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JR Live

Blues beat writer Jeremy Rutherford goes one-on-one with readers from 1-2 p.m. Thursday in a live chat.
Thursday, September 22, 2011 01:00 PM CDT

comments & answers

Jeremy Rutherford:
I just finished a blog, which should be posted shortly. Let's get chattin...

ztebeau1: As the season approaches, what do you believe is The Blues most glaring weakness?
Jeremy Rutherford:
I'm not saying this is a Stanley Cup contender, but I don't see a "glaring" weakness like we have in past years. They have skill among their forwards and defensemen, they have much better depth up front and Halak has a year under his belt. If I were to pick one weakness, I would maybe say depth on defense. They will have seven in STL and Ian Cole in Peoria eager for a call-up. But IF they were hit with a rash of injuries on defense, that could get complicated. But you could say that about every team in the league. I think the Blues are in good position to succeed, if players perform well.

Kris: Are you doing the "Blues Beat" radio show at Top Shooters again this season? If so, when does that begin?
Jeremy Rutherford:
Yes, the show will start Oct. 24 and be on 590 The Fan KFNS and KFNS.com every Monday (some exceptions) throughout the season from 6-7 p.m. Come over and see us at TopShooters.

CupInMyLifetime: Per your article, the sale to Chambers seems like a no-brainer. A guy willing to pay more than what the team is worth, add up to $10mil in payroll, and keep the Blues in St Louis? Every Blues fan's dream ownership situation.

Are Checketts and Towerbrooke possibly concerned about where said "cash" is coming from, or what's the deal? That's about the only thing I can think of that would hinder the sale.
Jeremy Rutherford: When things look too good to be true, you have to have some skepticism. I spoke to Chambers several times over the past few days and he is certainly eager to own a hockey team. He obviously said all of the things Blues' fans wanted to hear. But there is a lot more to getting approved as an owner in the NHL. I am not privy to his financing (where he's getting his money), inside the mind of Dave Checketts (why they're not negotiating with him) or inside the mind of Gary Bettman (whether the league would approve him). For one day, we took Chambers at his word. Now we'll see if anything develops. But I would not get overly excited about some of the things that were mentioned until more steps are taken.

CupInMyLifetime: What is the blues plan between the pipes this year? I was intrigued when Elliot was signed in the first place, as I assumed Bishop was a lock to back Halak. What kind of moves do you see taking place in the near future, as Jake Allen is also knocking at the door?
Jeremy Rutherford:
The only clear thing in the first week of camp is that Halak is the No. 1 and Allen will be in Peoria. The Blues tried to sign an established goalie in the offseason as the backup, but I'm told the guy they had their eye on went elsewhere as a starter. They decided to sign Elliott and create a competition with Bishop. So far, both Elliott and Bishop have looked pretty good in camp, with each picking up a win so far. Whoever wins the competition will back up Halak; the other will split time with Allen in Peoria. Allen has looked great in camp, but the club wants him to play more in Peoria.

Mark: JR, just how good of a shot does Grachev have to make this team out of camp? Would the Blues want to keep him as either th 13th or 14th forward or would they prefer he gets prime minutes in Peoria instead? Are there any of the top 12 he could realistically beat out for a position forcing one of the 12 with one-way contracts to the pressbox or is his only hope to make the team basically if one of the top-9 or top-12 gets injured and he fills in for a while?
Jeremy Rutherford:
I'll say this, Grachev has done as much as he can so far to make the team. He's looked pretty good. The trade and change of scenery must have lit a fire under him. Keep in mind, the Rangers have given up on a number of young players too early in the past. Having said, it may be tough to make the team. Of the four forwards in the mix for two rosters, Grachev is the lone one (to my knowledge) that doesn't have to clear waivers to go to Peoria. That works against him. I think the Blues will keep 14 forwards out of training camp. I don't think they'll send any players on one-way contracts to Peoria at the start of the season. Armstrong said they could eventually, but that won't happen until they get start badly.

Mark: JR, which players have impressed you the most so far in camp? Anyone seem to have taken a big step forward, specifically the younger players/prospects? Any big surprises in camp so far? Any disappointments?
Jeremy Rutherford:
Berglund was impressive early, McRae has been good throughout, Grachev was great in Game 1, Elliott and Bishop were good in their first preseason action ...

I don't think there have been any obvious disappointments. Nobody seems to be out of shape like we've seen in some years past. It'll be interesting to see Halak finally play tonight. There was a lot of talk about his conditioning level last year not being up to par, but I've been told this year that he worked very hard over the summer. I'll have more on that in Sunday's paper.

