Drew Pyne surfaces at Bowling Green

[jcgmoi]

He'll play for new coach Eddie George. Pyne still has two years of eligibility remaining. He'll aim to replace former Missouri quarterback Connor Bazelak.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... er-report/

[Power74]

This is probably the right kind of place for him.

[acco40]

This will be Pyne's fourth school in his sixth year of college football . . .

The above is the issue I have with college football today. My solution?

Have schools award 4 year scholarships and have them act just like an NFL 4 year contract. If desired, put in performance bonuses.

[Red7]

Pyne is older than 86% of Bowling Green’s faculty. He will draw BOTH Social Security AND NIL this fall.

[Kenny Boy]

This will be Pyne's fourth school in his sixth year of college football . . .

The above is the issue I have with college football today. My solution?

Have schools award 4 year scholarships and have them act just like an NFL 4 year contract. If desired, put in performance bonuses.

College football and basketball has almost nothing to do with the classroom these days. Many of the well above average but "not quite good enough for the pros" are just going to stick around and collect NIL money as long as they can. Some will make more more than they would in the next 40 years working a real job after college. The system is broken.

[BrummerStealsHome]

This will be Pyne's fourth school in his sixth year of college football . . .

The above is the issue I have with college football today. My solution?

Have schools award 4 year scholarships and have them act just like an NFL 4 year contract. If desired, put in performance bonuses.

College football and basketball has almost nothing to do with the classroom these days. Many of the well above average but "not quite good enough for the pros" are just going to stick around and collect NIL money as long as they can. Some will make more more than they would in the next 40 years working a real job after college. The system is broken.

But most won't, and they'll be less valuable for those real jobs. College athletics has abandoned the well-being of these kids.

Get rid of the transfer portal and get rid of the damned NIL (bleep), even it it takes an act of congress.

[Red7]

This will be Pyne's fourth school in his sixth year of college football . . .

The above is the issue I have with college football today. My solution?

Have schools award 4 year scholarships and have them act just like an NFL 4 year contract. If desired, put in performance bonuses.

College football and basketball has almost nothing to do with the classroom these days. Many of the well above average but "not quite good enough for the pros" are just going to stick around and collect NIL money as long as they can. Some will make more more than they would in the next 40 years working a real job after college. The system is broken.

But most won't, and they'll be less valuable for those real jobs. College athletics has abandoned the well-being of these kids.

Get rid of the transfer portal and get rid of the damned NIL (bleep), even it it takes an act of congress.

So, kids can’t move, but coaches can? So, the schools can make hundreds of millions, billions even, but the kids can’t share in that? Dam those young whippersnappers. Just who in the Samhell do they think they are?

[BrummerStealsHome]

This will be Pyne's fourth school in his sixth year of college football . . .

The above is the issue I have with college football today. My solution?

Have schools award 4 year scholarships and have them act just like an NFL 4 year contract. If desired, put in performance bonuses.

College football and basketball has almost nothing to do with the classroom these days. Many of the well above average but "not quite good enough for the pros" are just going to stick around and collect NIL money as long as they can. Some will make more more than they would in the next 40 years working a real job after college. The system is broken.

But most won't, and they'll be less valuable for those real jobs. College athletics has abandoned the well-being of these kids.

Get rid of the transfer portal and get rid of the damned NIL (bleep), even it it takes an act of congress.

So, kids can’t move, but coaches can? So, the schools can make hundreds of millions, billions even, but the kids can’t share in that? Dam those young whippersnappers. Just who in the Samhell do they think they are?

Coaches are employees. Kids are students. Use reason, not snark.

[Red7]

This will be Pyne's fourth school in his sixth year of college football . . .

The above is the issue I have with college football today. My solution?

Have schools award 4 year scholarships and have them act just like an NFL 4 year contract. If desired, put in performance bonuses.

College football and basketball has almost nothing to do with the classroom these days. Many of the well above average but "not quite good enough for the pros" are just going to stick around and collect NIL money as long as they can. Some will make more more than they would in the next 40 years working a real job after college. The system is broken.

But most won't, and they'll be less valuable for those real jobs. College athletics has abandoned the well-being of these kids.

