I like Gates but what is going on

[dianne nick]

Our roster right now is the worse in the SEC. Porter avg at best he doesn't score in the paint, 31% 3 shooter. Center we picked up from Oklahoma 1 point a game and 1 rebound. We got 3 portal picks left we better hit home runs are we are looking at 0 and 18 again. Mitchell isn't going to stay around this program if we are going to be bad. LSU picks up 4 good players, South Carolina 3 . Come on Gates we can't go through another disaster .

[hdhntr148]

totally agree. signing guys because they are from area but have done NOTHING in their career is suicide for Gates and his staff. can see taking a flier on javon as he could be end or your rotation guy but this one? Ridiculous and wonder if he thinks he has to repeat his Ofer in SEC he did before because he has little on his roster at all.

Can see it when they write his epitaph after he gets let go. roster he put together in 2025-26 season doomed him and proved the job was a level too high for him.

THIS add was stupid plain and simply unless he was here as a walk on and you can't do those anymore. Gates we hardly knew you. remember this is NOT this AD's hire or guy.

[HoopsGuruII]

The writing is on the wall.
Porral additions are just a couple of warm bodies.
Gates is pulling a Mike Anderson and headed to Florida State.

[edwin drood]

The writing is on the wall.
Porral additions are just a couple of warm bodies.
Gates is pulling a Mike Anderson and headed to Florida State.

FSU just signed Luke Loucks to a 5 year deal.

[woofy25]

The writing is on the wall.
Porral additions are just a couple of warm bodies.
Gates is pulling a Mike Anderson and headed to Florida State.

keep up pal

[Rantz]

Norweather is a practice player….no NIL deal for him, Norweather messed up out of high school. He needed to go to MM…he wasn’t and still isn’t ready for a power 5 team.

Porter is very useful…we also Picked up Mack today. We need one more ….scoring shooting guard, and one more big and we are set!

[Mizzoufan443]

Well recruiting season is hardly over. But so far things aren’t looking great. It was pretty clear by the end of the season Gates was overmatched as a coach and underperformed with the talent he had.

[Rvrartst]

Well recruiting season is hardly over. But so far things aren’t looking great. It was pretty clear by the end of the season Gates was overmatched as a coach and underperformed with the talent he had.

That's a ridiculous assertion. This past year Gates had a center who could rebound and was pretty much useless otherwise, a kid at the 4 spot who got the yips and couldn't do anything right the latter part of the season, and a shooter who went into a terrible slump. He did NOT have talent comparable to the top SEC teams. Do you honestly think that Robinson was a top point guard in the SEC? Or Perkins? Bates was good some games and disappeared in others. Mitchell did well. Of all these guys, I'd say that Mitchell and Bates would start for any team, Robinson would start on most decent teams, and Grill would see a lot of minutes. Who else would be starters on, say, Tennessee? I would argue that they overperformed in December through early February, and then regressed to the mean by the end of the season.

I just watched the Final Four and the championship. Those four teams had dudes at every position. Most of them could score, but more importantly they could all really get after it on defense. They ran much of the same offense as Mizzou, but the key to their success is that every one of them could stay with their man no matter what, which Mizzou could not for the most part. How much of that is a deficit in quickness and athleticism on Mizzou's part, and how much is on Gates for not getting them to defend better?

[Mizzoufan443]

Well recruiting season is hardly over. But so far things aren’t looking great. It was pretty clear by the end of the season Gates was overmatched as a coach and underperformed with the talent he had.

That's a ridiculous assertion. This past year Gates had a center who could rebound and was pretty much useless otherwise, a kid at the 4 spot who got the yips and couldn't do anything right the latter part of the season, and a shooter who went into a terrible slump. He did NOT have talent comparable to the top SEC teams. Do you honestly think that Robinson was a top point guard in the SEC? Or Perkins? Bates was good some games and disappeared in others. Mitchell did well. Of all these guys, I'd say that Mitchell and Bates would start for any team, Robinson would start on most decent teams, and Grill would see a lot of minutes. Who else would be starters on, say, Tennessee? I would argue that they overperformed in December through early February, and then regressed to the mean by the end of the season.