CuriousGeorge: JR: Thanks for the chat. With a surplus of goaltenders, do you see the Blues trading one of them? If so, who would you like to see them get?
Jeremy Rutherford:
I don't think so, not now at least. As I mentioned, either Bishop or Elliott will win the backup job and the other will go to Peoria. You need two goalies in the American League because of the travel. But if the Blues want to keep Allen playing regularly, and if a team showed interest in either Bishop or Elliott, which ever one's in Peoria, I'm sure the club would look into it. But at this point, no.

CvO: Hi JR. Thanks as always for feeding my Blues addiction.

My question comes from an argument that I got into with a friend who is a Rangers fan. Booo.
Who will be a better team this year? The hockey news had them both in the 7th spot in the respective conferences. I feel that the Blues have more depth and a better blueline. While the Rangers have a better goalie and more top end scoring. In the end, my clearly unbiased pick would be the Blues. I have a $20 bet that the Blues end the year with more points. Thoughts?
Jeremy Rutherford:
As you mentioned, the Blues and Rangers have different strengths, but overall, they're pretty comparable. I don't know who's going to be better, but if you forget about which team has what, you'd probably go with the high-end scoring and hot goalie. But it's a long season and usually depth prevails.

STLReader1012: I know the make up of Stillman's group includes Stillman, a Maritz, Jack Danforth, perhaps a Dewitt, and others. They are recognizable. Some have very deep pockets. But who is David Webster? I heard you refer to him as the money man in the group! Is he a St. Louisan? A native St. Louisan? What's he worth? What's he do?
Jeremy Rutherford:
David Webster is the president and CEO of Electrical Components International based in St. Louis. He was in the group at one time. It's unclear if he's still in.

StlBret: Hey JR, what do you think the odds of the following players being on the team in 2012? Also what is the deal with Jonas Junland is ever going to get a shot with the blues?
Tarasenko
Rattie
Allen
Jackman
Jeremy Rutherford:
In St. Louis next season?

Tarasenko: 90 percent
Rattie: 0
Allen: 40
Jackman: 75

Junland made a decision to go back to Europe for a year and now it's turned into two years. I don't think we'll see him in a Blues' uniform.

Dan: Given the rejected bid to buy the club, what are the current chances of the Blues being under new ownership by the start of the season, in your opinion?
Jeremy Rutherford:
None. The Blues might enter a purchase agreement with one of the bidders by Oct. 8, but the deal won't be finalized or approved by the NHL Board of Governors by then.

shaima: Hello JR,

There is a big buzz about this team around in St. Louis. When you talk to the players is there a buzz in the locker room as well?

Thanks.
Jeremy Rutherford:
There's always a buzz this time of year, but yeah, it's a little bigger this season. But it's not a cocky buzz ... it's a confident buzz.

Phil: JR, the 2 spare forward spots seems to almost always go to grider types so does that mean that guys like Reaves and Porter have a better chance at making the team over skilled tweeners like Grachev, McRae, Cheechoo, etc?
Jeremy Rutherford:
That's a good point, and it's entirely possible that it winds up that way, but ... the Blues say they're going to take the best players. Even though he's havin a great camp, I think McRae's time will come later. He's young and that's understandable.

But of the other four, they all bring different elements and the Blues are going to keep the players, possibly two, that have the element they need. They need a guy who can drop the gloves, so I think Reeves will be here. If Cheechoo continues to have a good camp, but the Blues feel they have enough scorers, I don't know will happen. It'll be interesting to see which direction they go.

Brian: Big fan of the chat JR.

Did the Blues make any changes to the sweater from last year? I've got a soft spot for the jersey's of the early 90's. Any word on a throwback night??

Cheers.
Jeremy Rutherford:
No changes that I'm aware of, other than they sewed a "C" on the one Backes wears. Many are hoping that they'll sew "No. 38" on the sweater as well, but still no word on that. I haven't heard about any "throwback" night yet.

CuriousGeorge: Jr: Do you see the Blues accepting any deal under $190 million or are they just trying to get Chambers to up his bid? How long can they hold off Citigroup? Doesn't the indebtedness to Citi influence the sale price? After all, interest on that debt continues to build the longer they hold out.
Jeremy Rutherford:
My two cents: The Blues are trying to get as much as they can, and they'll negotiate (or won't negotiate) any way they have to get what they feel the franchise is worth. If they or the NHL feels that Chambers isn't credible, that's a story for a different day. But if he has $167 million and can prove, which I don't know if he has, then why not sit down with him and negotiate? According to him, they said NO to $167 and followed up with no negotiations.

