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Re: Buchy with the dumbest play I have ever seen

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Web7 wrote: 04 May 2025 20:40 pm He has the puck at the blue line with Thomas is front of him and he fires it down for icing… absolutely stupid
Parayko's icing was just as bad. Chip it out and kill 15-20 seconds
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Hazelwood72 wrote: 04 May 2025 20:47 pm
mizfan wrote: 04 May 2025 20:42 pm Yep.

I said exactly when he did that this is going to cost us.

Worst play of the year.
I told my wife the same thing. Why he didn’t skate it out, I’ll never know. Just a horrible play.
Like Rivers said he has no idea who is behind him or how close they are, so I'm good with him not taking that chance. What made no sense was firing down the ice like that for an icing. At worst just get it out of the zone.
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Send it towards Thomas.
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TheJackBurton wrote: 04 May 2025 22:51 pm
Hazelwood72 wrote: 04 May 2025 20:47 pm
mizfan wrote: 04 May 2025 20:42 pm Yep.

I said exactly when he did that this is going to cost us.

Worst play of the year.
I told my wife the same thing. Why he didn’t skate it out, I’ll never know. Just a horrible play.
Like Rivers said he has no idea who is behind him or how close they are, so I'm good with him not taking that chance. What made no sense was firing down the ice like that for an icing. At worst just get it out of the zone.
Yeah just a baffling approach to the clear. Even if you just want to get it out, flip it up and out to kill some more time. Don’t just fire it down the ice.
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Kick that stupid freaking Russian all the way back to Moscow.
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bluetunehead wrote: 04 May 2025 22:55 pm
TheJackBurton wrote: 04 May 2025 22:51 pm
Hazelwood72 wrote: 04 May 2025 20:47 pm
mizfan wrote: 04 May 2025 20:42 pm Yep.

I said exactly when he did that this is going to cost us.

Worst play of the year.
I told my wife the same thing. Why he didn’t skate it out, I’ll never know. Just a horrible play.
Like Rivers said he has no idea who is behind him or how close they are, so I'm good with him not taking that chance. What made no sense was firing down the ice like that for an icing. At worst just get it out of the zone.
Yeah just a baffling approach to the clear. Even if you just want to get it out, flip it up and out to kill some more time. Don’t just fire it down the ice.
Flip it out, put it off the boards towards Thomas, put the puck on net, but anything other than essentially a slap shot to the other end of the ice.

Every icing just increased the odds of Winnipeg scoring.

Also, Kyle Conner can't retire soon enough. Good lord is he a Blues killer.
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I just can’t believe he did that
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I’ve watched the play numerous times now and have come to the conclusion that it’s a set play gone wrong. Watch Thomas from the moment the puck is dropped. He sprints straight down the ice as soon as the puck drops. He’s not racing to cover a d-man, he’s racing to get past the d-men. Fowler hammers it along the boards, high on the glass‬ but Connor presses his body to the glass and stops it. I bet it gets past him at least 75% of the time. This causes Thomas to slow down and then. But the puck bounces right to Buchy. He tries to complete the play and fires it down the ice. But by then it was too late. Thomas had peeled back and Ehlers had the clear advantage.

That said, Buchy should’ve recognized Option 1 was dead as soon as Connor blocked Fowler’s clearing attempt. He should’ve tried to bank it off the boards to Thomas. Or at the very least, skated with it himself. It was still really, really stupid. But that’s what fatigue does to you sometimes. Buchy is generally a pretty smart player but my guess is his brain was still stuck on trying to execute the set play…which was dead by then and it somehow didn’t recognize the two other options that were much much better at that point. C’est la vie…
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STL fan in MN wrote: 05 May 2025 16:07 pm I’ve watched the play numerous times now and have come to the conclusion that it’s a set play gone wrong. Watch Thomas from the moment the puck is dropped. He sprints straight down the ice as soon as the puck drops. He’s not racing to cover a d-man, he’s racing to get past the d-men. Fowler hammers it along the boards, high on the glass‬ but Connor presses his body to the glass and stops it. I bet it gets past him at least 75% of the time. This causes Thomas to slow down and then. But the puck bounces right to Buchy. He tries to complete the play and fires it down the ice. But by then it was too late. Thomas had peeled back and Ehlers had the clear advantage.

