State of decline
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State of decline
While where we are at is not completely on the manager and coaches. In days gone past the great managers would make the difference of 7-10 games. Today was one of them. Unfortunately it is more important to the president of baseball operations to have a compliant manager. This team won’t progress past the current malaise until leadership at the top changes. The difference between the Blues and Cardinals leadership could not be more evident. Armstrong built a championship team re tooled and is on the way again.. The current leader of the Cardinals inherited a Championship ascending team and has brought it to where we are today.
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Re: State of decline
The Blues have 1...1 Stanley Cup. Only 1.Jplantessteelcup wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 17:12 pm While where we are at is not completely on the manager and coaches. In days gone past the great managers would make the difference of 7-10 games. Today was one of them. Unfortunately it is more important to the president of baseball operations to have a compliant manager. This team won’t progress past the current malaise until leadership at the top changes. The difference between the Blues and Cardinals leadership could not be more evident. Armstrong built a championship team re tooled and is on the way again.. The current leader of the Cardinals inherited a Championship ascending team and has brought it to where we are today.
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Re: State of decline
Winning a WS is so much easier than a Cup. Scouts, you're a jerk!scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 17:39 pmThe Blues have 1...1 Stanley Cup. Only 1.Jplantessteelcup wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 17:12 pm While where we are at is not completely on the manager and coaches. In days gone past the great managers would make the difference of 7-10 games. Today was one of them. Unfortunately it is more important to the president of baseball operations to have a compliant manager. This team won’t progress past the current malaise until leadership at the top changes. The difference between the Blues and Cardinals leadership could not be more evident. Armstrong built a championship team re tooled and is on the way again.. The current leader of the Cardinals inherited a Championship ascending team and has brought it to where we are today.
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Re: State of decline
Terrific, original post.Jplantessteelcup wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 17:12 pm While where we are at is not completely on the manager and coaches. In days gone past the great managers would make the difference of 7-10 games. Today was one of them. Unfortunately it is more important to the president of baseball operations to have a compliant manager. This team won’t progress past the current malaise until leadership at the top changes. The difference between the Blues and Cardinals leadership could not be more evident. Armstrong built a championship team re tooled and is on the way again.. The current leader of the Cardinals inherited a Championship ascending team and has brought it to where we are today.
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Re: State of decline
You must be Clara Voyent. The POBO change is forthcoming....Jplantessteelcup wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 17:12 pm While where we are at is not completely on the manager and coaches. In days gone past the great managers would make the difference of 7-10 games. Today was one of them. Unfortunately it is more important to the president of baseball operations to have a compliant manager. This team won’t progress past the current malaise until leadership at the top changes. The difference between the Blues and Cardinals leadership could not be more evident. Armstrong built a championship team re tooled and is on the way again.. The current leader of the Cardinals inherited a Championship ascending team and has brought it to where we are today.
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My pens have 5 in the same amount of time. Blues have one and you think that means something. LMAO. Cards have a 11.skeezix wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 17:41 pmWinning a WS is so much easier than a Cup. Scouts, you're a jerk!scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 17:39 pmThe Blues have 1...1 Stanley Cup. Only 1.Jplantessteelcup wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 17:12 pm While where we are at is not completely on the manager and coaches. In days gone past the great managers would make the difference of 7-10 games. Today was one of them. Unfortunately it is more important to the president of baseball operations to have a compliant manager. This team won’t progress past the current malaise until leadership at the top changes. The difference between the Blues and Cardinals leadership could not be more evident. Armstrong built a championship team re tooled and is on the way again.. The current leader of the Cardinals inherited a Championship ascending team and has brought it to where we are today.
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I believe the OP is referring to the present Cardinals organization not the one before Mozeliak took control.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 18:15 pmMy pens have 5 in the same amount of time. Blues have one and you think that means something. LMAO. Cards have a 11.skeezix wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 17:41 pmWinning a WS is so much easier than a Cup. Scouts, you're a jerk!scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 17:39 pmThe Blues have 1...1 Stanley Cup. Only 1.Jplantessteelcup wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 17:12 pm While where we are at is not completely on the manager and coaches. In days gone past the great managers would make the difference of 7-10 games. Today was one of them. Unfortunately it is more important to the president of baseball operations to have a compliant manager. This team won’t progress past the current malaise until leadership at the top changes. The difference between the Blues and Cardinals leadership could not be more evident. Armstrong built a championship team re tooled and is on the way again.. The current leader of the Cardinals inherited a Championship ascending team and has brought it to where we are today.
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Re: State of decline
Blues have missed the playoffs the prior 2 years...swatski wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 18:17 pmI believe the OP is referring to the present Cardinals organization not the one before Mozeliak took control.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 18:15 pmMy pens have 5 in the same amount of time. Blues have one and you think that means something. LMAO. Cards have a 11.skeezix wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 17:41 pmWinning a WS is so much easier than a Cup. Scouts, you're a jerk!scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 17:39 pmThe Blues have 1...1 Stanley Cup. Only 1.Jplantessteelcup wrote: ↑09 Apr 2025 17:12 pm While where we are at is not completely on the manager and coaches. In days gone past the great managers would make the difference of 7-10 games. Today was one of them. Unfortunately it is more important to the president of baseball operations to have a compliant manager. This team won’t progress past the current malaise until leadership at the top changes. The difference between the Blues and Cardinals leadership could not be more evident. Armstrong built a championship team re tooled and is on the way again.. The current leader of the Cardinals inherited a Championship ascending team and has brought it to where we are today.
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Re: State of decline
Of course the Blues have only 1 cup and the Cardinals many more championships....IN THE PAST..how many has the current POB of the Cardianals won on his own? Still waiting for that answer..Proud of the Cardinal franchise in total...again the point is state of decline..Compare the two franchise leaderships now..
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Re: State of decline
Firing the incompetent 3B coach would get the team's attention and make people accountable
Unfortunately that's a word that isn't used around the ballclub anymore.
Unfortunately that's a word that isn't used around the ballclub anymore.
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The years this organization wastes……one might think that the leadership thinks they’re eternal. The inability to cut bait on a player, manager, coach is at a world class level