The $120 million loan with Citigroup is the big issue. Banks like Citigroup are known to give pro sports teams multiple extensions, but they've already given Checketts one extension and they've attempted (and some believe successfully) to sell off some of the debt at a discounted rate. How much longer before the loan goes into default. Another big issue, how long will TowerBrook let this go without a deal? When Oct. 8 comes and the Blues start making payroll and face other expenses, when will TowerBrook say "Sell to the highest bidder." You would think they've already done that, but apparently they're holding out for more, too.

Corey: Thanks for the constant Twitter updates JR.

Not to beat a dead horse but how often are the Blues and Perron in contact with one another? Just more times than not Payne or Army say something like "he's doing good last I talked to him, but no improvement."
Jeremy Rutherford:
Honestly, I haven't asked in a week or so. Blues management and coaches are just as tired of answering the question as everyone one is asking it. I am confident that when there is progress made, or he's close to skating, we will get an update. Thanks for bearing with me.

Ryan: Hey JR, thanks as always for taking out questions.

When do you think the first cuts will be?
Jeremy Rutherford:
The Blues assigned Binnington, Beach and Beukeboom (back injury) to their junior teams. We may see some similiar cuts in the next couple of days, but the big day will be Sunday, after the Blues play their stretch of 5 games in 5 days.

OpenIceHit42: Is there anyone that the Blues would have to pass through waivers if they are sent to Peoria's camp? If I'm not mistaking Peoria's camp starts on the 26th.
Jeremy Rutherford:
Many people have been asking this question recently and I don't want to give out any bad information. The waiver rules in the NHL/AHL can get complicated. So I will talk to a Blues/Peoria official in the next few days and put a list of players and their waiver status in an upcoming blog.

music4585: JR - We have heard about Grachev's fast start......how has Cheechoo looked so far in practice?

Also, do you think that anyone will really pony up for 190m to buy the club?? Thanks so much!
Jeremy Rutherford:
Cheechoo has looked good. He had a great couple of days of practice. In the first preseason, I remember seeing him get robbed of a goal on a good save. He's back in the lineup tonight, playing with Alex Steen and Jason Arnott, so he has a good opportunity to shine in that spot.

Regarding the sale, no, I do not know of a group that's going to pay $190 for the Blues.

Jon: Do you know if the Blues are planning on providing any jumbotron feeds for any of the preseason games? Also, there is supposed to be radio coverage tonight correct?
Jeremy Rutherford:
I'm not aware of games on the Jumbo-tron. Yes, the game will be on KMOX tonight and again on the 29th.

Jon: Do you think D'Agostini can produce as a top 6 forward all season long? Sounds like he's flying in the preseason, but it's the preseason. Do you think he'll find time on the 3rd line for spells even if Perron doesn't come back?
Jeremy Rutherford:
Admittedly, D'Agostini surprised me last year with his ability to play up a couple of lines. Reading the reports in Montreal when he came to St. Louis in the trade, I didn't think he had that kind of skill. But he proved it last year and he looks good in camp so far. He'll get an opportunity to start on the top line with Backes and McDonald, and then we'll see where that goes. We'll cross the Perron bridge when we get to it, but for now, it looks like D'Agostini's spot to lose.

Puck: JR,
Who holds the final say-so on accepting or rejecting bids for the Blues? If it is Towerbrook, then they must not mind holding on to the Blues for as long as the bank is willing to float a loan. Also, do you recall the price Checketts & Co. paid for the Blues? Would $167 Million cover the purchase price plus losses and interest to date?
Jeremy Rutherford:
Good question. My best answer is TowerBrook since they have the biggest investment. I don't pretend to know what TowerBrook is thinking It's been a while since I put in a call into them but more than once TowerBrook referred questions to Checketts' company, SCP Worldwide.

Obviously with the deadline on Checketts' loan extension coming Sept. 30, and no sale immiment, TowerBrook either believes another extension will happen, they are planning to help Checketts or they're not worried about it. If TowerBrook wanted out of the deal ASAP, they'd make the sale happen and take a haircut. But they seem to be sticking to their asking price.

