. I made no claims that the Blues are a stud winning organization.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 12:57 pmYes. It goes to the basis of what I said. The Blues have on Chip...Cards are historically successful across all decades. Then, because the "what have they done lately" chirped in so I threw recent examples...Cards have more chips than the Blues in the last 20 years. Blues finally made the playoffs again since 2022, Cards were last in the playoffs in 2021.Banner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 09:56 amscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 08:33 amMaking the playoffs recently is a good enough comparison?Banner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 08:14 amscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 07:54 amOk...in the last 20 years...Cards have more chips than the BluesBanner29 wrote: ↑05 May 2025 07:37 amcardinalsfever44 wrote: ↑04 May 2025 22:11 pm Another disappointing first round exit from the model St. Louis Blues franchise.
In all seriousness, gut wrenching loss, but how about we strive for a better "Cards should learn from" than the St. Louis Blues. Who have literally won once, ever.
I always love these kinds of arguments. When one takes an entire franchises history and for some reason tries to make that relevant to the modern day. By your logic, many teams can learn from the As(third most WS wins) about how to do things the right way.
Sometimes it’s just better to keep it recent. And While the Blues aren’t perfect, they have a passionate owner a great connection with the fanbase and a GM that even despite being gone in a few years is doing everything he can to make sure the Blues are a legitimate cup contender by the time he walks out the door. Who just so happened to waste no time and cared about no feelings in getting a legitimate head coach to lead the way
Yeah, the Cards can definitely learn from that![]()
Nobody emulated the Blues in their own sport.
Not recent enough?
More recently, the Blues, prior to this year,ade the playoffs since 2022. Cards last made the playoffs in 2021.
Last game was exciting to watch.
20 years ago some of the best players in baseball were still chitting in their diapers or hitting off a tee
I’m wondering why you didn’t do more recent like 10 years tops. Just it’s weird that you didn’t think of tha……oohhhhhhhhhh I see why………![]()
I was responding to the idiotic As comparison, that's the reason for comparison of playoffs.
Lone Cup due to a hot goalie...nothing more.![]()
Do you have a point you’re trying to make or are you having a stroke? What you said made no sense at all
So to make claim that the Blues are some stud, winning organization that the Cards can learn from is laughable!
![]()
Also(and again) 20 years is another terrible example. As I stated before. Many of the best players in the game were just toddlers, Pujols was still the best player on the planet. A long long time ago. But for your agenda was much needed as if you kept it to even just a decade the comparison for both teams would be much different…….
Listen to yourself. “Anyway to bash the Cardinals” as if I’m praising the Cubs or Mets and not ANOTHER St Louis sports team.
You guys are so far gone in this brainwashed FO obsession, I’m genuinely beginning to believe that some of you will be swinging by the neck from your bedroom ceiling fan not far after Mo walks out the door for good
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Re: Cards Ownership Should Learn from the Blues
The OP was a simple statement that the Blues went with an experienced winning coach and the benefits were almost immediate. The Cards should do likewise and abandon inexperienced managers and hire a proven leader.