I just watched the Final Four and the championship. Those four teams had dudes at every position. Most of them could score, but more importantly they could all really get after it on defense. They ran much of the same offense as Mizzou, but the key to their success is that every one of them could stay with their man no matter what, which Mizzou could not for the most part. How much of that is a deficit in quickness and athleticism on Mizzou's part, and how much is on Gates for not getting them to defend better?

We lost six of our last eight games, including to Vanderbilt, OK, Arkansas, and Drake, where we had at a minimum comparable talent.Casually asserting that Gray was useless is the product of someone that doesn’t prioritize rebounding and instead wants a fluid, offensive minded big. Gray’s defense and rebounding was top rate but he couldn’t find a fit on this team by the end of the season. Against Drake, our team played one-on-one basketball and literally couldn’t figure out how to use our size and superior talent. That’s what I mean. And as to talent, I would include Perkins on the list of guys who would start or get big minutes on most SEC teams, the guy was a force. Plus we were deeper than most teams. We were less organized by the end of the season.

[Power74]

Well recruiting season is hardly over. But so far things aren’t looking great. It was pretty clear by the end of the season Gates was overmatched as a coach and underperformed with the talent he had.

That's a ridiculous assertion. This past year Gates had a center who could rebound and was pretty much useless otherwise, a kid at the 4 spot who got the yips and couldn't do anything right the latter part of the season, and a shooter who went into a terrible slump. He did NOT have talent comparable to the top SEC teams. Do you honestly think that Robinson was a top point guard in the SEC? Or Perkins? Bates was good some games and disappeared in others. Mitchell did well. Of all these guys, I'd say that Mitchell and Bates would start for any team, Robinson would start on most decent teams, and Grill would see a lot of minutes. Who else would be starters on, say, Tennessee? I would argue that they overperformed in December through early February, and then regressed to the mean by the end of the season.

I just watched the Final Four and the championship. Those four teams had dudes at every position. Most of them could score, but more importantly they could all really get after it on defense. They ran much of the same offense as Mizzou, but the key to their success is that every one of them could stay with their man no matter what, which Mizzou could not for the most part. How much of that is a deficit in quickness and athleticism on Mizzou's part, and how much is on Gates for not getting them to defend better?

We lost six of our last eight games, including to Vanderbilt, OK, Arkansas, and Drake, where we had at a minimum comparable talent.Casually asserting that Gray was useless is the product of someone that doesn’t prioritize rebounding and instead wants a fluid, offensive minded big. Gray’s defense and rebounding was top rate but he couldn’t find a fit on this team by the end of the season. Against Drake, our team played one-on-one basketball and literally couldn’t figure out how to use our size and superior talent. That’s what I mean. And as to talent, I would include Perkins on the list of guys who would start or get big minutes on most SEC teams, the guy was a force. Plus we were deeper than most teams. We were less organized by the end of the season.

We lost to Drake because Grill and Bates especially but everyone couldn't hit water if they fell out of a boat that night. Everything is keyed on that. Which is largely true although not completely true of the slump to end the season. Shooters have to make shots, sometimes it really is as simple as that. Yes, Gray was largely effective as a defender and a rebounder but my god, I had no idea that a 7 footer could miss a dunk or 4 inch shot in as many ways as he did down the stretch. It was at times even laughable how he found ways to shoot into the bottom of the rim or airball a layup.

[Lightning Rod]

Well recruiting season is hardly over. But so far things aren’t looking great. It was pretty clear by the end of the season Gates was overmatched as a coach and underperformed with the talent he had.

That's a ridiculous assertion. This past year Gates had a center who could rebound and was pretty much useless otherwise, a kid at the 4 spot who got the yips and couldn't do anything right the latter part of the season, and a shooter who went into a terrible slump. He did NOT have talent comparable to the top SEC teams. Do you honestly think that Robinson was a top point guard in the SEC? Or Perkins? Bates was good some games and disappeared in others. Mitchell did well. Of all these guys, I'd say that Mitchell and Bates would start for any team, Robinson would start on most decent teams, and Grill would see a lot of minutes. Who else would be starters on, say, Tennessee? I would argue that they overperformed in December through early February, and then regressed to the mean by the end of the season.

