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Early reaction to Obama’s Berlin speech
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Obama berlin speechThe full text of the speech – “A World That Stands As One” – can be found here. Video is here.

Personally, I think Obama has done better, both rhetorically and delivery-wise — this wasn’t his best effort. But it’s very possible that the huge hype that has been building over this speech for the past two weeks (and the fact that it was inevitably going to be compared to the legendary speeches given by JFK and Reagan at the opposite end of the same plaza) make it understandable that Obama didn’t quite live up to what might have been unrealistically high expectations.

A roundup of initial reaction to Obama’s speech:

“…His 27-minute speech at the gold-topped Victory Column was interrupted by applause at least 30 times, with occasional audience chants of “O-ba-MA!”

Billed as a speech about Transatlantic relations, it turned out to be a manifesto for the planet, with an appeal to “the burdens of global citizenship.”

Local authorities said the crowd was more than 200,000 — triple Obama’s previous record of 70,000 in Portland, Ore.

  • TNR’s Noam Scheiber: “Rhetorically, I thought it was one of the better speeches of the campaign–the exact right combination of love for America and plea for international cooperation.

[...]My only concern was the atmospherics. Every pundit I’ve heard opine on this has held up the imagery as the most valuable take-away for Obama today. I’m not so sure. In addition to looking a little too much like a mega-campaign rally for some voters’ taste….I worry that the combination of the visual and some of the rhetoric–”Tonight, I speak to you not as a candidate for President, but as a citizen–a proud citizen of the United States, and a fellow citizen of the world”–was a little too post-nationalist for the typical American swing-voter.”

“You could not watch this speech and not be moved.”

“…today JFK would be very proud of Barack Obama.  What a fabulous speech!”

Kathleen Parker: “Obama’s speech struck me as so riddled with clichés that even he was bored.  It seemed like his speechwriters went through a bunch of old speeches, pulled favorite phrases and strung them together between a few poll-approved Big Ideas. I had the weary feeling I’d been there and heard that. And Obama seemed to feel it, too.”

Amy Holmes: “Unlike JFK, Clinton, or Reagan, Obama’s purpose in Berlin was essentially self-serving. The great cause at stake was his own campaign — not the threat of Communism, or adapting to a post-Communist world. The great purpose to which Obama was asking his Berlin audience to rally was his own presidential aspirations. Pretty thin, not the stuff of history books. And so far the American public agrees. All of the hoopla leading up to this moment has been in the press — not in the polling. Obama has yet to see a Berlin bounce. Maybe the visuals will help. The text was forgettable.”

  • Huffington Post’s Frank Schaeffer: “We are watching history unfold. This life-long Republican white man is moved, humbled and changed. Tens of thousands of people who have been highly critical of our country gather to hear an American political figure. They are not burning our flag. Instead they wait, as we do, for the new day. God bless you Senator Obama. Thank you.”
  • Ann Althouse: “I’ll summarize: Come on, people now, smile on your brother, everybody get together, try to love one another, right now.”
  • Sister Toldjah: “I feel like I just ate a York Peppermint patty.”
  • WashPo’s Chris Cillizza: “The speech had clear — and intentional — echoes of what, in our mind, is the strongest element of Obama’s message: the time for change is now. “People of Berlin, people of the world, this is our moment,” Obama declared…Obama’s candidacy is fueled by the idea — unspoken but very real — that a man and a moment have met, and the result could be the fundamental alteration of not just American politics but the way in which countries see their role in the global community. “We cannot afford to be divided,” Obama warned.”
  • McCain campaign: “While Barack Obama took a premature victory lap today in the heart of Berlin, proclaiming himself a “citizen of the world,” John McCain continued to make his case to the American citizens who will decide this election. Barack Obama offered eloquent praise for this country, but the contrast is clear. John McCain has dedicated his life to serving, improving and protecting America. Barack Obama spent an afternoon talking about it.”

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  1. Garrison  July 28, 2008 at 7:23 UTC

    If Gore and the rest of us had known that Bush was going to be such a corporate miltary/oil lap dog, we would have given a better fight and contested the election to justice…Especially the 8,000+ parents of dead soldiers, and the 200,000+ wounderd who have returned home to reduced veterans benefits….Nice vote for Nader. How do you live with yourself?