Get rid of the transfer portal and get rid of the damned NIL (bleep), even it it takes an act of congress.

So, kids can’t move, but coaches can? So, the schools can make hundreds of millions, billions even, but the kids can’t share in that? Dam those young whippersnappers. Just who in the Samhell do they think they are?

Coaches are employees. Kids are students. Use reason, not snark.

When the schools use their names, images, and likenesses to make money and doesn’t share that money with the players, that’s theft. Btw, students aren’t allowed to transfer? You realize that scholarships are renewed yearly. They’re not one way contracts. The solution is a CBA. However, right now, the players have the hammer and have no need to form an association. Also, that would mean recognizing the players as employees. Again, the revenue these players are producing (no one is paying hundreds/thousands of dollars to watch coaches and college presidents) is in the BILLIONS of dollars. This is America. People expect to get paid for producing revenue for others. These college kids are no different. Besides, paying players has been going on since intercollegiate sports began. It’s just out in the open now.

[BrummerStealsHome]

This will be Pyne's fourth school in his sixth year of college football . . .

The above is the issue I have with college football today. My solution?

Have schools award 4 year scholarships and have them act just like an NFL 4 year contract. If desired, put in performance bonuses.

College football and basketball has almost nothing to do with the classroom these days. Many of the well above average but "not quite good enough for the pros" are just going to stick around and collect NIL money as long as they can. Some will make more more than they would in the next 40 years working a real job after college. The system is broken.

But most won't, and they'll be less valuable for those real jobs. College athletics has abandoned the well-being of these kids.

Get rid of the transfer portal and get rid of the damned NIL (bleep), even it it takes an act of congress.

So, kids can’t move, but coaches can? So, the schools can make hundreds of millions, billions even, but the kids can’t share in that? Dam those young whippersnappers. Just who in the Samhell do they think they are?

Coaches are employees. Kids are students. Use reason, not snark.

When the schools use their names, images, and likenesses to make money and doesn’t share that money with the players, that’s theft. Btw, students aren’t allowed to transfer? You realize that scholarships are renewed yearly. They’re not one way contracts. The solution is a CBA. However, right now, the players have the hammer and have no need to form an association. Also, that would mean recognizing the players as employees. Again, the revenue these players are producing (no one is paying hundreds/thousands of dollars to watch coaches and college presidents) is in the BILLIONS of dollars. This is America. People expect to get paid for producing revenue for others. These college kids are no different. Besides, paying players has been going on since intercollegiate sports began. It’s just out in the open now.

It isn't theft because the money isn't rightfully theirs. If you can't make a case without relying upon euphemistic language then you don't have an argument. These are students, not employees. They are offered scholarships to cover the cost of education in exchange for playing a sport at that school. That's the agreement, and it has monetary value. These are schools, not minor or feeder league sport entities. They exist for the purpose of education.

Which plays into why sports are sponsored by schools. Sport is considered part of the formational experience of the young man (or woman). Participation isn't a job. An integral part of that formation is being part of a team. You do a kid a severe disservice if you teach him that the team doesn't count, that only his individual wants count. He (she) graduates with a lesser chance of making it in the real world, which is counter to the school's raison d'être. Put another way, these kids are at the school to get an education and improve themselves, not to entertain you. The NCAA as a governing body should be looking at the welfare of the college athlete, not at the bank coffers of its members.

[winonsports]

The NCAA as a governing body should be looking at the welfare of the college athlete, not at the bank coffers of its members.

The NCAA does look out for the welfare of the college athletes. Training, nutrition, tutors, practice time etc are all things monitored.

But that welfare isn't available without the proper, financial resources, so the bank coffers of its members are extremely important.

[Red7]

This will be Pyne's fourth school in his sixth year of college football . . .

The above is the issue I have with college football today. My solution?

Have schools award 4 year scholarships and have them act just like an NFL 4 year contract. If desired, put in performance bonuses.

College football and basketball has almost nothing to do with the classroom these days. Many of the well above average but "not quite good enough for the pros" are just going to stick around and collect NIL money as long as they can. Some will make more more than they would in the next 40 years working a real job after college. The system is broken.

