Carl Warwick

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I’m pretty sure Charlie Jame’s nickname was “Chop Down”. I remember so well the last 10 games of the 1964 season. I was only 10 but I kept score of every game at home and devoured the Post-Dispatch game stories. Great memories.

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Warwick was the starting RF and the battery? Ernie Broglio and Bob Uecker...Koufax a complete game shut out. 96 pitches..Game was 2:06.

That was a cool 60 year time-machine ride. Thanks for posting.

[Pink Freud]

Looking at this thread, I went to check on the opening day lineup in '64. It was in L.A.
Warwick was the starting RF and the battery? Ernie Broglio and Bob Uecker...Koufax a complete game shut out. 96 pitches..Game was 2:06.

The Cardinals' home opener on April 22, 1964 was also vs. the Dodgers, but memorable for a whole different reason: Cardinals fan/Washington U. student James Ready was stabbed to death by neighborhood thug Jasper Davis on N. Grand, a few blocks from the ballpark, as he searched for his buddies' car after the game.

[Pink Freud]

Julian Javier is the only one still alive I can think of offhand. Are there others?

Bill Whie
Dal Maxvill
Ray Washburn
And Bobby Shantz

Thanks Red. Glad to see Bill White is still alive, my Dad's fav at the time.
For being 61 years ago, it's good to have that many still with us.

I love Bill White. He is as close to a regal presence as any pro jock ever. Be sure to read his bio "Uppity", then read David Halberstam's brilliant "October 1964". Bill was in the CBS Radio booth with Jack Buck when Kirk Gibson hit his miracle 1988 WS homer. He was also a Yankees radio PBP man, president of the National League, etc.

In the Terry Cashman song "Talkin' Baseball (Cardinals edition)" he is referred to as "Billy White". Trust me, NOBODY ever called Mister White "Billy".

Bobby Shantz, all 5 ft. 6 and 140 lbs. of him, went 24-7 for the 1952 "Whiz Kids" Phillies. Curt Simmons went 14-8 with 6 shutouts for that same club that year.

[Pink Freud]

He was one of those rare birds who batted RH but threw LH - like Ryan Ludwick.

I recall Cleon Jones was, too. I never heard any reason why "throw lefty/bat righty" is so rare, kind of like brown eyes and naturally blonde hair.

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He was one of those rare birds who batted RH but threw LH - like Ryan Ludwick.

I recall Cleon Jones was, too. I never heard any reason why "throw lefty/bat righty" is so rare, kind of like brown eyes and naturally blonde hair.

Rickey Henderson is another. I have a grandson who bats right and throws left. I tried to get him to bat left when was younger, but it was totally awkward for him.

[sp25]

Julian Javier is the only one still alive I can think of offhand. Are there others?

Bill Whie
Dal Maxvill
Ray Washburn
And Bobby Shantz

Thanks Red. Glad to see Bill White is still alive, my Dad's fav at the time.
For being 61 years ago, it's good to have that many still with us.

I love Bill White. He is as close to a regal presence as any pro jock ever. Be sure to read his bio "Uppity", then read David Halberstam's brilliant "October 1964". Bill was in the CBS Radio booth with Jack Buck when Kirk Gibson hit his miracle 1988 WS homer. He was also a Yankees radio PBP man, president of the National League, etc.

In the Terry Cashman song "Talkin' Baseball (Cardinals edition)" he is referred to as "Billy White". Trust me, NOBODY ever called Mister White "Billy".

Bobby Shantz, all 5 ft. 6 and 140 lbs. of him, went 24-7 for the 1952 "Whiz Kids" Phillies. Curt Simmons went 14-8 with 6 shutouts for that same club that year.

Actually, Shantz put up those numbers for the Phil Athletics. They voted him MVP for a 4th place team.

[Pink Freud]

Actually, Shantz put up those numbers for the Phil Athletics. They voted him MVP for a 4th place team.

Shades of 20 years later, when Steve Carlton won 27 of the Phillies' 59 games, with 30 complete games and a 1.97 ERA. But...dang it, we got Rick Wise for him!

You are correct; the Philly A's were in the AL; the Phillies in the NL. Thank you for that. I was also wrong about Shantz as one of the Philly "Whiz Kids"...(Curt Simmons; reliever Jim Konstanty, and Robin Roberts, who threw thirty CGs that season)...who were Phillies.

Ironically, in that 1952 season, the Philadelphia Athletics had an outfielder named Dave Philley.

Also that season, both Philadelphia and St. Louis had NL and AL teams...until the Browns left StL for Baltimore after the 1953 season, and the A's, left for K.C. after 1954. Both teams' average home attendance in their final seasons in Philly and StL was less than 4,000.