That said, Buchy should’ve recognized Option 1 was dead as soon as Connor blocked Fowler’s clearing attempt. He should’ve tried to bank it off the boards to Thomas. Or at the very least, skated with it himself. It was still really, really stupid. But that’s what fatigue does to you sometimes. Buchy is generally a pretty smart player but my guess is his brain was still stuck on trying to execute the set play…which was dead by then and it somehow didn’t recognize the two other options that were much much better at that point. C’est la vie…
Thanks. The most logical observation on what happened.
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somni wrote: 05 May 2025 17:06 pm
STL fan in MN wrote: 05 May 2025 16:07 pm I’ve watched the play numerous times now and have come to the conclusion that it’s a set play gone wrong. Watch Thomas from the moment the puck is dropped. He sprints straight down the ice as soon as the puck drops. He’s not racing to cover a d-man, he’s racing to get past the d-men. Fowler hammers it along the boards, high on the glass‬ but Connor presses his body to the glass and stops it. I bet it gets past him at least 75% of the time. This causes Thomas to slow down and then. But the puck bounces right to Buchy. He tries to complete the play and fires it down the ice. But by then it was too late. Thomas had peeled back and Ehlers had the clear advantage.

That said, Buchy should’ve recognized Option 1 was dead as soon as Connor blocked Fowler’s clearing attempt. He should’ve tried to bank it off the boards to Thomas. Or at the very least, skated with it himself. It was still really, really stupid. But that’s what fatigue does to you sometimes. Buchy is generally a pretty smart player but my guess is his brain was still stuck on trying to execute the set play…which was dead by then and it somehow didn’t recognize the two other options that were much much better at that point. C’est la vie…
Thanks. The most logical observation on what happened.
+1

I'd be curious to know if this "hit Thomas on a fly pattern" was a repeat plan, or a new plan that they hatched to end the game. I know they iced the puck quite a few times.
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a smell of green grass wrote: 05 May 2025 17:34 pm
somni wrote: 05 May 2025 17:06 pm
STL fan in MN wrote: 05 May 2025 16:07 pm I’ve watched the play numerous times now and have come to the conclusion that it’s a set play gone wrong. Watch Thomas from the moment the puck is dropped. He sprints straight down the ice as soon as the puck drops. He’s not racing to cover a d-man, he’s racing to get past the d-men. Fowler hammers it along the boards, high on the glass‬ but Connor presses his body to the glass and stops it. I bet it gets past him at least 75% of the time. This causes Thomas to slow down and then. But the puck bounces right to Buchy. He tries to complete the play and fires it down the ice. But by then it was too late. Thomas had peeled back and Ehlers had the clear advantage.

That said, Buchy should’ve recognized Option 1 was dead as soon as Connor blocked Fowler’s clearing attempt. He should’ve tried to bank it off the boards to Thomas. Or at the very least, skated with it himself. It was still really, really stupid. But that’s what fatigue does to you sometimes. Buchy is generally a pretty smart player but my guess is his brain was still stuck on trying to execute the set play…which was dead by then and it somehow didn’t recognize the two other options that were much much better at that point. C’est la vie…
Thanks. The most logical observation on what happened.
+1

I'd be curious to know if this "hit Thomas on a fly pattern" was a repeat plan, or a new plan that they hatched to end the game. I know they iced the puck quite a few times.
They did try it on at least one of the other face offs. It makes some sense if you get control of the puck but the guy releasing needs to turn around as soon as there is an issue with not clearing the puck.
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LGB73 wrote: 05 May 2025 17:53 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 05 May 2025 17:34 pm
somni wrote: 05 May 2025 17:06 pm
STL fan in MN wrote: 05 May 2025 16:07 pm I’ve watched the play numerous times now and have come to the conclusion that it’s a set play gone wrong. Watch Thomas from the moment the puck is dropped. He sprints straight down the ice as soon as the puck drops. He’s not racing to cover a d-man, he’s racing to get past the d-men. Fowler hammers it along the boards, high on the glass‬ but Connor presses his body to the glass and stops it. I bet it gets past him at least 75% of the time. This causes Thomas to slow down and then. But the puck bounces right to Buchy. He tries to complete the play and fires it down the ice. But by then it was too late. Thomas had peeled back and Ehlers had the clear advantage.