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  2. LOSERS  July 28, 2008 at 6:17 UTC

    You mean people like you? Jeez dude, your post is so full of contradictions I can barely comprehend it. You say Gore should have contested the election. Then you go on and imply that he did not for the “Unity” of his country? All in the name of a “good cause”? What would that be? Landing your hated Bush on our lap? Using your own argument, you should be blaming your own man Gore for our getting Bush.

    Oh, and classy move suggesting I shouldn’t vote because I disagree with you on some political issues. I can see now why you like Groupthink Obama.

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  3. Garrison  July 28, 2008 at 3:31 UTC

    Whiners, heh… Starting to practicing the Phil Gramm style? Good move. What next, maybe a vote for Bob Barr? Gore should have made an issue of the stolen election, but just maybe, he saw a need to move on for the sake of national unity…Na, that’s too much of a “good cause” for most people to understand… including people who shouldn’t vote.

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  4. LOSERS  July 28, 2008 at 3:12 UTC

    Ugh, jeez, don’t start with that “Bwaaaah, Nader made Gore lose” bullshit. Gore won. He had more votes than Bush when the Supreme Court ordered them to stop counting. If you whiners had made such a fuss to the people who ACTUALLY stole that election, you might have a different president now. And, put this in your pipe and smoke it: If Gore had paid more attention to the issues that mattered to people who voted for Nader (myself included), he MIGHT have won them over, and then had an undeniable victory before the Bushies could foul the system up.

    Nice try.

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  5. Garrison  July 28, 2008 at 2:35 UTC

    Nader received nearly 8 million votes…You might as well have voted for dyslexic George in 2000 and 2004. You gave us Bush through the back door. Good heads-up thinking there pal.

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  6. LOSERS  July 28, 2008 at 2:05 UTC

    Hey, at least I have the guts to vote for someone with a proven track record for change, not one who prettys it up and then chickens out on it!

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  7. Garrison  July 28, 2008 at 1:52 UTC

    Negative? You’re the one who jumps Obama for the lack of foreign policy experience….Let’s see, Nader, Kucinich, and Paul…total foreign policy experience when added together…equals Obama.

    Nader..go figure.

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  8. LOSERS  July 28, 2008 at 1:01 UTC

    Way to stick your foot in your mouth. Why is it that Obama supporters assume the very hostile “you’re either with us or against us” mentality? No, I did not vote for Bush. Neither do I support him. I voted for Nader in 2000 and 2004, and am proud of it. It means I didn’t believe the crap coming from either side. I was supporting Kucinich, and then Ron Paul this year. So go keep getting angrier and angrier at things that don’t exist ;) I’m sure your pal Obama will help you out.

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  9. Garrison  July 28, 2008 at 12:29 UTC

    Loser…I’m sure you voted for Bush. What was his foreign policy experience? I mean, before he drove us into a unjustifiable war that will cost our grandchildren $2-$3 trillion.
    Oh, wait…there was that daddy sponsored “Air National Gaurd” thing that took him all the way from Texas to North Carolina. That’s were he learned to blow snot from one nostril by holding and squeezing the other.

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  10. LOSERS  July 28, 2008 at 12:15 UTC

    Awesome. Obama fabricates some “speech” in front of a historically significant spot, and this is supposed to cure his lack of foreign experience? This is more laughable than his lacking in everything else other than the immortal “hope for change”! (cause you sure won’t be getting it from him!)

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  11. Andrew  July 28, 2008 at 11:27 UTC

    He made an appearance at a grocery store too (really)

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  12. Garrison  July 28, 2008 at 8:35 UTC

    Political advantage and leverage of the media reporting McCain eating a bratwurst in front of 20 Ohioians: $6.95

    Political advantage and leverage of Obama giving the speech of his life in front of 200,000 Germans…..Priceless.

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  13. Go_Fish  July 25, 2008 at 4:12 UTC

    Brilliant. The sycophants argument goes something like this: Only people who are jealous/racist/full of hate criticize Obama.

    The shallowness of their rational for supporting him appears to be in direct proportion to the shallowness of his qualifications.

    Political science isn’t my area of expertise but even I know 20 Ohioans who can vote are worth more than 20 thousand Germans who can’t.

