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Re: "I'm not going on the IL"

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ramfandan wrote: 12 Apr 2025 10:12 am
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 12 Apr 2025 08:52 am I would be shocked if he doesn’t spend at least 10 days on the IL
It could happen but I would be shocked . He had back issue last year too and still played in 150 games. This kid wants to play . Look for him to get a 2 day rest and be back in there. Trainers will get him good to go again .
Saggese plays the next two then Winn plays? I don't hate it at all.
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vegascardsfan5890 wrote: 11 Apr 2025 22:17 pm Masyn Winn says as he's clearly in pain
Well that aged well. :D

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Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 12 Apr 2025 08:52 am I would be shocked if he doesn’t spend at least 10 days on the IL
Let's just say I am not shocked. Especially after the way Saggese filled in last night.
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Wattage wrote: 12 Apr 2025 10:45 am
rockondlouie wrote: 12 Apr 2025 10:35 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 12 Apr 2025 00:28 am I think they need to bring another MI up in the short term.
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#STLCards lineup for today:

Nootbaar LF
Baker DH
Contreras 1B
Arenado 3B
Donovan 2B
Walker RF
Pagès C
Scott II CF
Saggese SS

Mikolas SP

Thomas Saggese starts at SS for Masyn Winn (back spasms). No roster move … yet.
Its amazing that with how.much the cardinals have pushed so many prospects into utility roles, that we also end up with not having all positions covered with insurance on roster because we also do some things like carry 3 players for 1b/dh only(contreras, baker, burly although burly can technically play outfield) when donovan arenado and catchers are probably capable of backing up 1b anyway so that isnt the position to need multiple backups for.
We have 9 players on the roster w/2 as strictly 1B (Baker and Contreras). That would seem to be enough.

Infielders
Nolan Arenado
Nolan Arenado 28 R/R 6' 2" 215 04/16/1991

Luken Baker
Luken Baker 26 R/R 6' 4" 285 03/10/1997

Alec Burleson
Alec Burleson 41 L/L 6' 0" 225 11/25/1998

Willson Contreras
Willson Contreras 40 R/R 6' 1" 240 05/13/1992

Brendan Donovan
Brendan Donovan 33 L/R 5' 11" 210 01/16/1997

José Fermín
José Fermín 15 Minors R/R 5' 10" 198 03/29/1999

Nolan Gorman
Nolan Gorman 16 L/R 6' 0" 225 05/10/2000

Thomas Saggese
Thomas Saggese 25 R/R 5' 11" 185 04/10/2002

Masyn Winn
Masyn Winn 0 IL-10 R/R 5' 9" 185 03/21/2002
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Re: "I'm not going on the IL"

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hugeCardfan wrote: 12 Apr 2025 12:07 pm
Wattage wrote: 12 Apr 2025 10:45 am
rockondlouie wrote: 12 Apr 2025 10:35 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 12 Apr 2025 00:28 am I think they need to bring another MI up in the short term.
John Denton
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#STLCards lineup for today:

Nootbaar LF
Baker DH
Contreras 1B
Arenado 3B
Donovan 2B
Walker RF
Pagès C
Scott II CF
Saggese SS

Mikolas SP

Thomas Saggese starts at SS for Masyn Winn (back spasms). No roster move … yet.
Its amazing that with how.much the cardinals have pushed so many prospects into utility roles, that we also end up with not having all positions covered with insurance on roster because we also do some things like carry 3 players for 1b/dh only(contreras, baker, burly although burly can technically play outfield) when donovan arenado and catchers are probably capable of backing up 1b anyway so that isnt the position to need multiple backups for.
We have 9 players on the roster w/2 as strictly 1B (Baker and Contreras). That would seem to be enough.

Infielders
Nolan Arenado
Nolan Arenado 28 R/R 6' 2" 215 04/16/1991

Luken Baker
Luken Baker 26 R/R 6' 4" 285 03/10/1997

Alec Burleson
Alec Burleson 41 L/L 6' 0" 225 11/25/1998

Willson Contreras
Willson Contreras 40 R/R 6' 1" 240 05/13/1992

Brendan Donovan
Brendan Donovan 33 L/R 5' 11" 210 01/16/1997

José Fermín
José Fermín 15 Minors R/R 5' 10" 198 03/29/1999

Nolan Gorman
Nolan Gorman 16 L/R 6' 0" 225 05/10/2000

Thomas Saggese
Thomas Saggese 25 R/R 5' 11" 185 04/10/2002

Masyn Winn
Masyn Winn 0 IL-10 R/R 5' 9" 185 03/21/2002
You realize WillyCon can also catch?
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Re: "I'm not going on the IL"

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 12 Apr 2025 12:15 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 12 Apr 2025 12:07 pm
Wattage wrote: 12 Apr 2025 10:45 am
rockondlouie wrote: 12 Apr 2025 10:35 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 12 Apr 2025 00:28 am I think they need to bring another MI up in the short term.
John Denton
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#STLCards lineup for today:

Nootbaar LF
Baker DH
Contreras 1B
Arenado 3B
Donovan 2B
Walker RF
Pagès C
Scott II CF
Saggese SS

Mikolas SP

Thomas Saggese starts at SS for Masyn Winn (back spasms). No roster move … yet.
Its amazing that with how.much the cardinals have pushed so many prospects into utility roles, that we also end up with not having all positions covered with insurance on roster because we also do some things like carry 3 players for 1b/dh only(contreras, baker, burly although burly can technically play outfield) when donovan arenado and catchers are probably capable of backing up 1b anyway so that isnt the position to need multiple backups for.
We have 9 players on the roster w/2 as strictly 1B (Baker and Contreras). That would seem to be enough.