But most won't, and they'll be less valuable for those real jobs. College athletics has abandoned the well-being of these kids.

Get rid of the transfer portal and get rid of the damned NIL (bleep), even it it takes an act of congress.

So, kids can’t move, but coaches can? So, the schools can make hundreds of millions, billions even, but the kids can’t share in that? Dam those young whippersnappers. Just who in the Samhell do they think they are?

Coaches are employees. Kids are students. Use reason, not snark.

When the schools use their names, images, and likenesses to make money and doesn’t share that money with the players, that’s theft. Btw, students aren’t allowed to transfer? You realize that scholarships are renewed yearly. They’re not one way contracts. The solution is a CBA. However, right now, the players have the hammer and have no need to form an association. Also, that would mean recognizing the players as employees. Again, the revenue these players are producing (no one is paying hundreds/thousands of dollars to watch coaches and college presidents) is in the BILLIONS of dollars. This is America. People expect to get paid for producing revenue for others. These college kids are no different. Besides, paying players has been going on since intercollegiate sports began. It’s just out in the open now.

It isn't theft because the money isn't rightfully theirs. If you can't make a case without relying upon euphemistic language then you don't have an argument. These are students, not employees. They are offered scholarships to cover the cost of education in exchange for playing a sport at that school. That's the agreement, and it has monetary value. These are schools, not minor or feeder league sport entities. They exist for the purpose of education.

Which plays into why sports are sponsored by schools. Sport is considered part of the formational experience of the young man (or woman). Participation isn't a job. An integral part of that formation is being part of a team. You do a kid a severe disservice if you teach him that the team doesn't count, that only his individual wants count. He (she) graduates with a lesser chance of making it in the real world, which is counter to the school's raison d'être. Put another way, these kids are at the school to get an education and improve themselves, not to entertain you. The NCAA as a governing body should be looking at the welfare of the college athlete, not at the bank coffers of its members.

If you use my name, image and likeness to make money, it sure as hell IS mine. BTW, the law and courts are on the side of the players. You better come to grips with that.

[Red7]

This will be Pyne's fourth school in his sixth year of college football . . .

The above is the issue I have with college football today. My solution?

Have schools award 4 year scholarships and have them act just like an NFL 4 year contract. If desired, put in performance bonuses.

College football and basketball has almost nothing to do with the classroom these days. Many of the well above average but "not quite good enough for the pros" are just going to stick around and collect NIL money as long as they can. Some will make more more than they would in the next 40 years working a real job after college. The system is broken.

But most won't, and they'll be less valuable for those real jobs. College athletics has abandoned the well-being of these kids.

Get rid of the transfer portal and get rid of the damned NIL (bleep), even it it takes an act of congress.

So, kids can’t move, but coaches can? So, the schools can make hundreds of millions, billions even, but the kids can’t share in that? Dam those young whippersnappers. Just who in the Samhell do they think they are?

Coaches are employees. Kids are students. Use reason, not snark.

When the schools use their names, images, and likenesses to make money and doesn’t share that money with the players, that’s theft. Btw, students aren’t allowed to transfer? You realize that scholarships are renewed yearly. They’re not one way contracts. The solution is a CBA. However, right now, the players have the hammer and have no need to form an association. Also, that would mean recognizing the players as employees. Again, the revenue these players are producing (no one is paying hundreds/thousands of dollars to watch coaches and college presidents) is in the BILLIONS of dollars. This is America. People expect to get paid for producing revenue for others. These college kids are no different. Besides, paying players has been going on since intercollegiate sports began. It’s just out in the open now.

It isn't theft because the money isn't rightfully theirs. If you can't make a case without relying upon euphemistic language then you don't have an argument. These are students, not employees. They are offered scholarships to cover the cost of education in exchange for playing a sport at that school. That's the agreement, and it has monetary value. These are schools, not minor or feeder league sport entities. They exist for the purpose of education.