That said, Buchy should’ve recognized Option 1 was dead as soon as Connor blocked Fowler’s clearing attempt. He should’ve tried to bank it off the boards to Thomas. Or at the very least, skated with it himself. It was still really, really stupid. But that’s what fatigue does to you sometimes. Buchy is generally a pretty smart player but my guess is his brain was still stuck on trying to execute the set play…which was dead by then and it somehow didn’t recognize the two other options that were much much better at that point. C’est la vie…
Thanks. The most logical observation on what happened.
+1

I'd be curious to know if this "hit Thomas on a fly pattern" was a repeat plan, or a new plan that they hatched to end the game. I know they iced the puck quite a few times.
They did try it on at least one of the other face offs. It makes some sense if you get control of the puck but the guy releasing needs to turn around as soon as there is an issue with not clearing the puck.
Great to know. Thank you.
When they did try the "hit Thomas on a fly pattern" earlier in the game, did the plan work or fail?
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a smell of green grass wrote: 05 May 2025 17:58 pm
LGB73 wrote: 05 May 2025 17:53 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 05 May 2025 17:34 pm
somni wrote: 05 May 2025 17:06 pm
STL fan in MN wrote: 05 May 2025 16:07 pm I’ve watched the play numerous times now and have come to the conclusion that it’s a set play gone wrong. Watch Thomas from the moment the puck is dropped. He sprints straight down the ice as soon as the puck drops. He’s not racing to cover a d-man, he’s racing to get past the d-men. Fowler hammers it along the boards, high on the glass‬ but Connor presses his body to the glass and stops it. I bet it gets past him at least 75% of the time. This causes Thomas to slow down and then. But the puck bounces right to Buchy. He tries to complete the play and fires it down the ice. But by then it was too late. Thomas had peeled back and Ehlers had the clear advantage.

That said, Buchy should’ve recognized Option 1 was dead as soon as Connor blocked Fowler’s clearing attempt. He should’ve tried to bank it off the boards to Thomas. Or at the very least, skated with it himself. It was still really, really stupid. But that’s what fatigue does to you sometimes. Buchy is generally a pretty smart player but my guess is his brain was still stuck on trying to execute the set play…which was dead by then and it somehow didn’t recognize the two other options that were much much better at that point. C’est la vie…
Thanks. The most logical observation on what happened.
+1

I'd be curious to know if this "hit Thomas on a fly pattern" was a repeat plan, or a new plan that they hatched to end the game. I know they iced the puck quite a few times.
They did try it on at least one of the other face offs. It makes some sense if you get control of the puck but the guy releasing needs to turn around as soon as there is an issue with not clearing the puck.
Great to know. Thank you.
When they did try the "hit Thomas on a fly pattern" earlier in the game, did the plan work or fail?
It was one of the other face offs at the end when they were still up by two, but I don't remember who they sent up ice.
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STL fan in MN wrote: 05 May 2025 16:07 pm I’ve watched the play numerous times now and have come to the conclusion that it’s a set play gone wrong. Watch Thomas from the moment the puck is dropped. He sprints straight down the ice as soon as the puck drops. He’s not racing to cover a d-man, he’s racing to get past the d-men. Fowler hammers it along the boards, high on the glass‬ but Connor presses his body to the glass and stops it. I bet it gets past him at least 75% of the time. This causes Thomas to slow down and then. But the puck bounces right to Buchy. He tries to complete the play and fires it down the ice. But by then it was too late. Thomas had peeled back and Ehlers had the clear advantage.

That said, Buchy should’ve recognized Option 1 was dead as soon as Connor blocked Fowler’s clearing attempt. He should’ve tried to bank it off the boards to Thomas. Or at the very least, skated with it himself. It was still really, really stupid. But that’s what fatigue does to you sometimes. Buchy is generally a pretty smart player but my guess is his brain was still stuck on trying to execute the set play…which was dead by then and it somehow didn’t recognize the two other options that were much much better at that point. C’est la vie…
That's actually a perfectly logical explanation. Thomas races down the ice to beat an icing and get the puck deep in their zone. It gets blocked so he slows up but Buch still fires it down the ice. Blah. Bad reaction to the play, but with that line of thinking I can at least get where he was starting from, rather than just a guy purely ripping it down the ice when he had time and space.
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Even if that’s the case, it was still an incredibly stupid play….. he has to realize if he skates it out they probably have a two on one with an empty net….. it literally cost them the game
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Web7 wrote: 05 May 2025 18:27 pm Even if that’s the case, it was still an incredibly stupid play….. he has to realize if he skates it out they probably have a two on one with an empty net….. it literally cost them the game
Oh absolutely. Complete brain fart. But in some ways, that’s a flaw of set plays. What do you do if it doesn’t work? Then what? I bet 95% of the time Buch would recognize he needs to change course and not try to continue with the set play but that fatigue in Double-OT is real.
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