$21.99/month for StL Today?

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charlesmastis
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Re: $21.99/month for StL Today?

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abuxb wrote: 17 Feb 2025 22:03 pm It is depressing to see what has happened to a once great newspaper.
Almost all newspapers. Are any doing good?
abuxb
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Re: $21.99/month for StL Today?

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charlesmastis wrote: 18 Feb 2025 14:51 pm
abuxb wrote: 17 Feb 2025 22:03 pm It is depressing to see what has happened to a once great newspaper.
Almost all newspapers. Are any doing good?
Other than The New York Times and The Washington Post, none are doing very well financially. But few have fallen as far as the P-D.
Punkk6
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Re: $21.99/month for StL Today?

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abuxb wrote: 18 Feb 2025 22:17 pm
charlesmastis wrote: 18 Feb 2025 14:51 pm
abuxb wrote: 17 Feb 2025 22:03 pm It is depressing to see what has happened to a once great newspaper.
Almost all newspapers. Are any doing good?
Other than The New York Times and The Washington Post, none are doing very well financially. But few have fallen as far as the P-D.

According to recent reports, The Washington Post lost around $100 million last year. This information comes from the Wall Street Journal, which stated that the losses were significant due to staff departures and a decline in readership.
Hard to get a straight answer on the NYT's. From losing a few million to losing more plus they own other publications like the Atlantic.
Clearly if most were not owned by multi millionaire very few papers would still be around
Pink Freud
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Re: $21.99/month for StL Today?

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I'm a dyed-in-the-wool superfan of newspapers, especially print editions, but in the past six months the only print editions I get are on Sunday; every other day I have strictly online subscriptions to six papers, which I can easily fly right through, and which cost much, much less. Plus, the news is always current, as opposed to the print editions which land in my driveway with two-day old "news".

What's happening with major newspapers is not their fault; it's that so many online e-aggregators are flat-out stealing the news the papers pay journalists to produce, and then on top of that the aggregators sell ads to support their thievery. The cost of producing and distributing thousands of hard-copy papers every day is prodigious; without that pay wall to prevent outright stealing, they go out of business.

Newspapers and magazines are still the best source of actual journalism. Local TV news is nothing but a visual headline service, with its stories ranked not by importance to its community, but by how compelling is each story's video. What so many people mistake for "media" is a dump truck filled with TikTok, Facebook, blogs, fake "news" sites, X, and mommy's basement blather-wince-repeat online loudmouths who never go outside because when people hear their nonsense they tell them to back to mumbling alone at the end of the corner bar.
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Re: $21.99/month for StL Today?

Post by Pink Freud »

I wouldn't mind paying this price if the forums' structure was better:

(1) If you could edit your post more than 5 minutes after posting
(2) If the Forums didn't ban you for dare mentioning the nation's most popular sport
(3) If I didn't get a "register" page after writing a long, well-researched post, obliterating it, when I had already registered, having to start all over again from memory.
(4) If the Forums had a viable forum for civilly discussing national and political matters.
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