Which plays into why sports are sponsored by schools. Sport is considered part of the formational experience of the young man (or woman). Participation isn't a job. An integral part of that formation is being part of a team. You do a kid a severe disservice if you teach him that the team doesn't count, that only his individual wants count. He (she) graduates with a lesser chance of making it in the real world, which is counter to the school's raison d'être. Put another way, these kids are at the school to get an education and improve themselves, not to entertain you. The NCAA as a governing body should be looking at the welfare of the college athlete, not at the bank coffers of its members.

It’s about freedom. To move and to make money. It’s what America is all about. Why do you hate America?

[11WSChamps]

This will be Pyne's fourth school in his sixth year of college football . . .

The above is the issue I have with college football today. My solution?

Have schools award 4 year scholarships and have them act just like an NFL 4 year contract. If desired, put in performance bonuses.

College football and basketball has almost nothing to do with the classroom these days. Many of the well above average but "not quite good enough for the pros" are just going to stick around and collect NIL money as long as they can. Some will make more more than they would in the next 40 years working a real job after college. The system is broken.

But most won't, and they'll be less valuable for those real jobs. College athletics has abandoned the well-being of these kids.

Get rid of the transfer portal and get rid of the damned NIL (bleep), even it it takes an act of congress.

So, kids can’t move, but coaches can? So, the schools can make hundreds of millions, billions even, but the kids can’t share in that? Dam those young whippersnappers. Just who in the Samhell do they think they are?

Coaches are employees. Kids are students. Use reason, not snark.

When the schools use their names, images, and likenesses to make money and doesn’t share that money with the players, that’s theft. Btw, students aren’t allowed to transfer? You realize that scholarships are renewed yearly. They’re not one way contracts. The solution is a CBA. However, right now, the players have the hammer and have no need to form an association. Also, that would mean recognizing the players as employees. Again, the revenue these players are producing (no one is paying hundreds/thousands of dollars to watch coaches and college presidents) is in the BILLIONS of dollars. This is America. People expect to get paid for producing revenue for others. These college kids are no different. Besides, paying players has been going on since intercollegiate sports began. It’s just out in the open now.

It isn't theft because the money isn't rightfully theirs. If you can't make a case without relying upon euphemistic language then you don't have an argument. These are students, not employees. They are offered scholarships to cover the cost of education in exchange for playing a sport at that school. That's the agreement, and it has monetary value. These are schools, not minor or feeder league sport entities. They exist for the purpose of education.

Which plays into why sports are sponsored by schools. Sport is considered part of the formational experience of the young man (or woman). Participation isn't a job. An integral part of that formation is being part of a team. You do a kid a severe disservice if you teach him that the team doesn't count, that only his individual wants count. He (she) graduates with a lesser chance of making it in the real world, which is counter to the school's raison d'être. Put another way, these kids are at the school to get an education and improve themselves, not to entertain you. The NCAA as a governing body should be looking at the welfare of the college athlete, not at the bank coffers of its members.

Very well stated.

I said for years as have others a stipend should be sufficient.

Things as they are now have gotten out of hand.

[BrummerStealsHome]

This will be Pyne's fourth school in his sixth year of college football . . .

The above is the issue I have with college football today. My solution?

Have schools award 4 year scholarships and have them act just like an NFL 4 year contract. If desired, put in performance bonuses.

College football and basketball has almost nothing to do with the classroom these days. Many of the well above average but "not quite good enough for the pros" are just going to stick around and collect NIL money as long as they can. Some will make more more than they would in the next 40 years working a real job after college. The system is broken.

But most won't, and they'll be less valuable for those real jobs. College athletics has abandoned the well-being of these kids.

Get rid of the transfer portal and get rid of the damned NIL (bleep), even it it takes an act of congress.

So, kids can’t move, but coaches can? So, the schools can make hundreds of millions, billions even, but the kids can’t share in that? Dam those young whippersnappers. Just who in the Samhell do they think they are?

Coaches are employees. Kids are students. Use reason, not snark.