The report when Checketts bought the Blues was that he paid $150. Those numbers can be skewed, though, when you factor in debt, etc. I think it was closer to $130-140.

Puckwatcher: JR
With regard to the 167M story this morning did Chambers approach the Post with the story, or was it that you persuade him?
Thanks for keeping fans in touch all summer!
Jeremy Rutherford:
Chambers contacted me. He was ready to talk.

stlcardsfan82: I'd like to start off by saying love your chats, I look forward to them every week. Now my question...
Jeremy Rutherford:
I deleted your question because it was identical to one earlier about Chambers and the sale. But I thought it would be silly to delete your entire comment :)

tjm7b6: Do you see the Blues making any trades in the 1st month or so of the season. Thought I read an article a little bit ago saying Armstrong is still open to moves if the right one reveals itself
Jeremy Rutherford:
It's possible, but my guess now is that the Blues don't make any moves unless the the team really flounders. They like this roster.

stlcardsfan82: You said that the Blues have depth at D. They'll carry seven. If one gets hurt and Cole is called up would he be in the lineup everyday or would he be that seventh man out?
Jeremy Rutherford:
I don't think the Blues want to call up Cole to be the 7th d-man, but that would depend how everyone is playing. If Nikitin is the 7th man, but he's been playing well, he'll slide in for an injured player. If someone is struggling and they're are injuries, Cole will get a shot. The bottom line is, the Blues hope Cole can play a stretch of games in Peoria before he comes up again.

tjm7b6: Hey JR,
Who ends with more points (G/A) between Stewart and Berglund? I think most people have high expectations for both, just curious what your predictions are. I anticipate between 60-65 pts each. Bergie with a few more goals than Stewart
Jeremy Rutherford:
I think Stewart will end up with more goals than Berglund, but Berglund will have more points.

Scott L: JR, who starts in net and which team is playing tonight?
Jeremy Rutherford:
Halak is in net tonight. The lineup is posted in the Morning Skate blog, but since you asked nicely:

McDonald-McRae-D'Agostini
Steen-Arnott-Cheechoo
Porter-Nigro-Oshie
Peluso-Tesink-Shattock

Colaiacovo-Polak
Ponich-Shattenkirk
Syvret-Shields

Meerpat: Two random questions:

1) I asked on Twitter Tuesday night, but is Anthony Peluso of any relation to Mike Peluso?

2) Maxwell House Coffers Mug Night is not on the giveaways schedule. Has it been dropped or just not on the schedule yet?

As always, thanks JR. Can't wait to see the game tonight!
Jeremy Rutherford: 1. I've read where Peluso said he was "4th or 5th cousins" with Mike Peluso.

2. Coffee Mug night is gone? That's terrible. Now I'm going to have to dig into my cabinet and pull out one of the other 74 mugs I've saved along the way.

Meerpat: I typed my question on my phone. Edit coffers to coffee if ya can!
Jeremy Rutherford:
OK

2) Maxwell House Coffee Mug Night is not on the giveaways schedule. Has it been dropped or just not on the schedule yet?

My answer stays the same, though.

IL Blues: Is Scott Nicol 100% healthy after having surgery in the off-season?
Jeremy Rutherford:
He is healthy, but he's awaiting final clearance from doctors.

IL Blues: What are your thoughts on Brian Elliot in training camp and after his first game? Would you say he has a slight edge on Bishop, or is it still too early to tell?
Jeremy Rutherford:
Elliott has looked better than I anticipated. Colaiacovo said after Tuesday's game that Elliott was very poised. I did not go to Orlando last night, so I did not get to see Bishop. I don't think either one has a distinct edge right now, but it allows happens in a competition. Someone will start to pull away and make the decision somewhat obvious.

pagethollow: JR - thanks for chatting and I enjoy your columns as well. As the sale of the team, Stillman should have information and knowledge that gives him a "leg up" on the competing buyers. His offer was for a reported $101million. In your opinion, does Stillman really know something or was his offer a "low ball" figure? I'm basing this comment with the knowledge that Forbes valued the team at $165million or thereabout. It's hard to understand how Stillman, an insider, could come up with a figure that is so far below what Checketts is supposedly asking ($190million?).
Jeremy Rutherford:
It's difficult to know what information the groups have when they are making their bids. Game Plan has to make all of the numbers available to the interested parties, so while it's been assumed that Stillman has more privy information, I don't know that that's the case.

