ckdelan209
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Post subject: Re: If SOPA/PIPA pass?
Posted: 18 Jan 2012 08:35 am
It's amazing how disinterested people are in this bill in particular on a news forum. This forum would cease to exist under the restrictions of SOPA. If a single person posted a link to some blog that had posted a video from a site that was suspect of showing copyright infringed material, the whole chain goes down without the burden of proof having to be proved. Scary stuff.
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Post subject: Re: If SOPA/PIPA pass?
Posted: 18 Jan 2012 08:47 am
I kinda gave up hope for anything based on logic coming out of our representatives when they passed NDAA with no hesitation at all...
Obama even signed the thing while saying that he disagrees with certain parts.
That's like picking up a turd sandwich and telling yourself "well...the turd is going to be tough to swallow but at least it's on bread"...
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Post subject: Re: If SOPA/PIPA pass?
Posted: 18 Jan 2012 08:57 am
Giovinco wrote
I kinda gave up hope for anything based on logic coming out of our representatives when they passed NDAA with no hesitation at all...
Obama even signed the thing while saying that he disagrees with certain parts.
That's like picking up a turd sandwich and telling yourself "well...the turd is going to be tough to swallow but at least it's on bread"...
Haha, made me laugh on that one.
I can't disagree, but I also don't want to give up on it, if we all throw in the towel then nothing stops them from continueing down this awful path.
I too found it disturbing when Obama came out against NDAA, then signed it with such "hesitance". Then you have the GOP's current crown jewel Mittens, saying that he trusts himself and Obama both to not overstretch the powers granted by NDAA. What a joke, we are turning into China.
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Post subject: Re: If SOPA/PIPA pass?
Posted: 18 Jan 2012 09:23 am
I completely disagree with what SOPA is trying to do. It turns the US into China with censoring the internet. I think with awareness being raised, that it won't pass, at least in its current form.
When you have people writing legislation who don't understand technology, you get bills like SOPA. It would be easy to get around the blocking of websites by changing the DNS servers of your modem or router to something like opendns servers.
Copyright infringement is a civil matter. I'm sick and tired of the entertainment industry turning what should be a civil matter into a governmental criminal matter. The entertainment industry should spend their own money to go after file sharing sites, rather than pay off Congress to pass legislation that censors the internet.
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ckdelan209
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Post subject: Re: If SOPA/PIPA pass?
Posted: 18 Jan 2012 09:33 am
Arative wrote
I completely disagree with what SOPA is trying to do. It turns the US into China with censoring the internet. I think with awareness being raised, that it won't pass, at least in its current form.
When you have people writing legislation who don't understand technology, you get bills like SOPA. It would be easy to get around the blocking of websites by changing the DNS servers of your modem or router to something like opendns servers.
Copyright infringement is a civil matter. I'm sick and tired of the entertainment industry turning what should be a civil matter into a governmental criminal matter. The entertainment industry should spend their own money to go after file sharing sites, rather than pay off Congress to pass legislation that censors the internet.
Agreed all around, especially with who is writing the bills. The fact is, our legal system relies on lobbyists to "educate" our elected government officials on how to protect "our" interests.
Hard to turn your back on all those sweet "perks" offered by those lobbyists. I tried to explain the tech impact to my cousin, she is an IP lawyer mainly working on engineering patents. She was befuddled, didn't have a clue what a DNS was, understand routing, etc. The point here is simple, they are writing what they are told to write by people who have heavy handed interest in keeping the internet locked down for monetary gain. Not often I'll pat Google on the back, but the stance they are taking against SOPA is commendable along with some other favs such as Reddit and Wiki.
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Post subject: Re: If SOPA/PIPA pass?
Posted: 18 Jan 2012 09:59 am
ckdelan209 wrote
Arative wrote
I completely disagree with what SOPA is trying to do. It turns the US into China with censoring the internet. I think with awareness being raised, that it won't pass, at least in its current form.
When you have people writing legislation who don't understand technology, you get bills like SOPA. It would be easy to get around the blocking of websites by changing the DNS servers of your modem or router to something like opendns servers.
Copyright infringement is a civil matter. I'm sick and tired of the entertainment industry turning what should be a civil matter into a governmental criminal matter. The entertainment industry should spend their own money to go after file sharing sites, rather than pay off Congress to pass legislation that censors the internet.
Agreed all around, especially with who is writing the bills. The fact is, our legal system relies on lobbyists to "educate" our elected government officials on how to protect "our" interests.
Hard to turn your back on all those sweet "perks" offered by those lobbyists. I tried to explain the tech impact to my cousin, she is an IP lawyer mainly working on engineering patents. She was befuddled, didn't have a clue what a DNS was, understand routing, etc. The point here is simple, they are writing what they are told to write by people who have heavy handed interest in keeping the internet locked down for monetary gain. Not often I'll pat Google on the back, but the stance they are taking against SOPA is commendable along with some other favs such as Reddit and Wiki.
Google does stand to lose a lot. This bill could shut down youtube with no recourse from Google. Its a badly written bill all around.
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Post subject: Re: If SOPA/PIPA pass?
Posted: 18 Jan 2012 10:20 am
ckdelan209 wrote
It's amazing how disinterested people are in this bill in particular on a news forum. This forum would cease to exist under the restrictions of SOPA. If a single person posted a link to some blog that had posted a video from a site that was suspect of showing copyright infringed material, the whole chain goes down without the burden of proof having to be proved. Scary stuff.
No it isn't, not for me. I've been observing this dumbing down of the American public play for the past several decades, pushing them away from political involvement to 'more important' things like the next Survivor or Dancing with the Stars or who's going to win the Super Bowl/World Series/ Stanley Cup. The media has played a major role in the dumbing down of the American public.
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Post subject: Re: If SOPA/PIPA pass?
Posted: 18 Jan 2012 10:29 am
As a Reddit addict and general Internet junkie, I've been following SOPA pretty closely for a while now. Part of me appears disinterested because I keep thinking "C'mon, there's no way something this blatantly stupid can ever pass." Self-delusion, I think, may be driving a lot of what appears to be apathy over the bill.
That said, I've signed numerous petitions and emailed my Congresscritter here in MA voicing my extreme opposition to SOPA. I just don't know if it matters. Every time we make our voices heard by voting out the schmucks who displease us, our only viable choices for replacing them are schmucks who haven't displeased us quite yet.
Lewis Black said it best: "I feel that our two-party system is a bowl of s*** looking in the mirror at itself."
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Post subject: Re: If SOPA/PIPA pass?
Posted: 18 Jan 2012 11:23 am
I actually talked to my Congressman's COS (Peter Roskam) and she told me that he will be voting against it. They feel SOPA will not pass in the House.
Anyway, that's my tidbit for today.