When the schools use their names, images, and likenesses to make money and doesn’t share that money with the players, that’s theft. Btw, students aren’t allowed to transfer? You realize that scholarships are renewed yearly. They’re not one way contracts. The solution is a CBA. However, right now, the players have the hammer and have no need to form an association. Also, that would mean recognizing the players as employees. Again, the revenue these players are producing (no one is paying hundreds/thousands of dollars to watch coaches and college presidents) is in the BILLIONS of dollars. This is America. People expect to get paid for producing revenue for others. These college kids are no different. Besides, paying players has been going on since intercollegiate sports began. It’s just out in the open now.

It isn't theft because the money isn't rightfully theirs. If you can't make a case without relying upon euphemistic language then you don't have an argument. These are students, not employees. They are offered scholarships to cover the cost of education in exchange for playing a sport at that school. That's the agreement, and it has monetary value. These are schools, not minor or feeder league sport entities. They exist for the purpose of education.

Which plays into why sports are sponsored by schools. Sport is considered part of the formational experience of the young man (or woman). Participation isn't a job. An integral part of that formation is being part of a team. You do a kid a severe disservice if you teach him that the team doesn't count, that only his individual wants count. He (she) graduates with a lesser chance of making it in the real world, which is counter to the school's raison d'être. Put another way, these kids are at the school to get an education and improve themselves, not to entertain you. The NCAA as a governing body should be looking at the welfare of the college athlete, not at the bank coffers of its members.

Very well stated.

I said for years as have others a stipend should be sufficient.

Things as they are now have gotten out of hand.

Thanks. Red7 got triggered and went full stupid on me. I don't mind people who disagree with me, but when they totally ignore the arguments made they've just declared themselves a waste of time.

[11WSChamps]

This will be Pyne's fourth school in his sixth year of college football . . .

The above is the issue I have with college football today. My solution?

Have schools award 4 year scholarships and have them act just like an NFL 4 year contract. If desired, put in performance bonuses.

College football and basketball has almost nothing to do with the classroom these days. Many of the well above average but "not quite good enough for the pros" are just going to stick around and collect NIL money as long as they can. Some will make more more than they would in the next 40 years working a real job after college. The system is broken.

But most won't, and they'll be less valuable for those real jobs. College athletics has abandoned the well-being of these kids.

Get rid of the transfer portal and get rid of the damned NIL (bleep), even it it takes an act of congress.

So, kids can’t move, but coaches can? So, the schools can make hundreds of millions, billions even, but the kids can’t share in that? Dam those young whippersnappers. Just who in the Samhell do they think they are?

Coaches are employees. Kids are students. Use reason, not snark.

When the schools use their names, images, and likenesses to make money and doesn’t share that money with the players, that’s theft. Btw, students aren’t allowed to transfer? You realize that scholarships are renewed yearly. They’re not one way contracts. The solution is a CBA. However, right now, the players have the hammer and have no need to form an association. Also, that would mean recognizing the players as employees. Again, the revenue these players are producing (no one is paying hundreds/thousands of dollars to watch coaches and college presidents) is in the BILLIONS of dollars. This is America. People expect to get paid for producing revenue for others. These college kids are no different. Besides, paying players has been going on since intercollegiate sports began. It’s just out in the open now.

It isn't theft because the money isn't rightfully theirs. If you can't make a case without relying upon euphemistic language then you don't have an argument. These are students, not employees. They are offered scholarships to cover the cost of education in exchange for playing a sport at that school. That's the agreement, and it has monetary value. These are schools, not minor or feeder league sport entities. They exist for the purpose of education.

Which plays into why sports are sponsored by schools. Sport is considered part of the formational experience of the young man (or woman). Participation isn't a job. An integral part of that formation is being part of a team. You do a kid a severe disservice if you teach him that the team doesn't count, that only his individual wants count. He (she) graduates with a lesser chance of making it in the real world, which is counter to the school's raison d'être. Put another way, these kids are at the school to get an education and improve themselves, not to entertain you. The NCAA as a governing body should be looking at the welfare of the college athlete, not at the bank coffers of its members.

Very well stated.

I said for years as have others a stipend should be sufficient.

Things as they are now have gotten out of hand.

Thanks. Red7 got triggered and went full stupid on me. I don't mind people who disagree with me, but when they totally ignore the arguments made they've just declared themselves a waste of time.

Yeah once the idiots start throwing the word "hater" around I'm done.