I just watched the Final Four and the championship. Those four teams had dudes at every position. Most of them could score, but more importantly they could all really get after it on defense. They ran much of the same offense as Mizzou, but the key to their success is that every one of them could stay with their man no matter what, which Mizzou could not for the most part. How much of that is a deficit in quickness and athleticism on Mizzou's part, and how much is on Gates for not getting them to defend better?

We lost six of our last eight games, including to Vanderbilt, OK, Arkansas, and Drake, where we had at a minimum comparable talent.Casually asserting that Gray was useless is the product of someone that doesn’t prioritize rebounding and instead wants a fluid, offensive minded big. Gray’s defense and rebounding was top rate but he couldn’t find a fit on this team by the end of the season. Against Drake, our team played one-on-one basketball and literally couldn’t figure out how to use our size and superior talent. That’s what I mean. And as to talent, I would include Perkins on the list of guys who would start or get big minutes on most SEC teams, the guy was a force. Plus we were deeper than most teams. We were less organized by the end of the season.

We lost to Drake because Grill and Bates especially but everyone couldn't hit water if they fell out of a boat that night. Everything is keyed on that. Which is largely true although not completely true of the slump to end the season. Shooters have to make shots, sometimes it really is as simple as that. Yes, Gray was largely effective as a defender and a rebounder but my god, I had no idea that a 7 footer could miss a dunk or 4 inch shot in as many ways as he did down the stretch. It was at times even laughable how he found ways to shoot into the bottom of the rim or airball a layup.

Gray was big and could rebound, that's it. He was a space eater but was slow, didn't jump, and was not particularly good defensively. I believe we have guys on the team NOW that can be as effective as Gray. I believe Marshall, with a bit of work over the summer, can be more effective than Gray. He needs work for sure, but has potential. Burns will play some and may be effective in spot duty, but still needs to add bulk to become dominant. It would be great if we get a proven 5 in the portal, but I'm not holding my breath. Need a big time scorer and a shutdown defender to complete this team IMHO.

[winonsports]

The writing is on the wall.
Porral additions are just a couple of warm bodies.
Gates is pulling a Mike Anderson and headed to Florida State.

FSU just signed Luke Loucks to a 5 year deal.

Believe me, you can lead some of these posters to facts, but you can't make them drink.

[HoopsGuruII]

Also, Gray could set immovable screens, but I agree that his offensive skills were severly lacking.

Grill got plain got tired. To show those last few games were not flukes, he finished second in the national three-point shooting contest; however, he had 20 points in the first round, 23 in the semi-finals, but only 15 in the final round. Once again, he just plain got tired again.

[Rvrartst]

Well recruiting season is hardly over. But so far things aren’t looking great. It was pretty clear by the end of the season Gates was overmatched as a coach and underperformed with the talent he had.

That's a ridiculous assertion. This past year Gates had a center who could rebound and was pretty much useless otherwise, a kid at the 4 spot who got the yips and couldn't do anything right the latter part of the season, and a shooter who went into a terrible slump. He did NOT have talent comparable to the top SEC teams. Do you honestly think that Robinson was a top point guard in the SEC? Or Perkins? Bates was good some games and disappeared in others. Mitchell did well. Of all these guys, I'd say that Mitchell and Bates would start for any team, Robinson would start on most decent teams, and Grill would see a lot of minutes. Who else would be starters on, say, Tennessee? I would argue that they overperformed in December through early February, and then regressed to the mean by the end of the season.

I just watched the Final Four and the championship. Those four teams had dudes at every position. Most of them could score, but more importantly they could all really get after it on defense. They ran much of the same offense as Mizzou, but the key to their success is that every one of them could stay with their man no matter what, which Mizzou could not for the most part. How much of that is a deficit in quickness and athleticism on Mizzou's part, and how much is on Gates for not getting them to defend better?

We lost six of our last eight games, including to Vanderbilt, OK, Arkansas, and Drake, where we had at a minimum comparable talent.Casually asserting that Gray was useless is the product of someone that doesn’t prioritize rebounding and instead wants a fluid, offensive minded big. Gray’s defense and rebounding was top rate but he couldn’t find a fit on this team by the end of the season. Against Drake, our team played one-on-one basketball and literally couldn’t figure out how to use our size and superior talent. That’s what I mean. And as to talent, I would include Perkins on the list of guys who would start or get big minutes on most SEC teams, the guy was a force. Plus we were deeper than most teams. We were less organized by the end of the season.