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  14. D. Walker  July 25, 2008 at 3:03 UTC

    Nick your statements are becoming more and more irrelvant and child like. Get control of your thoughts before you slip and say something that will totally unmask you. Its beginning to sound more and more like jealousy or is that hate that I am detecting? But, then jealousy and hate are the same things, aren’t they?

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  15. Garrison  July 25, 2008 at 2:41 UTC

    Centwist…
    More than half the crowd didn’t appear until the concert was over…I guess they thought Obama was a rock star. In the meantime, McCain drew almost 20 people at a village bar in Ohio.

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  16. Andrew  July 25, 2008 at 2:27 UTC

    It think we have 2 good candidates for once.
    There is no such thing as THE PERFECT CANDIDATE.

    I wish McCain would keep some of his Maverick spirit that he\’s always had, but as is politics he and Obama are moving toward the center.

    Wake up strictly partisan people-
    THEY ARE BOTH FLIP-FLOPPING/ERS! (the most annoying term around)

    I\’m also a bit disappointed in all the negative campaigning from McCain (not PACs but his people)

    continue grumbling everyone!

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  17. Nick Kasoff  July 25, 2008 at 2:27 UTC

    D. Walker, I know you can’t help but bow down and worship the king, and must give him all the glory in very post you make here. But let’s be serious for a minute … Obama may be stone cold chillin’, but he is certainly NOT an executive of the caliber he seeks to portray. JFK was elected to congress 14 years before he became President. Reagan, who was parodied for his lack of experience, served as governor of California for 8 years prior to becoming President. Obama has been a senator for less than three years, and has no executive experience at all. Yet because he gives a good speech, somehow he is the messiah?

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  18. RHarnack  July 25, 2008 at 1:30 UTC

    One last thought. Senator Obama does need to remember he is running for President of the US. After his grand tour, look for him to do more here where his voters are.

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  19. RHarnack  July 25, 2008 at 1:26 UTC

    Poor neo-cons. They have spent the past months criticizing Senator Obama for his “lack of experience” and “lack of international experience”.

    So now that Senator Obama is making the grand tour and listening to the various leaders any President may have to work with, and now the neo-cons are slamming him for making the trip. Particularly when he makes a speech at a location the German government chose for him.

    McCain’s people are boo-hooing that the press did not cover his grand tour in the same manner. Of course, rhetorically, Senator McCain is not the most dynamic speaker, although I do give him good marks in the “town hall” format.

    By the way, Senator Obama is not running for presdient of the world, that was a term used by the German press, which the verbally challenged neo-cons have seized upon because they could not top it.

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  20. slamfist  July 25, 2008 at 12:38 UTC

    Go-Fish; How is anyone supposed to answer that question? I’m certainly not phsycic and I doubt you are. Since the park was there before the Victory Tower I don’t think it’s dedicated to any wars. I’m not sure what the fixation with Hitler is all about but he’s been dead for over 60 years and the German people have not seen fit to move the monument so I guess they like it there. Maybe ol’ Adolf had a good eye for landscaping.

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  21. D. Walker  July 25, 2008 at 12:10 UTC

    A CENTRISTS,

    Just because Tapper works for ABC doesn’t mean he is not an Obama hater, where is the common sense here?

    Also, maybe I missing something, but please explain how what Bob has pasted helped anyone out to understand the ridiculous point that you were attempting to make?

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  22. A CENTRIST  July 25, 2008 at 10:34 UTC

    The Enron loop-hole? You asked me who was in concert before Obama’s speech and I told you to do your own research which now Bob was kind enough to help you out.
    Like I said, Tapper works for ABC – not FOX – so I don’t think he is an Obama hater and neither am I. Where did you get that impression? Why would I hate Obama?

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  23. Go_Fish  July 25, 2008 at 10:00 UTC

    Just like every other speech he’s made, I thought that it was vacuous and completely forgettable. I don’t know where people get the idea Obama’s a great orator. He isn’t. It doesn’t take much effort to speak in gauzy platitudes. If you pay attention, it’s obvious that despite all the flourish, he doesn’t say anthing meaningful at all.

    I think one the main reasons for Obama’s popularity is because we’ve become so accustomed to poor rhetorical and critical thinking skills. When someone comes along who can string together a complete, although not necessarily cogent sentence, we think they’re Demosthenes.

