I hope Binner isn’t hurt. He seemed off after the Perry hit

[tubastarr]

It’s funny how Binnington gets ridiculed when he goes after a player (which he hasn’t done in a long time), but when M A Fluery has done it everyone thinks it’s cute.

[theograce]

Think of it this way. Perry does anything there and slips, he had the potential to freaking kill Binner.

I see you’re ready for playoff hockey.

Potential to kill lol

[seattleblue]

Think he will throw an empty water bottle at him? That’s the Binnington that helps nobody.

Being mocked again as he should be.

Just play goal … you’re pretty good at it

Recognizing that you're engaged here, appreciate you keeping your cool in this thread, sincerely, I would honestly agree with your assessment about it helping nobody (not the mockery).

At the time it happened I had thoughts.
1. It almost seemed like he sensed the team didn't have enough fire in the belly and was trying to provide a spark.
2. If it's him and another player people will assume it's him that is the bad guy, but if it's Corey Perry involved, people have seen too much not to realize Binner probably had a point. So he felt like going after Perry didn't bear the same risk of blowback on him.
3. It felt to me watching like, ok winning streak energy is definitely over because this is outside the calm zone

Having said that, a sincere question. Do you think that people mocking him really carries a lot of currency?
I don't personally. A) people worthlessly mock people all the time and B) this was kind of a nothingburger event, more of a harbinger of a shift in energy and C) Binnington himself doesn't care

[LGB73]

Binnington does need to keep his cool more in that situation. Chop Perry with his stick right behind his knee and then just move on.

[theograce]

Having said that, a sincere question. Do you think that people mocking him really carries a lot of currency?
I don't personally. A) people worthlessly mock people all the time and B) this was kind of a nothingburger event, more of a harbinger of a shift in energy and C) Binnington himself doesn't care

Currency? Depends on context. The thing is he starts this stuff and never backs it up. He’s so mad he punches a guy in the back of the head … purposely tries to fall on his head…then skates backwards out of the melee. He knows he can’t fight…

So Neighbours steps on in and has to fight for him…putting himself at risk over nothing. It’s a pattern and that’s why he gets mocked often …. Whether we feel it has currency doesn’t change that’s it’s really stupid.

[TBone]

Having said that, a sincere question. Do you think that people mocking him really carries a lot of currency?
I don't personally. A) people worthlessly mock people all the time and B) this was kind of a nothingburger event, more of a harbinger of a shift in energy and C) Binnington himself doesn't care

Currency? Depends on context. The thing is he starts this stuff and never backs it up. He’s so mad he punches a guy in the back of the head … purposely tries to fall on his head…then skates backwards out of the melee. He knows he can’t fight…

So Neighbours steps on in and has to fight for him…putting himself at risk over nothing. It’s a pattern and that’s why he gets mocked often …. Whether we feel it has currency doesn’t change that’s it’s really stupid.

So with Binnington down a punk starts something by skating into the crease at near full speed, kicking him in the head causing his neck to go sideways and then spearing him for good measure - all also on purpose, btw - and Binnington is supposed to just take it??

And all but Oiler fluffers are supporting Binnington. I love that he laid him out with one punch as the ref was pulling him away. Laughing.

Disclaimer: The video above is hosted on Youtube, and has not be reviewed by the staff of the Post-Dispatch.

[DawgDad]

Having said that, a sincere question. Do you think that people mocking him really carries a lot of currency?
I don't personally. A) people worthlessly mock people all the time and B) this was kind of a nothingburger event, more of a harbinger of a shift in energy and C) Binnington himself doesn't care

Currency? Depends on context. The thing is he starts this stuff and never backs it up. He’s so mad he punches a guy in the back of the head … purposely tries to fall on his head…then skates backwards out of the melee. He knows he can’t fight…

So Neighbours steps on in and has to fight for him…putting himself at risk over nothing. It’s a pattern and that’s why he gets mocked often …. Whether we feel it has currency doesn’t change that’s it’s really stupid.

So with Binnington down a punk starts something by skating into the crease at near full speed, kicking him in the head causing his neck to go sideways and then spearing him for good measure - all also on purpose, btw - and Binnington is supposed to just take it??

And all but Oiler fluffers are supporting Binnington. I love that he laid him out with one punch as the ref was pulling him away. Laughing.

Disclaimer: The video above is hosted on Youtube, and has not be reviewed by the staff of the Post-Dispatch.

Yes. And it worked on the scoreboard, Blues notching the SHG.

[callitwhatyouwant]

Having said that, a sincere question. Do you think that people mocking him really carries a lot of currency?
I don't personally. A) people worthlessly mock people all the time and B) this was kind of a nothingburger event, more of a harbinger of a shift in energy and C) Binnington himself doesn't care

Currency? Depends on context. The thing is he starts this stuff and never backs it up. He’s so mad he punches a guy in the back of the head … purposely tries to fall on his head…then skates backwards out of the melee. He knows he can’t fight…

So Neighbours steps on in and has to fight for him…putting himself at risk over nothing. It’s a pattern and that’s why he gets mocked often …. Whether we feel it has currency doesn’t change that’s it’s really stupid.

So with Binnington down a punk starts something by skating into the crease at near full speed, kicking him in the head causing his neck to go sideways and then spearing him for good measure - all also on purpose, btw - and Binnington is supposed to just take it??

And all but Oiler fluffers are supporting Binnington. I love that he laid him out with one punch as the ref was pulling him away. Laughing.

Disclaimer: The video above is hosted on Youtube, and has not be reviewed by the staff of the Post-Dispatch.

the dude could have seriously injured binner in multiple ways with that play. it's not a hockey play. everyone is talking about it. you are inches away from cutting a guy in the neck because you want to "rattle his cage". only hockey people know that wasn't a legit play. and people are backing binner up.