Gray was good at what he did but severely limited on offense. Do you honestly think he would start for any other SEC team this past year? He'd get minutes, as he did with SC before coming to Mizzou. Fact is that he wasn't supposed to even get the minutes he did. They were hoping Marshall was going to be farther along and that Burns could contribute some.

Perkins? He'd be a starter on teams that didn't have a better point guard. He wasn't even a starter most of the time for Mizzou because Ant was considered the better point guard. Most of the teams in the SEC this year had better starting guards than Perkins.

[straight out of st louis robert ave]

Well recruiting season is hardly over. But so far things aren’t looking great. It was pretty clear by the end of the season Gates was overmatched as a coach and underperformed with the talent he had.

That's a ridiculous assertion. This past year Gates had a center who could rebound and was pretty much useless otherwise, a kid at the 4 spot who got the yips and couldn't do anything right the latter part of the season, and a shooter who went into a terrible slump. He did NOT have talent comparable to the top SEC teams. Do you honestly think that Robinson was a top point guard in the SEC? Or Perkins? Bates was good some games and disappeared in others. Mitchell did well. Of all these guys, I'd say that Mitchell and Bates would start for any team, Robinson would start on most decent teams, and Grill would see a lot of minutes. Who else would be starters on, say, Tennessee? I would argue that they overperformed in December through early February, and then regressed to the mean by the end of the season.

I just watched the Final Four and the championship. Those four teams had dudes at every position. Most of them could score, but more importantly they could all really get after it on defense. They ran much of the same offense as Mizzou, but the key to their success is that every one of them could stay with their man no matter what, which Mizzou could not for the most part. How much of that is a deficit in quickness and athleticism on Mizzou's part, and how much is on Gates for not getting them to defend better?

We lost six of our last eight games, including to Vanderbilt, OK, Arkansas, and Drake, where we had at a minimum comparable talent.Casually asserting that Gray was useless is the product of someone that doesn’t prioritize rebounding and instead wants a fluid, offensive minded big. Gray’s defense and rebounding was top rate but he couldn’t find a fit on this team by the end of the season. Against Drake, our team played one-on-one basketball and literally couldn’t figure out how to use our size and superior talent. That’s what I mean. And as to talent, I would include Perkins on the list of guys who would start or get big minutes on most SEC teams, the guy was a force. Plus we were deeper than most teams. We were less organized by the end of the season.

Gray was good at what he did but severely limited on offense. Do you honestly think he would start for any other SEC team this past year? He'd get minutes, as he did with SC before coming to Mizzou. Fact is that he wasn't supposed to even get the minutes he did. They were hoping Marshall was going to be farther along and that Burns could contribute some.

Perkins? He'd be a starter on teams that didn't have a better point guard. He wasn't even a starter most of the time for Mizzou because Ant was considered the better point guard. Most of the teams in the SEC this year had better starting guards than Perkins.

You bring up excellent points.
I would like to comment on Gate's so called "Dream Team"
Marshall, for example, was suppose to get better as the season progressed.
The guy was too slow, too fat, has bad handles and couldn't make a basket at "point blank" range without first dribbling.
The truth is Gates so called "dream team" was underwhelming all season.
Allen looked good toward the beginning of the season but never really progressed and his offensive game was non-existent.
I don't mind Allen transferring out. The guy was a "turnover" machine just like Marshall.
Boateng was a 5 star recruit but he just wasn't ready for SEC play. He has a lot to work on in the off season.
I even wonder if he is the next guy to hit the portal.
So far, Gates recruiting in the portal is underwhelming. Mack is a good "get" but the other two are "head scratchers".
I guess Gates is counting on his "dream team" players like Boateng to improve next year. Good luck with that.
My hope is Burns and TO surprises everyone next year.

[woofy25]

Well recruiting season is hardly over. But so far things aren’t looking great. It was pretty clear by the end of the season Gates was overmatched as a coach and underperformed with the talent he had.

