There’s always an excuse, isn’t there? ALWAYS.Cranny wrote: ↑22 Apr 2025 20:57 pmMaybe the game is a little more complicated now, and it takes players a little longer to develop than 40 years ago. Especially with more types of pitches.Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Apr 2025 19:28 pmScroll upAnExParrot wrote: ↑22 Apr 2025 18:57 pmWere there young Cardinals on the field? Oh right, there were... just not enough for your liking. Definitely sounds like a you problem, much like listening to anything the announcers say that isn't play-by-play.Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Apr 2025 14:18 pmSo how many late 20’s mid 30’s players must be starting for the announcers to stop commenting “these young Cardinals are learning to win”AnExParrot wrote: ↑22 Apr 2025 11:30 amThat fact that you started a(nother) thread with this same theme complaining about a 33 year old 1B, 33 year old pitcher, and a 3B, who's age you can't get right, playing in games.Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Apr 2025 11:12 amWhere in my statement am I acting like I don’t know what you claimAnExParrot wrote: ↑22 Apr 2025 09:46 amActing like you don't know why there is a 33 year old at first base is really stupid. Acting like you don't know why a 33 year old pitcher got the start is really stupid. Acting like you don't know that Arenado is 34 and why he got the start is really dumb.
The willful ignorance you have to utilize to end up with this excessively dumb(and repetitious - as you were asking "what youth?" for months before the season started) take is all on you.![]()
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You’re probably too stupid to understand……
But my point was this isn’t a “youthful starting squad just trying to learn how to win”
Not that I don’t know WHY it isn’t a Youthful Squad
I sometimes wonder if English is the primary language for some of you……
It doesn’t really matter why the old farts are starting the point is that they are……
So if the org, media, announcers really want to claim the starting 9 is just youth having fun……then don’t start a 33, 33, 35, 28, 27 yr old players have youth as the reason they don’t “know how to win”
Again, you are acting like you don't know - when you do know.
My comprehension is just fine. Your willful ignorance... not so much.
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The 1985 Cardinals had a younger starting team than in 2025……won over 100 games and went to the WS……
This narrative that 23, 24, 25, 26 yr old players can’t perform at a high level is laughable.
“That YOUNG Cards Team”
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I actually agree with the premise of this thread. If you are going to lose, lose in a way that there's something to be gained.
At this point, Saggese has proven he belongs and Gorman needs to play every day also. Likewise, McGreevy should be on the major league roster.
If the issue is being unable to trade Contreras or Arenado, they could trade some of the older arb guys like Donovan and Nootbaar, that may not have a future here in 3 years.
At this point, Saggese has proven he belongs and Gorman needs to play every day also. Likewise, McGreevy should be on the major league roster.
If the issue is being unable to trade Contreras or Arenado, they could trade some of the older arb guys like Donovan and Nootbaar, that may not have a future here in 3 years.
Re: “That YOUNG Cards Team”
The world is always searching for legitimate reasons - for a myriad of things. Baseball people are always searching for reasons so they can come up with possible solutions.desertrat23 wrote: ↑23 Apr 2025 10:13 amThere’s always an excuse, isn’t there? ALWAYS.Cranny wrote: ↑22 Apr 2025 20:57 pmMaybe the game is a little more complicated now, and it takes players a little longer to develop than 40 years ago. Especially with more types of pitches.Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Apr 2025 19:28 pmScroll upAnExParrot wrote: ↑22 Apr 2025 18:57 pmWere there young Cardinals on the field? Oh right, there were... just not enough for your liking. Definitely sounds like a you problem, much like listening to anything the announcers say that isn't play-by-play.Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Apr 2025 14:18 pmSo how many late 20’s mid 30’s players must be starting for the announcers to stop commenting “these young Cardinals are learning to win”AnExParrot wrote: ↑22 Apr 2025 11:30 amThat fact that you started a(nother) thread with this same theme complaining about a 33 year old 1B, 33 year old pitcher, and a 3B, who's age you can't get right, playing in games.Goldfan wrote: ↑22 Apr 2025 11:12 amWhere in my statement am I acting like I don’t know what you claimAnExParrot wrote: ↑22 Apr 2025 09:46 amActing like you don't know why there is a 33 year old at first base is really stupid. Acting like you don't know why a 33 year old pitcher got the start is really stupid. Acting like you don't know that Arenado is 34 and why he got the start is really dumb.
The willful ignorance you have to utilize to end up with this excessively dumb(and repetitious - as you were asking "what youth?" for months before the season started) take is all on you.![]()
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?
You’re probably too stupid to understand……
But my point was this isn’t a “youthful starting squad just trying to learn how to win”
Not that I don’t know WHY it isn’t a Youthful Squad
I sometimes wonder if English is the primary language for some of you……
It doesn’t really matter why the old farts are starting the point is that they are……
So if the org, media, announcers really want to claim the starting 9 is just youth having fun……then don’t start a 33, 33, 35, 28, 27 yr old players have youth as the reason they don’t “know how to win”
Again, you are acting like you don't know - when you do know.
My comprehension is just fine. Your willful ignorance... not so much.
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The 1985 Cardinals had a younger starting team than in 2025……won over 100 games and went to the WS……
This narrative that 23, 24, 25, 26 yr old players can’t perform at a high level is laughable.