What I've heard from many sources is that the Blues are not in good, sound financial shape and it's going to take some time to turn that around. Chambers told me yesterday (but it didn't appear in the article) that a new Blues owner would have to be prepared to lose $12-14 million per year for a couple of years once they took over the team.

So how did Stillman come up with $110-120 million as his bid? Hard to tell. But I'm guessing he didn't build his beer distributorship from the ground up by making bad business decisions.

tjm7b6: What are the odds of losing a forward to a waiver pickup by another team? That seems like such a silly rule that 29 other teams get a free shot at your player because there isn't room for him in on your NHL roster. Its similar to the Wellwood shenanigans last season.
Jeremy Rutherford:
The rule is in place to protect the players. If you're Ryan Reaves and the Blues want to send you to the minors, but the Calgary Flames will take you off waivers and keep you on their 23-man roster, you want to be in the NHL. If a team takes a Blues player off waivers, they have to keep him in the NHL. If they try to send him to their minors, the Blues have an opportunity to take him back.

What happened with Wellwood was different. The Blues were trying to put him on their NHL roster, but because he played in Europe, he had to clear waivers. That's when he got picked up. Different circumstances.

tjm7b6: Chambers had mentioned in your article that a sale midseason would hinder any opportunity to make changes for 8-9 months. Seeing as its very unlikely that this sale happens before the season starts, is it likely that it won't be til next offseason so its a smoother transition? Also, do you know what changes Chambers might have been talking about? I don't see how trades and what not couldn't be managed once the sale is final, even if it is midseason.

Also, If/When the sale isn't final before the Sept. deadline, are the Blues going to be in a Phoenix position and be taken over by the league til a sale is finalized. I would imagine they would sell much cheaper and faster if the league takes over rather than Checketts Group trying to get every penny possible of their inflated asking price
Jeremy Rutherford:
It would be easier for any ownership group to take over any team in the offseason, as opposed to December or January. Game Plan, the group running the Blues' sale, said the same thing when the team was put on the block. That's why their goal was for it to happen before the regular season. Obviously, it doesn't look like that's going to happen. As far as Chambers' comments, I believe he was referring to the structure of the organization, not trades, etc.

I don't know what will happen when the Sept. 30 deadline comes ... while there is no imminent plans for the NHL to take over the Blues, I can't rule out that possibility from happening, at least based on the information I have.

Mike C: Have you heard anything to support the alledged interest in Bryan McCabe?
Jeremy Rutherford:
I saw the report that the Blues were interested in the free-agent defenseman, but I don't believe that to be the case. They may have at one time, I don't know, but not any more.

jim: Hey JR, thank you for all that you do. Do you believe the our #41 Mr. Halak will be good enough this year to take the Bluenote to the playoffs, and possibly make it out of the first round?
Jeremy Rutherford:
He doesn't have an excuses. He's in good shape, he's seen the Western Conference and he knows what it's like to be a No. 1 goalie.

Toadstool: I notice thatyou said there was 0% chance that Rattie would play with the team next year. So I understand that he will not make this year's team either. However, I did find it interesting that he played last night and actually got some power play time. What kind of impression has he made so far in camp?
Jeremy Rutherford:
The Blues really like, but they should ... they drafted him two months ago. He's been good in camp, but he's only 18. He appears to have a bright future. Good skills, good hands, like to have the puck.

tigertime17: You answered a question earlier about the odds of players shuch as Tarasenko, Rattie, Allen, etc. being on the team in 2012. Could you handicap Jaden Schawrtz? I would be curious to read what you think about his chances.
Jeremy Rutherford: That's a tougher one. He may turn pro next year, but I don't see him in the Blues' lineup that quickly. Perhaps some time in Peoria, but then that leads to the question is he going to sign to play in Peoria when he can stay in college. Not sure how it will play out yet.

Mike C: Did you come away impressed by Chambers or did he seem 'sketchy'? Somewhere in between?
Jeremy Rutherford:
The prospective buyers sign confidentiality agreements. The fact that Chambers went on the record with details of the negotiations leads me to believe that either has strong intestinal fortitude or he's not in tune with the big picture. Either way, he is ticked about the process and he wanted to get it off his chest.

Ric: If Chambers gets the club who do you think he will target with that 8-10 million bucks? Looking at the UFA for next year only Suter intrigued me.
Jeremy Rutherford:
Chambers said that he would sign ... oh, I can't remember.

Jeremy Rutherford:
Now I'm losing my memory, so I better shut the chat down this week. As always, thanks for the preguntas ... know what that means?