    Question: If a Republican candidate for president staged a campaign rally for a mass German audience in a park that celebrates Prussian military victories in wars of conquest (which just so happened to be the favorite war memorial of a certain 20th century German chancellor who shall remain unnamed), do you think it would raise an eyebrow?

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  24. slamfist  July 25, 2008 at 7:46 UTC

    Just listened to the speech. Not bad, nothing great but certainly not bad. I’m not sure I get how he is abusing the electoral process as Think states. Did y’all notice he had his flag pin on? By the way, in order to “assure a large audience” you have the free concert after the speech, not before. People tend to leave after the music if that’s all they came for. I doubt 200,000 showed up on a weekday to hear Reamonn and Patrice and stayed because, by the way, that American is here.

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  25. D. Walker  July 25, 2008 at 1:06 UTC

    A CENTRIST,

    TAPPER the reporter sounds like a McCain fan and an Obama hater, just like you, doesn’t he. By the way, what was your point in pasting this reporter’s disgruntled opinion, could you explain that to us?

    Your comment for me was left under the incorrect thread you are responding to my suggesting that you do some research on the Enron loop-hole?

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  26. Think|  July 24, 2008 at 11:47 UTC

    For someone who was going to change politics, he sure politicized the heck out of this “fact finding” trip. His party aside, I am embarassed at how a Presidential candidate is abusing our electoral process like this. It is shameful. This is the sleeziest thing I have ever seen a politican do.

    Regarding his “historic” speech. I love the part about him playing the race card. Pathetic. We don’t care if you are a Black-American.

    His global world vision is very scary for the USA. For those of you crying about the Patriot Act and how our civil liberties were being violated, just you wait until you are under UN rule.

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  27. BobZ.  July 24, 2008 at 10:48 UTC

    ++ Pop Concert for Obama Fans ++

    6:33 p.m.: The tens of thousands of Obama fans are being entertained as they await the senator. The reggae musician Patrice kicked things off, followed by the rock band Reamonn.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,567821,00.html

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  28. Star20  July 24, 2008 at 10:16 UTC

    D. Walker,

    When you say “remember the one and only true God,” do you mean the old God, or the new one; “The One” who will deliver us, who will heal the earth, slow the rise of the seas and heal the sick?

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  29. A CENTRIST  July 24, 2008 at 10:16 UTC

    This ABC reported summed up Obama pretty well, I think.
    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2008/07/24/abcs-jake-tapper-obama-thinks-hes-president-denies-media-access

    DWalker – do your own research!

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  30. Cloud no.9  July 24, 2008 at 10:08 UTC

    @ A CENTRIST

    In Europe,unlike in America, foreign political events are often times on the front page of newspapers, specially with this Presidential election. So therefore, for a majority of the crowd, this speech represented a unique chance to see him live.

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  31. D. Walker  July 24, 2008 at 9:48 UTC

    A CENTRISTS,

    The Rolling stone and the Pope have only drawn comparable crowds. Who was in concert CENTRIST?

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  32. D. Walker  July 24, 2008 at 9:37 UTC

    How worrisome that so many Americans still do not understand that this country has been manipulated into be a global country right under our noses regardless of if we like it, approve of it or not. It is what it is.

    The U.S economy is not the only economy affected by the decisions out of Washington, but the entire world’s economy.

    The world has come to despise America because of the decisions of the Bush administration and the Republicans. We are at risk of the world coming against America financially and violently.

    As sad as it is, Obama MUST rebuild America’s relationships with the WORLD. I cannot think of a better person to accomplish this very difficult task. What a blessing this country has an Obama. But, we all must get back to the point of first remember the only and only true God.

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  33. BobZ.  July 24, 2008 at 9:28 UTC

    Geez — gonna’ need a bigger bus.

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  34. Star20  July 24, 2008 at 9:15 UTC

    Geee. It must have been just like that when people heard Jesus speak. My favorite words were; “This is our time. This is our moment.” I think I’m going to cry. Sorry….. I have to pull myself together…

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  35. A CENTRIST  July 24, 2008 at 9:04 UTC

    I clearly felt that Obama was running for the world’s president and not the U.S. What wasn’t reported was that there was a free concert held beforehand to assure a large audience. Other than sounding very retread, I was happy to hear that he acknowledges that there is a global threat from terrorism and that he will continue to fight it if elected. That is if he doesn’t flip-flop on that too.

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