That's a ridiculous assertion. This past year Gates had a center who could rebound and was pretty much useless otherwise, a kid at the 4 spot who got the yips and couldn't do anything right the latter part of the season, and a shooter who went into a terrible slump. He did NOT have talent comparable to the top SEC teams. Do you honestly think that Robinson was a top point guard in the SEC? Or Perkins? Bates was good some games and disappeared in others. Mitchell did well. Of all these guys, I'd say that Mitchell and Bates would start for any team, Robinson would start on most decent teams, and Grill would see a lot of minutes. Who else would be starters on, say, Tennessee? I would argue that they overperformed in December through early February, and then regressed to the mean by the end of the season.

I just watched the Final Four and the championship. Those four teams had dudes at every position. Most of them could score, but more importantly they could all really get after it on defense. They ran much of the same offense as Mizzou, but the key to their success is that every one of them could stay with their man no matter what, which Mizzou could not for the most part. How much of that is a deficit in quickness and athleticism on Mizzou's part, and how much is on Gates for not getting them to defend better?

We lost six of our last eight games, including to Vanderbilt, OK, Arkansas, and Drake, where we had at a minimum comparable talent.Casually asserting that Gray was useless is the product of someone that doesn’t prioritize rebounding and instead wants a fluid, offensive minded big. Gray’s defense and rebounding was top rate but he couldn’t find a fit on this team by the end of the season. Against Drake, our team played one-on-one basketball and literally couldn’t figure out how to use our size and superior talent. That’s what I mean. And as to talent, I would include Perkins on the list of guys who would start or get big minutes on most SEC teams, the guy was a force. Plus we were deeper than most teams. We were less organized by the end of the season.

Gray was good at what he did but severely limited on offense. Do you honestly think he would start for any other SEC team this past year? He'd get minutes, as he did with SC before coming to Mizzou. Fact is that he wasn't supposed to even get the minutes he did. They were hoping Marshall was going to be farther along and that Burns could contribute some.

Perkins? He'd be a starter on teams that didn't have a better point guard. He wasn't even a starter most of the time for Mizzou because Ant was considered the better point guard. Most of the teams in the SEC this year had better starting guards than Perkins.

You bring up excellent points.
I would like to comment on Gate's so called "Dream Team"
Marshall, for example, was suppose to get better as the season progressed.
The guy was too slow, too fat, has bad handles and couldn't make a basket at "point blank" range without first dribbling.
The truth is Gates so called "dream team" was underwhelming all season.
Allen looked good toward the beginning of the season but never really progressed and his offensive game was non-existent.
I don't mind Allen transferring out. The guy was a "turnover" machine just like Marshall.
Boateng was a 5 star recruit but he just wasn't ready for SEC play. He has a lot to work on in the off season.
I even wonder if he is the next guy to hit the portal.
So far, Gates recruiting in the portal is underwhelming. Mack is a good "get" but the other two are "head scratchers".
I guess Gates is counting on his "dream team" players like Boateng to improve next year. Good luck with that.
My hope is Burns and TO surprises everyone next year.

The portal has been completely underwhelming so far. TO is definitely the starting PG with Robinson moving to the two. I think TO is a playmaker who is going to pass guys open a lot. Moving Ant to the two works b/c he can create his own shot, get to the line, he improved his 3pt % drastically, and has a great mid-range jumper. He's a great defensive player. He has two issues, fouls and making pressure FTs.

Trent Pierce is the guy who needs to clear his head. He has the physical tools to be a better version of Kobe Brown. He might not be an elite rebounder, although he needs to improve. Pierce's ceiling is higher than anyone else currently on the roster. If he can reach it, that changes the trajectory of this team. However, they still need a 40%+ 3pt shooter and a big who can rebound and at least force the defense to pay attention to him in the post. If they can get a big with some offensive threat, that is going to open the floor for TO to make things happen. He can create a lot of easy dunks for a big man. I'm not convinced they'll get either. Hope they do.

I don't really know what Boateng's strengths are supposed to be. I do know he is jacked and looks like he can hold up to the physicality of the SEC. Not really sure what his game is. Peyton Marshall needs to lose 50lbs. There's just no way around it. He's not playable at his current fitness/athletic level. No idea about Trent Burns either.