Infielders
Nolan Arenado
Nolan Arenado 28 R/R 6' 2" 215 04/16/1991

Luken Baker
Luken Baker 26 R/R 6' 4" 285 03/10/1997

Alec Burleson
Alec Burleson 41 L/L 6' 0" 225 11/25/1998

Willson Contreras
Willson Contreras 40 R/R 6' 1" 240 05/13/1992

Brendan Donovan
Brendan Donovan 33 L/R 5' 11" 210 01/16/1997

José Fermín
José Fermín 15 Minors R/R 5' 10" 198 03/29/1999

Nolan Gorman
Nolan Gorman 16 L/R 6' 0" 225 05/10/2000

Thomas Saggese
Thomas Saggese 25 R/R 5' 11" 185 04/10/2002

Masyn Winn
Masyn Winn 0 IL-10 R/R 5' 9" 185 03/21/2002
You realize WillyCon can also catch?
Sure, if he wants to live on the IL.
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Hoosier59 wrote: 12 Apr 2025 08:17 am For anyone that has been watching the games, Jordan Walker has looked much better in the OF. Now he’s not close, yet to winning a Gold Glove, but he has looked pretty good so far. Actually, his throwing arm has started to deter runners for trying to take an extra base as well. So, Siani, is probably the least needed player on the roster. Baker just missed hitting a home run in his at bat and that threat is needed on the team. I think I’d bring up Barrero, as he can play shortstop, or CF. Just makes more sense to me.
Gorman for Winn

Barrero for Siani

Makes sense
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Basil Shabazz wrote: 12 Apr 2025 13:02 pm
Hoosier59 wrote: 12 Apr 2025 08:17 am For anyone that has been watching the games, Jordan Walker has looked much better in the OF. Now he’s not close, yet to winning a Gold Glove, but he has looked pretty good so far. Actually, his throwing arm has started to deter runners for trying to take an extra base as well. So, Siani, is probably the least needed player on the roster. Baker just missed hitting a home run in his at bat and that threat is needed on the team. I think I’d bring up Barrero, as he can play shortstop, or CF. Just makes more sense to me.
Gorman for Winn

Barrero for Siani

Makes sense
I dont think they are gonna clear room on 40 man for barrero yet. Especially if he woukd get no playing time and would go bacl down anyways when winn was healthy(i think saggese should stay when both gorman and winn are healthy. Saggese should be the backup ss. Hes earned it for now. But siani or baker should be optioned for fermin til winn is vack
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Back issues can be a lifetime problem

He’s wise to take the time to get right

A potential big free agent deal is at stake…
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Hoosier59 wrote: 12 Apr 2025 08:17 am For anyone that has been watching the games, Jordan Walker has looked much better in the OF. Now he’s not close, yet to winning a Gold Glove, but he has looked pretty good so far. Actually, his throwing arm has started to deter runners for trying to take an extra base as well. So, Siani, is probably the least needed player on the roster. Baker just missed hitting a home run in his at bat and that threat is needed on the team. I think I’d bring up Barrero, as he can play shortstop, or CF. Just makes more sense to me.
Agree with this on all points. Barrero fits our roster needs better at this time. Another RHB would be welcome at this time. I would be interested to see how he could do at the big league level with the Cardinals.
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Re: "I'm not going on the IL"

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Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 12 Apr 2025 12:03 pm
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 12 Apr 2025 08:52 am I would be shocked if he doesn’t spend at least 10 days on the IL
Let's just say I am not shocked. Especially after the way Saggese filled in last night.
I was in shock as Winn wished to return in a couple days . From listening to Oli's pregame announcement aired on FanDuel it was evident that Oli wanted the IL and not Winn. Oli used the rationale that he wanted Winn healthy for the summer months as his reason .
The manager makes the call and player must go along with it . I do like that Winn wanted to return in a couple days . He is a gamer. He played in 150 games last year. He doesn't miss often. Hope he comes back well .
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ramfandan wrote: 12 Apr 2025 22:19 pm
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 12 Apr 2025 12:03 pm
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 12 Apr 2025 08:52 am I would be shocked if he doesn’t spend at least 10 days on the IL
Let's just say I am not shocked. Especially after the way Saggese filled in last night.
I was in shock as Winn wished to return in a couple days . From listening to Oli's pregame announcement aired on FanDuel it was evident that Oli wanted the IL and not Winn. Oli used the rationale that he wanted Winn healthy for the summer months as his reason .
The manager makes the call and player must go along with it . I do like that Winn wanted to return in a couple days . He is a gamer. He played in 150 games last year. He doesn't miss often. Hope he comes back well .
No pun intended? 8O
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