[theograce]

Having said that, a sincere question. Do you think that people mocking him really carries a lot of currency?
I don't personally. A) people worthlessly mock people all the time and B) this was kind of a nothingburger event, more of a harbinger of a shift in energy and C) Binnington himself doesn't care

Currency? Depends on context. The thing is he starts this stuff and never backs it up. He’s so mad he punches a guy in the back of the head … purposely tries to fall on his head…then skates backwards out of the melee. He knows he can’t fight…

So Neighbours steps on in and has to fight for him…putting himself at risk over nothing. It’s a pattern and that’s why he gets mocked often …. Whether we feel it has currency doesn’t change that’s it’s really stupid.

So with Binnington down a punk starts something by skating into the crease at near full speed, kicking him in the head causing his neck to go sideways and then spearing him for good measure - all also on purpose, btw - and Binnington is supposed to just take it??

There’s ways to go about things. He goes about these things the wrong way. Do you like to start fights and run away while your friends fight for you because you force them into it? Is that your jam.

Everyone knows Binnington is a water battle throwing 160 pound noodle.

Like Berube told him. Knock it off…does nothing for the team. Play goal.

[seattleblue]

You're right to point out his achilles heel. When goalies do that it fires both teams up. Honestly where I come down on it is if there's a player who exists who can throw down A++ balls-out competitive performance in the two most viewed hockey games in history, and both for the right causes, then I am forgiving of his achilles heel. I also think if he could do it over he would do it. It's not like he opened a door deliberately to injure a player, he simply attacked the sort of person who plays that way. But I think he knows it took him off. He had a couple goals in this last game I have seen him save when he is more within himself.

[theograce]

You're right to point out his achilles heel. When goalies do that it fires both teams up. Honestly where I come down on it is if there's a player who exists who can throw down A++ balls-out competitive performance in the two most viewed hockey games in history, and both for the right causes, then I am forgiving of his achilles heel. I also think if he could do it over he would do it. It's not like he opened a door deliberately to injure a player, he simply attacked the sort of person who plays that way. But I think he knows it took him off. He had a couple goals in this last game I have seen him save when he is more within himself.

Then stand your ground at least and don’t skate away. Don’t make others do your dirty work. Deep down he has that little man syndrome and he knows he will get fed if he takes it to that level. That’s the worst part about him.

[theograce]

Or when he stepped in to help Broberg who was getting manhandled by Tkachuk. Like what are you doing little guy?

You’re embarrassing your teammate further. It’s like he is missing this understanding of the game and perception.

[seattleblue]

You're right to point out his achilles heel. When goalies do that it fires both teams up. Honestly where I come down on it is if there's a player who exists who can throw down A++ balls-out competitive performance in the two most viewed hockey games in history, and both for the right causes, then I am forgiving of his achilles heel. I also think if he could do it over he would do it. It's not like he opened a door deliberately to injure a player, he simply attacked the sort of person who plays that way. But I think he knows it took him off. He had a couple goals in this last game I have seen him save when he is more within himself.

Then stand your ground at least and don’t skate away. Don’t make others do your dirty work. Deep down he has that little man syndrome and he knows he will get fed if he takes it to that level. That’s the worst part about him.

You're correct, but I am saying I see the good in him and it outweighs the bad by quite a bit (in part because "the bad" by NHL standards is pretty much higher than this kerfuffle). If the crime is internal, i.e., makes his own team bear a heavier burden, then it's up to him to support his team better. Supporting a team better IS a competition aspect and I think he is competitive so I trust that he is going to keep working on it.

When it happened it seemed very out of the character of his recent groove. I can't prove this because it's a subjective guess from body language but it almost seemed like he was fired up talking to himself after the incident, like annoyed with himself as much as Perry. I feel like he knows it was a mistake, is my point. Sometimes you do real well for awhile with something you are trying to fix about yourself then it crops up. We'll see what he does the rest of this season but I hope this was a one-off.

[Old_Goat]

Yes, I hope he is not injured as well.
The usual immature dialogue, antagonizing and hate toward a very good team player by theo usual Fool in these threads is unfortunate. I respect someone who has the fortitude to engage, fight and win when someone purposely attempts to injure them. And I have a greater respect for them, when they are in a solo position having only 1 backup on the bench, to have the sense to disengage to prevent the possibility of an unnecessary further injury that could put their team in jeopardy by being out of the game.

[bud white]

Yes, I hope he is not injured as well.
The usual immature dialogue, antagonizing and hate toward a very good team player by theo usual Fool in these threads is unfortunate. I respect someone who has the fortitude to engage, fight and win when someone purposely attempts to injure them. And I have a greater respect for them, when they are in a solo position having only 1 backup on the bench, to have the sense to disengage to prevent the possibility of an unnecessary further injury that could put their team in jeopardy by being out of the game.

Defending your goaltender is a part of the hockey code. They are defenseless - only focusing on the puck. Neighbors did what every honorable player would do - he protected his goalie from a blatant, cowardly, blindside act by Perry.

[Old_Goat]

Yes, I hope he is not injured as well.
The usual immature dialogue, antagonizing and hate toward a very good team player by theo usual Fool in these threads is unfortunate. I respect someone who has the fortitude to engage, fight and win when someone purposely attempts to injure them. And I have a greater respect for them, when they are in a solo position having only 1 backup on the bench, to have the sense to disengage to prevent the possibility of an unnecessary further injury that could put their team in jeopardy by being out of the game.

Defending your goaltender is a part of the hockey code. They are defenseless - only focusing on the puck. Neighbors did what every honorable player would do - he protected his goalie from a blatant, cowardly, blindside act by Perry.

And yes, this too.